Monaco 2009: Post-Race Comments
#1
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:01
Anyway, Jenson just for the way he shouts on the radio after winning.
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#2
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:03
Ferrari as far as I can see had the strategy wrong again. They knew that Kimi would be pitting before the Brawns, they knew that he had the pace on hard tires. Why the heck do thy not start him on soft then?
Massa was very very very lucky not to be penalized, he clearly cut the chicane he was not supposed to cut twice, and after all the penalties and warnings handed out the past 3 days, he really should have had one after the second one, especially since he had been warned.
Good race by Alonso and Webber, I a am not quite happy with how it ended for Rosberg, he seemed much faster in the first stint, there may be an issue we will learn about.
Vettel was poor, again may have been an issue for him, but I had expected more, possible that he overdrove.
Bourdais did what he had to do, as did Fisichella this may the the closest that Force India get to a point in a dry race this season.
#3
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:04
#4
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:06
#5
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:07
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Edited by xman, 24 May 2009 - 14:08.
#6
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:09
Bourdais did what he had to do, as did Fisichella this may the the closest that Force India get to a point in a dry race this season.
Both these guys drove competently, given that they were driving fuel tankers for part of the race. Well done Bourdais and Fisichella.
I would like to know how Buemi found his nose buried deep inside Nelson's
#7
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:10
Frustrating race for Alonso. Once he finally got clean air his pace was as good as anyones bar the brawns.
Massa looked faster than Kimi in the race. Both are average to me and still behind Alonso in the wc. One of them needs to go for 2010.
Heikki is a waste of a seat. Everyone slams piquet but heikki has performed worse at mclaren imo. How many incident free races has he never had at Mclaren anyway, 1?
Good drive from webber, who once again beats vettel with superior race craft.
#8
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:10
Nice to see Ferrari able to challenge the Brawns, could've won if things had gone differently at the start.
Toyota, how can they lose pace like that?
#9
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:10
Dull race because of Rubens Bunglechello eating his tyres in the first stint.
#10
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:10
Jenson was untouchable - Rubens played his role to the perfection and Kimi almost got screwd by his team. Shame about Kova - Lewis was anonymous.
#11
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:11
Kimi said he's disappointed to only score 3rd. He knows how close was the pole yesterday and how that would have changed the race strategy
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SS in first stint would have been the right choice.Kimi is really disappointed
#12
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:12
Dull race because of Rubens Bunglechello eating his tyres in the first stint.
Button drove exceptionally well.
#13
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:13
Looks like the wc is buttons now. I thought vettel could challenge him but he makes too many mistakes and was crap this weekend.
Frustrating race for Alonso. Once he finally got clean air his pace was as good as anyones bar the brawns.
Massa looked faster than Kimi in the race. Both are average to me and still behind Alonso in the wc. One of them needs to go for 2010.
Heikki is a waste of a seat. Everyone slams piquet but heikki has performed worse at mclaren imo. How many incident free races has he never had at Mclaren anyway, 1?
Good drive from webber, who once again beats vettel with superior race craft.
Oh dear.
#14
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:13
Ferrari as far as I can see had the strategy wrong again. They knew that Kimi would be pitting before the Brawns, they knew that he had the pace on hard tires. Why the heck do thy not start him on soft then?
Huh?!
Kimi only stopped earlier because he was being hold up by Rubens and they tried to put him in clean air to try to regain the position lost at the start.
#15
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:14
There was almost no overtaking, very little 'suspense' and way too much procession.
Even the 'glamor' of Monaco failed to make it to my TV.
Great result for Brawn, excellent progress for Ferrari and a decent showing for Force India.
But really that was it - not really worth getting up at 5AM to watch.....
#16
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:14
Frustrating race for Alonso. Once he finally got clean air his pace was as good as anyones bar the brawns.
Interesting thing how both Ferraris were way faster than Alonso!
#17
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:14
As for Button - WDC! Almost in the bag.
Could turn out to be the most predictable season yet.
#18
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:15
Lewis was anonymous.
Apart from the the start and his one pitstop, the TV director didn't even bother covering Lewis. The only time he was on screen was when a car came up to lap him. A weekend to forget, but I expect Mclaren to be fighting for podium alongside Ferrari at the next race.
#19
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:15
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#20
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:16
Kimi
Massa for at least trying to pass Vettel except the team should have told him Vettal was pitting.
#21
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:16
Vettel defended good for a while with his crap tyre
Edited by Anomnader, 24 May 2009 - 14:17.
#22
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:16
#23
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:17
Nico fell back.
Alonso did well considering the car sucked.
Vettel oh dear..
edit - Rubens had the 7th fastest lap.
Edited by HoldenRT, 24 May 2009 - 14:21.
#24
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:17
#25
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:19
The race for the victory was pretty much done when Barrichello held up Raikkonen, intentional or not, giving Button a very comfortable gap. Since he was never going to challenge Button, be it because he is the (unofficial) #2 driver or because he was simply not capable made for a very boring drive to the finish at the front. Though I doubt Raikkonen would have been able to keep up with Button, it would at least have made the race more interesting to watch. I'm not too sure what Vettel was up to, but that was quite unimpressive as well. He must have had some problem with either his tyres or his car, because that was a very unexpected slow first stint.
