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#1 Makarias

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 12:08

Everybody except Flavio Briatore is welcome to join season three of Shareholders!

A simple mathematical adjustment due to the new F1 points system is pretty much the only change to the game from last year.

The new for 2010 F1 points system
The new F1 points system gives proportionally less points to the top five finishing positions:
<--------2009--------> <--------2010-------->
% of all Cumula- % of all Cumula-
Pos Pts points tive % Pts points tive %
1 10 25.64 25.64 25 24.75 24.75
2 8 20.51 46.15 18 17.82 42.57
3 6 15.38 61.54 15 14.85 57.43
4 5 12.82 74.36 12 11.88 69.31
5 4 10.26 84.62 10 9.90 79.21
6 3 7.69 92.31 8 7.92 87.13
7 2 5.13 97.44 6 5.94 93.07
8 1 2.56 100.00 4 3.96 97.03
9 2 1.98 99.01
10 1 0.99 100.00

The conclusion is that a larger portion of the shares are now worth placing elsewhere than on the frontrunners.
With the current uncertainties about the participation of certain teams, ie USF1, Campos and Stefan GP, extreme caution is advised regarding investment in these teams.

The text below is largely the same unintelligible bollocks as last year, except that the previous much loved factor of 25.7 has been changed to a very professional looking 9.92 due to the new points system.

Concept of the game
The players will be owning "shares" of the drivers participating in the F1 WDC!

A player will score points when a driver he/she holds an interest in scores points in a race.

Drivers are valued according to how much shares are invested in them:
-Frontrunning drivers get many shares and are expected to score often and highly, providing a steady points source but with little potential for real jackpots.
-Backmarkers get proportionally fewer shares and give a return less frequently, but when they do it they may be very rewarding as the dividends are shared by fewer shares.

Good "value for money" is investing in drivers that are undervalued, ie have disproportionally few shares invested in them compared to their actual points scoring potential.

Some pros for the game:
+ Easy entry format.
+ Editing entry for each round is optional, as the old entry carries over as it is otherwise.
+ Exciting scoring system making even backmarkers interesting for the game.
+ It is run by Makarias.

Some cons for the game:
- You initially won't know what value a driver will provide; I will however continually provide updates before the start of the season with the values for the drivers as entries (hopefully) roll in.
- As the entry rolls over from one round to the next, players need to keep track of their own share portfolios. Writing down for yourself what your current portfolio looks like is recommended, so you know what you've got.

I will provide data after each round that will help you analyze which drivers are worth investing in.

Submitting an initial entry

The first time you play this game, you shall submit an entry where you place 100 shares among the drivers, fulfilling these conditions:

* You may only hold 100 shares (or less, which doesn't help you) in total at a time.
* You can not own fractions of a share, just integer shares.
* You can place no more than 50 shares on any one driver.
* You must own shares in at least three drivers.
* You may not own shares in more than ten drivers.
* You may edit your first entry as much as you like until the edit deadline (first free practice) for the coming race.

Note that there is no limit to the number of shares available for each driver.
Also note that your initial entry is the basis for the following rounds too! You'll be allowed to change no more than 20 shares before each race, so make sure your initial entry looks at least 80% respectable...

Since nobody initially knows what the playing field looks like before the first race, I will give several updates on what the total share distribution looks like among the entries submitted so far.

Entry Example A:
Massa 37
Hamilton 22
Kovalainen 16
Webber 12
Vettel 10
Button 3

Editing your entry after the first round it takes part in
* After the first race your entry took part in, you may only change 20 of your shares at a time (for the next race).
* You do not have to edit your entry at all! If you so wish, you can leave your entry as it is from race one and not make a single change throughout the season. This is however a lazy option that won't make you ultimately competitive.
* If a driver is replaced -temporarily or permanently- during the season, the shares placed on him will automatically be transferred to the replacing driver. So you could say that the shares actually are attached to the car number.
* You may edit your changes as much as you like until the edit deadline for the coming race.
* Edit deadline for changes is the beginning of first free practice for each race.

Example B:
After the first race, the shareholder who submitted the entry in Example A realizes that Red Bull stink infinitely, and submits an edit to her entry as follows:

She decides to Sell:
Webber -10
Vettel -10

She decides to Buy:
Alonso +10
Hamilton +5
Kovalainen +5

Her new "portfolio" will after the entry look like this:
Massa 37
Hamilton 27
Kovalainen 21
Alonso 10
Button 3
Webber 2

The above change of shares can perhaps best be written like this:
Massa 37
Hamilton 27 (+5)
Kovalainen 21 (+5)
Alonso 10 (+10)
Button 3
Webber 2 (-10)
Vettel 0 (-10)

An edit doesn't have to look just like above, any way is fine as long as it's easy to understand which driver shares are to be sold and which to be bought.

NOTE: I won't automatically be posting updates on what each player's portfolio looks like, so remember to keep track of what you own!
The reason you're only allowed to change just 20 shares each round is that it adds some stability to the whole system: I hopefully won't get a nervous breakdown before every round, and the values for each driver won't move around all over the place from one round to the other. It will also force the players to think more long term with their investments.
Keep in mind that when there are shares removed from a driver, the potential return from the shares that remain will increase and vice versa. Holding many shares in a backmarker is an inefficient investment, as for each extra share you get your ownership percentage won't increase by much.

Points Scoring

*The score a player receives from a driver is calculated like this:

[DScore] = 9.92*[TShares]*[DRace]*[PDShares]/[DShares]

where
[TShares] = The total number of shares in the entire game at the moment
[DRace] = The number of points the driver in question scored in the race
[PDShares] = The number of shares the player owns in the driver
[DShares] = The total number of shares owned in the driver in question by ALL players.

In order to only mess around with integer scores, the 9.92*[TShares]/[DShares] factor will be rounded off DOWN to the nearest integer. This factor equals the amount of game points one share will give per WDC point scored by the driver in question.

*The player's total score of the round is simply the sum of the [DScore] values from all drivers.

Thanks to the 9.92 factor, and the [TShares] factor scaling scores up with the amount of players, an average total score for a round will always be around 100,000 points or 1000 points per share, regardless of the number of players. At least if there are shares owned in all points scoring drivers.

Example C:
Felipe Massa finishes 2nd in a race; there are 30 players in the game all with 100 shares each; 400 of all shares are placed on Massa. The entry in example B will then score approxrimately

9.92*3000*18*37/400 points, which with the rounding off will amount to exactly 49284 points. A good result from 37 shares. 400/3000 shares would mean a driver is valued at 13.4666... points per race, and second place obviously is better than that.

Edited by Makarias, 23 February 2010 - 12:10.


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#2 Makarias

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 12:36

I'll throw in an initial entry for me. It will change before the season starts, I bet:

Hamilton 24
Alonso 24
Schumacher 16
Webber 13
de la Rosa 8
Massa 7
Kobayashi 4
Buemi 4

#3 TheBurnout

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 13:36

Yes!

Alonso 30
Massa 25
Schumacher 25
Kobayashi 20

Just tossing this out here. Very likely to change though

#4 KWSN - DSM

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 16:06

Schumacher 15
Rosberg 15
Alonso 15
Massa 15
Hamilton 15
Button 15
Buemi 10

:cool:

#5 Apex

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 17:51

Barrichello 15
Hülkenberg 5
Alguersuari 10
Sutil 10
Hamilton 20
Schumacher 10
Petrov 5
Button 15
Liuzzi 5
Buemi 5

Edited by Apex, 11 March 2010 - 17:01.


#6 jeze

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Posted 01 March 2010 - 16:20

Alonso 22
Vettel 20
Hülkenberg 18
Liuzzi 17
Hamilton 15
Kubica 8

Edited by jeze, 05 March 2010 - 09:42.