Great work by Ferrari and Massa, Raikkonen as well, though it was a shame he couldn't hold on to 2nd at the start. Either way, they all did a good job that should allow for optimism about the rest of the season. Wouldn't be surprised to see them winning a couple of races in the coming races.
Button was flawless, surely nobody seems in a position to keep him from winning the WDC this year.
Edited by Nonesuch, 24 May 2009 - 14:21.
#26
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:20
Yet another race that could only really appeal to a die-hard F1 fan.
There was almost no overtaking, very little 'suspense' and way too much procession.
Even the 'glamor' of Monaco failed to make it to my TV.
Great result for Brawn, excellent progress for Ferrari and a decent showing for Force India.
But really that was it - not really worth getting up at 5AM to watch.....
But worth it to moan about it on an internet forum straight after the race?
This kind of contradiction never ceases to amaze me.
#27
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:20
Ferrari Webber
Alonso Rosberg Bourdais Fisi
Vettel Buemi Nakajima Kova
Toyota BMW
Edited by krapmeister, 24 May 2009 - 14:20.
#28
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:22
Button
Ferrari Webber
Alonso Rosberg Bourdais Fisi
Vettel Buemi Nakajima Kova
Toyota BMW
Bungle
#29
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:22
Button
Ferrari , getting closer and closer
#30
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:23
Apart from the the start and his one pitstop, the TV director didn't even bother covering Lewis. The only time he was on screen was when a car came up to lap him. A weekend to forget, but I expect Mclaren to be fighting for podium alongside Ferrari at the next race.
I don't see Mclaren fighting for the podium at all in Turkey, or for the next few races as a matter of fact. Brawn will be ahead, but the Red Bulls and Ferrari' won't be so far behind.
#31
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:24
Good race for Ferrari, they are on their way back but still well behind Brawn. Nice to see Kimi on the podium.
Good race for Webber but Vettel was disappointing. Didn't look like winning even before he crashed. His chances of the WDC must be gone now.
Lewis...did the best he could considering the grid position, first lap brushes with the barrier and a BMW and a strange strategy. It will make him stronger for next year.
Toyota and BMW...oh dear oh dear
Piquet, Nakajima, Kovalainen...nothing to say really...
#32
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:24
Bungle
sorry?
#33
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:25
Piquet, Nakajima, Kovalainen...nothing to say really...
Piquet???
What he did wrong according to you? Being hit by Buemi?
#34
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:26
#35
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:26
sorry?
#36
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:27
#37
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:27
WTF did PK do wrong?Piquet, Nakajima, Kovalainen...nothing to say really...
#38
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:27
I can't see what so boring really.
Valencia is the race I found to be the most tedious.
That said, I'll still watch it relentlessly.
#39
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:28
lol @ Piquet's rant about rookie drivers
He didnt?
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#40
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:28
but I expect Mclaren to be fighting for podium alongside Ferrari at the next race.
Really? Why?
#41
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:28
Ah, I see. Well I guess I should give him a then but only one...
Edited by krapmeister, 24 May 2009 - 14:29.
#42
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:28
Ferrari didnt screw up, amazing. Well, that 2nd pitstop of Kimi's was strange, he could have fought for second, but anyway, good to see Ferrari is getting closer, shame it is already too late. McLaren had a Ferrari-like weekend, their cars had pace but they lost it completely, not just the drivers, but the strategies were not the best either. I bet Toyota will look much better in Istanbul, and i mean two cars in Top 10. This circuit just didnt fit the car at all.
Edited by Cenotaph, 24 May 2009 - 14:29.
#43
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:29
#44
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:29
I don't see Mclaren fighting for the podium at all in Turkey,
No chance, their aero isnt good enough for Turkey.
#45
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:30
He didnt?
He was referring to Buemi as "the young driver"
#46
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:31
WTF did PK do wrong?
he was just sitting there lol...
Apparently he was going to finish 7th according to him...
#47
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:32
I thought Ferrari could do something against Brawn in Monaco. I really did. Judging by all factors.
Kimi was sleeping at the start. Otherwise things could have been different.
Felipe did a great fightback after losing 3-4 seconds a lap behind Vettel.
In the end, with everything that happend, 3-4 is OK I guess.
Bring on Turkey!
#48
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:32
Jenson for the way he drives the chicanes. Very smooth. He had all 4 tires outside the curb on his last lap.
wow, amazing 1 / 78
#49
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:34
he was just sitting there lol...
Apparently he was going to finish 7th according to him...
That's drivers code for 9th.
#50
Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:34
Jenson for the way he drives the chicanes. Very smooth. He had all 4 tires outside the curb on his last lap.
Kimi
Massa for at least trying to pass Vettel except the team should have told him Vettal was pitting.
Agreed. The classic example of this being Enrique Bernoldi holding up DC at Monaco for virtually the entire race in 2001. The bottom line was that Bernoldi was in front, they were racing for position, and it was DC's job to get by.