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Posted 01 March 2010 - 20:19

Alonso		 20
Massa		  15
Hamilton	   15
Button		 10
Schumacher	 10
Rosberg		10
Vettel		 10
Webber		 10


#8 Wlleiotl

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Posted 03 March 2010 - 20:08

Buemi 20
Barrichello 20
Rosberg 20
de la Rosa 10
Liuzzi 10
Petrov 5
Alguersuari 5
Trulli 5
Kobayashi 5

#9 Makarias

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Posted 04 March 2010 - 00:22

Early stats:

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Alonso 115 16.59 315.26 60 5
Hamilton 85 12.26 233.02 81 5
Rosberg 83 11.98 227.54 83 5
Massa 77 11.11 211.09 90 5
Schumacher 66 9.52 180.93 105 4
Button 35 5.05 95.95 198 3
Buemi 34 4.91 93.21 204 3
Kobayashi 34 4.91 93.21 204 4
Liuzzi 27 3.90 74.02 257 2
Webber 23 3.32 63.05 301 2
Barrichello 20 2.89 54.83 347 1
Vettel 20 2.89 54.83 347 2
De la Rosa 18 2.60 49.35 385 2
Hülkenberg 18 2.60 49.35 385 1
Alguersuari 10 1.44 27.41 694 2
Kubica 10 1.44 27.41 694 1
Petrov 10 1.44 27.41 694 2
Sutil 10 1.44 27.41 694 1
Trulli 5 0.72 13.71 1388 1

Shareless drivers right now: The HRT and Virgin drivers and Heikki Kovalainen.

Keep the entries rolling in!


#10 fisichella_2001

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 01:08

20 - Alonso
20 - Hamilton
10 - Vettel
10 - Hulkenberg
10 - Kobayashi
10 - Massa
5 - Webber
5 - Rosberg
5 - Kubica
5 - Sutil

Edited by fisichella_2001, 05 March 2010 - 01:10.


#11 maxie

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 11:44

Massa 20
Hamilton 15
Rosberg 15
Alonso 15
Schumacher 15
Kobayashi 10
Kubica 10

#12 Brawn BGP 001

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 17:17

Massa 15
Hulkenberg 15
Button 10
de la Rosa 10
Webber 10
Schumacher 10
Hamilton 10
Alguersuari 10
Alonso 5
Barrichello 5

#13 Nustang70

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 17:34

Ah, this sounds fun. Thanks!


Webber-50
Vettel-20
Barrichello-20
Hulkenberg-5
Liuzzi-5


#14 Slick

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Posted 05 March 2010 - 23:10

Hamilton 30
Schumacher 30
Alonso 10
Massa 10
Button 10
Vettel 10


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Posted 07 March 2010 - 02:52

Hamilton 10
Alonso 10
Massa 15
Schumacher 20
Webber 15
Vettel 20
Kobayashi 5
Barrichello 5



#16 Makarias

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 17:01


DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Alonso 171 13.29 252.42 75 10
Hamilton 169 13.13 249.47 76 10
Massa 147 11.42 216.99 87 10
Schumacher 141 10.95 208.14 91 8
Webber 103 8.00 152.04 125 6
Vettel 100 7.77 147.62 128 7
Rosberg 80 6.22 118.09 161 6
Kobayashi 59 4.58 87.09 218 7
Button 55 4.27 81.19 234 5
Barrichello 50 3.88 73.81 257 4
Hülkenberg 48 3.73 70.86 268 4
Buemi 34 2.64 50.19 379 3
Kubica 33 2.56 48.71 390 4
Liuzzi 32 2.49 47.24 403 3
De la Rosa 28 2.18 41.33 460 3
Alguersuari 20 1.55 29.52 644 3
Sutil 15 1.17 22.14 859 2
Petrov 10 0.78 14.76 1289 2
Trulli 5 0.39 7.38 2579 1

Still no shares owned in Virgin, HRT or Heikki...

Note that in cases such as Wlleiotl being the only shareholder in Trulli, owning five shares is no better than owning one share, because it all amounts to a 100% share of the driver's success anyway.

If some other player gets a single share in Trulli now Wlleiotl would own 83.33% of Trulli, but if Wlleiotl scales down to one share it would be a 50/50 split of the ownership. When comparing these two scenarios it's worth noting that the extra four shares would only get you an extra 33.33% of Trulli, obviously an expected backmarker...

#17 _tr

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 18:29

Makarias - check yours shares summary - I think that there is a mistake - jeze edited his entry.
I think that Alonso should have 191 shares and Barichello 30...

#18 Makarias

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 19:59

I saw that jeze's entry had been edited. My sums seem to be right just by looking at the posts; I find 171 Alonso shares and 50 Rubinho shares.

BTW, I would prefer it if changed entries in this thread are made as new posts rather than edited several days old ones , saying that it's a changed entry. It can be easy to miss that an old post has been edited.

#19 _tr

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Posted 07 March 2010 - 21:54

I'm sorry - I had mistake in my summary

----

My entry:

Kubica 25
Webber 20
Vettel 20
Rosberg 10
Liuzzi 5
De La Rosa 5
Alguersuari 5
Sutil 5
Petrov 5

Edited by _tr, 07 March 2010 - 22:18.


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Posted 08 March 2010 - 12:56

Webber - 10
Vettel - 10
Schumi - 10
Button - 10
Barrichello - 5
Kovalainen - 5
Trulli - 5
Kubica - 5
Massa - 5
Buemi - 3
Alguersari 1
Senna 1


#21 Kooper

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 16:37

Vettel 18
Hamilton 16
Alonso 16
Schumacher 12
Massa 11
Barrichello 9
Kubica 6
Trulli 5
Sutil 5
Senna 2

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Posted 08 March 2010 - 19:05

Vettel 20
Massa 15
Kubica 15
Hulkenberg 10
Hamilton 10
Rosberg 10
Kobayashi 10
Sutil 5
Glock 3
Senna 2

Edited by Anderis, 08 March 2010 - 19:08.


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Posted 09 March 2010 - 17:38

Vettel 20
Hamilton 20
Kobayashi 20
Alguersuari 10
Sutil 10
Hulkenberg 10
de la Rosa 5
Petrov 5





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Posted 09 March 2010 - 19:51

Schumacher 15
Hamilton 15
Massa 15
Alonso 15
Kovalienan 8
Trulli 8
Kubica 8
Sutil 8
Liuzzi 8


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Posted 09 March 2010 - 23:43

Massa 25
Webber 23
Button 21
Kubica 17
de la Rosa 13
Chandhok 1

#26 Makarias

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:08

Webber - 10
Vettel - 10
Schumi - 10
Button - 10
Barrichello - 5
Kovalainen - 5
Trulli - 5
Kubica - 5
Massa - 5
Buemi - 3
Alguersari 1
Senna 1

This is an illegitimate entry, as it contains more than ten drivers.
It also has only 70 shares which isn't illegal, but extremely limiting in terms of success.

#27 Makarias

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:24

I'll change my entry in accordance with how the winds are blowing:

Button 26
Hamilton 14
Alonso 14
Webber 13
De la Rosa 11
Schumacher 11
Massa 7
Buemi 3
Di Grassi 1

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 07:29

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Hamilton 220 11.69 222.20 85 14
Massa 213 11.32 215.13 88 14
Alonso 192 10.21 193.92 98 12
Vettel 178 9.46 179.78 105 11
Schumacher 163 8.66 164.63 115 10
Webber 146 7.76 147.46 129 8
Kubica 104 5.53 105.04 181 9
Button 102 5.42 103.02 184 7
Rosberg 100 5.32 101.00 188 8
Kobayashi 85 4.52 85.85 221 8
Hülkenberg 68 3.61 68.68 277 6
Barrichello 59 3.14 59.59 319 5
De la Rosa 54 2.87 54.54 349 6
Sutil 48 2.55 48.48 392 7
Liuzzi 45 2.39 45.45 418 5
Alguersuari 35 1.86 35.35 538 5
Buemi 33 1.75 33.33 571 3
Petrov 20 1.06 20.20 942 4
Trulli 18 0.96 18.18 1047 3
Kovalainen 8 0.43 8.08 2356 1
Senna 4 0.21 4.04 4712 2
Glock 3 0.16 3.03 6282 1
Chandhok 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1
Di Grassi 1 0.05 1.01 18848 1

All the rookie team drivers now have owners. estoril85 and Anderis each are in multiple-share monopoly positions in Kovalainen and Glock respectively.

#29 Grayson

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 08:08

Button - 40
Rosberg - 15
Webber - 10
Barrichello - 10
De la Rosa - 10
Sutil - 10

Di Grassi - 2
Glock - 2
Chandock - 1

#30 wim_jtd

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 12:08

This is an illegitimate entry, as it contains more than ten drivers.
It also has only 70 shares which isn't illegal, but extremely limiting in terms of success.


Oops, didn't read the rules correctly, sorry.
New list :
Webber - 20
Vettel - 15
Schumi - 12
Button - 12
Barrichello - 10
Trulli - 7
Kubica - 10
Massa - 12
Alguersari 1
Senna 1

#31 Costaz

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 14:51

Rosberg 20
Kobayashi 20
Barrichello 20
Sutil 20
De la Rosa 20

#32 _tr

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 17:43

Only 22 entries in this moment - in last year there were 39 players (36 during first race)...
We need more people :)

#33 Makarias

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Posted 10 March 2010 - 18:34

Much better this time, wim_jtd :up:

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Massa 225 10.33 196.26 96 15
Hamilton 220 10.10 191.90 99 14
Alonso 192 8.81 167.48 113 12
Vettel 193 8.86 168.35 113 12
Schumacher 175 8.03 152.65 124 11
Webber 176 8.08 153.52 124 10
Button 154 7.07 134.33 141 9
Rosberg 135 6.20 117.76 161 10
Kubica 114 5.23 99.44 191 10
Kobayashi 105 4.82 91.59 207 9
Barrichello 99 4.55 86.36 220 8
De la Rosa 84 3.86 73.27 259 8
Sutil 78 3.58 68.04 279 9
Hülkenberg 68 3.12 59.31 320 6
Liuzzi 45 2.07 39.25 484 5
Alguersuari 36 1.65 31.40 606 6
Buemi 33 1.52 28.79 661 3
Trulli 25 1.15 21.81 872 4
Petrov 20 0.92 17.45 1091 4
Kovalainen 8 0.37 6.98 2728 1
Glock 5 0.23 4.36 4364 2
Senna 5 0.23 4.36 4364 3
Di Grassi 3 0.14 2.62 7274 2
Chandhok 2 0.09 1.74 10912 2

Keep those entries coming! If you don't participate, you're guaranteed to lose!

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 00:24

Vettel 40
Alonso 20
Rosberg 20
Hamilton 10
de la Rosa 10


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 01:14

Webber 10
Vettel 20
Rosberg 10
Barrichello 10
Kubica 10
De la Rosa 20
Sutil 20

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 01:15

Alonso - 25
Kobayashi - 25
Rosberg - 20
Kubica - 10
Vettel - 10
Glock -10

Edited by Ali_G, 11 March 2010 - 01:20.


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 02:04

[codebox]
Alonso 20
Vettle 20
Schumi 20
Webber 20
Sutil 10
Buemi 10
[/codebox]

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Edited by Crazy Canuck, 11 March 2010 - 02:05.


#38 Czesc

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:08

Rosberg 50
Kovalainen 30
Kubica 20

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 05:17

Alonso 10
Massa 10
Vettel 10
Webber 10
Hamilton 10
Button 10
Schumacher 10
Rosberg 10
Kobayashi 10
Barrichello 10

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 07:54


Massa 15
Alonso 15
Button 15
Hamilton 15
Schumacher 15
Vettel 10
Webber 10
Kubica 5

#41 Makarias

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 08:06

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Vettel 303 10.55 200.50 94 18
Alonso 282 9.82 186.61 102 17
Hamilton 255 8.88 168.74 112 17
Massa 250 8.71 165.43 115 17
Rosberg 245 8.53 162.12 117 15
Webber 226 7.87 149.55 127 14
Schumacher 220 7.66 145.58 130 14
Button 179 6.23 118.45 160 11
Kubica 159 5.54 105.21 180 14
Kobayashi 140 4.88 92.64 205 11
Barrichello 119 4.14 78.75 241 10
De la Rosa 114 3.97 75.44 252 10
Sutil 108 3.76 71.47 266 11
Hülkenberg 68 2.37 45.00 423 6
Liuzzi 45 1.57 29.78 639 5
Buemi 43 1.50 28.45 669 4
Kovalainen 38 1.32 25.15 757 2
Alguersuari 36 1.25 23.82 799 6
Trulli 25 0.87 16.54 1150 4
Petrov 20 0.70 13.23 1438 4
Glock 15 0.52 9.93 1917 3
Senna 5 0.17 3.31 5753 3
Di Grassi 3 0.10 1.99 9589 2
Chandhok 2 0.07 1.32 14384 2

Rosberg higher than Schumacher, hmmm...
Huge gap between the Renault drivers, Kubica ahead almost 8:1 over Petrov.
I dunno if Czesc is on to a winner there, but tervetuloa anyway! :)

#42 garth_b

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 09:10

Webber 15
Schumacher 10
Hamilton 15
Massa 15
Sutil 15
Kovalinen 10
Glock 10
Hulkenberg 10

#43 TheBurnout

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 12:27

New entry

Kobayashi 50
Schumacher 25
De La Rosa 10
Petrov 10
Trulli 5


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 16:47

Alonso 50
Hamilton 49
Chandhok 1

Edited by D82, 11 March 2010 - 16:49.


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Posted 11 March 2010 - 17:27

Alonso 20
Hamilton 20
Schumacher 20
Button 20
Vettel 10
Kobayashi 5
De la Rosa 5

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 17:37

Changing my entry

Hamilton 50
Alonso 45
Trulli 5

I suck royally at this game so if anyone wants to help w/ my picks, fire away! :)

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 17:52

DRIVER DShares Race Season VPP Owners
Hamilton 373 11.77 223.68 85 20
Alonso 351 11.08 210.49 90 18
Vettel 295 9.31 176.91 107 18
Rosberg 245 7.73 146.92 129 15
Webber 241 7.61 144.52 131 15
Schumacher 238 7.51 142.73 133 15
Massa 229 7.23 137.33 138 16
Button 199 6.28 119.34 159 12
Kobayashi 175 5.52 104.95 181 12
Kubica 153 4.83 91.75 207 13
De la Rosa 129 4.07 77.36 246 12
Sutil 118 3.72 70.76 269 11
Barrichello 110 3.47 65.97 288 9
Hülkenberg 78 2.46 46.78 406 7
Kovalainen 48 1.52 28.79 661 3
Liuzzi 45 1.42 26.99 705 5
Buemi 43 1.36 25.79 738 4
Alguersuari 36 1.14 21.59 881 6
Petrov 30 0.95 17.99 1058 5
Trulli 30 0.95 17.99 1058 5
Glock 25 0.79 14.99 1269 4
Chandhok 3 0.09 1.80 10581 3
Di Grassi 3 0.09 1.80 10581 2
Senna 3 0.09 1.80 10581 2

Just some thirteen hours to the deadline folks! The excitement!

#48 Kooper

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 17:56

Just some thirteen hours to the deadline folks! The excitement!


or in my case, the agony of defeat :D

#49 Makarias

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 18:04

That goes away if you buy comfortable shoes!

#50 Costaz

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Posted 11 March 2010 - 19:15

Changing my initial prediction:

Rosberg 20
Kobayashi 20-10=10
Barrichello 20-5=15
Sutil 20
De la Rosa 20
Button 0+15=15

Edited by Costaz, 11 March 2010 - 19:16.