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#1 SpeedyS

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:01

The Korean International Circuit got me interested in the development of new circuits, the design of the track, the facilities and the progress of the construction. The below pictures got me thinking where they are relative to Korea a year before the event. More available here: http://www.gpupdate....1-photos/6262// So how do you think this one will pan out??

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#2 flyer121

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:26

The Korean International Circuit got me interested in the development of new circuits, the design of the track, the facilities and the progress of the construction. The below pictures got me thinking where they are relative to Korea a year before the event. More available here: http://www.gpupdate....1-photos/6262// So how do you think this one will pan out??

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Hopefully lesson will be learnt and circuit completed well in advance.

Edited by ForeverF1, 03 November 2010 - 11:45.


#3 Fastcake

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:32

You sure thats not present day korea  ;)

But seriously, the whole situation with korea should serve as a message to India. No idea where they are in construction, but if they aren't stepping up the progress to avoid an embarrassment I'll be surprised.

#4 SRi130Brett

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:34

You wouldnt want them rushing it after what happened with the Commonwealth Games though, would you!

#5 One

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 11:40

What worries me is that there is not a guy on the scaffolding, road surface, nor in a vehicle. Must have they hit a strike?

#6 SpeedyS

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:04

I was one with the opinion that the Korean race would go ahead and finish on time, not sure if I have the same confidence here. Quote from the promoter

Mark Hughes, Vice President of the company, is confident that the facility will be ready on time for the race which will take place on 30 October (subject to circuit approval by F1 governing body the FIA). 

“As with any large scale project, there might always be the possibility of encountering difficult situations,” he explained to India’s F1Pulse.com. “However, we are doing everything possible to ensure that our project does not run into any problems. 

“We have a team of experienced professionals handling all aspects of building and operating the race track and we have the strength and the resources that are needed to execute a project like this. 

“So, we hope things will go off smoothly and we will not encounter any serious problems with the race track or with our inaugural F1 race in 2011.”


The layout, some parts look simliar to Korea?

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#7 teejay

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:04

You wouldnt want them rushing it after what happened with the Commonwealth Games though, would you!


This.

#8 Ferrari2183

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:11

I was one with the opinion that the Korean race would go ahead and finish on time, not sure if I have the same confidence here. Quote from the promoter

Mark Hughes, Vice President of the company, is confident that the facility will be ready on time for the race which will take place on 30 October (subject to circuit approval by F1 governing body the FIA). 

“As with any large scale project, there might always be the possibility of encountering difficult situations,” he explained to India’s F1Pulse.com. “However, we are doing everything possible to ensure that our project does not run into any problems. 

“We have a team of experienced professionals handling all aspects of building and operating the race track and we have the strength and the resources that are needed to execute a project like this. 

“So, we hope things will go off smoothly and we will not encounter any serious problems with the race track or with our inaugural F1 race in 2011.”


The layout, some parts look simliar to Korea?

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Reminds me of the current Nurburgring layout.

#9 King Six

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 12:17

The layout is like a modern variation of Kyalami (South Africa) if anything.

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#10 Gyan

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 15:14

This.


For the umpteenth time, the government has nothing to do with this, a private company called The Jaypee Group is behind this, and they know better than that.

#11 Risil

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 15:32

The layout is like a modern variation of Kyalami (South Africa) if anything.


The crap bits of modern Kyalami, yes. :p There's nothing to equal Sunset, Clubhouse or the Esses there. And somehow I doubt there'll be elevation changes in the Delhi circuit to match the 'Mineshaft' section. This track looks like Picasso drew it.

#12 SRi130Brett

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 15:37

For the umpteenth time, the government has nothing to do with this, a private company called The Jaypee Group is behind this, and they know better than that.


Comment was only half serious mate!! Who was in charge of CG building project though?

As for the track. Yes, people are right it similar to Kyalami. A bollocks really version of Kyalami to be more precise.

Where are the fast bends? FFS!!! Another stop/start Tilke dump.

Edited by SRi130Brett, 03 November 2010 - 15:38.


#13 rolf123

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 17:25

You sure thats not present day korea ;)

But seriously, the whole situation with korea should serve as a message to India. No idea where they are in construction, but if they aren't stepping up the progress to avoid an embarrassment I'll be surprised.


I know you're winking but you cannot compare the two.


Korea looks more advanced than the UK these days. Anyone doesn't believe me, just go there. It was behind the UK 15 years ago and now it is well ahead.

India is still held back by the caste system and huge amounts of poverty.

I am still confident the circuit will be ready though. It's high time F1 came to India. BRIC countries will dominate the world soon. It's only right that they each have a GP.

#14 Risil

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 17:44

I am still confident the circuit will be ready though. It's high time F1 came to India. BRIC countries will dominate the world soon. It's only right that they each have a GP.


Russia? Dominate the world? I'm assuming you're thinking of a different Russia?

#15 Zakiruz

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 18:04

Does anyone know when the Monsoon season is in India?

#16 Gyan

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Posted 03 November 2010 - 19:04

Does anyone know when the Monsoon season is in India?


July-August in Delhi.

#17 SKL

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 01:10

Looks about done to me... :rotfl:

#18 klyster

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Posted 04 November 2010 - 05:07

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Kubica has this one in the bag ;)

#19 Gyan

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 09:51

A BBC video on this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...siness-11686172



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#20 wj_gibson

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Posted 06 November 2010 - 09:59

BRIC countries will dominate the world soon.


No they won't.

#21 Gyan

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Posted 25 December 2010 - 07:28

Another video on how the track will look like.

Edited by Gyan, 25 December 2010 - 07:28.


#22 SpeedyS

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 02:37

http://www.gpupdate....ng-on-schedule/

#23 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 02:42

We've heard that before ...

#24 undersquare

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 22:00

http://www.gpupdate....ng-on-schedule/


They could've made it a lot more convincing with a simple photo...

#25 Mastah

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 14:13

vickychandhok Vicky Chandhok
Great to see the first layer of asphalt going down at the JPSI F1 circuit today ! Ahead of schedule ! Awaiting Charlie Whiting on the 14th!



#26 Gyan

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 16:37

Can't find any pictures at the moment. Hopefully they release some, soon.

#27 Rob

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 16:52

“It is one of the best tracks with ample opportunities to overtake,” said Boris Lazaric, chief operating officer in charge of construction of the 5.14 kilometre circuit.


Well that's jinxed it then.

#28 Dolph

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 17:32

So they changed the track. Anybody care to explain & illustrate this "We will be the first circuit in the world to have a faster corner into a shorter apex, which means we are widening three corners to create a shorter apex at Turns 3, 6, and 11 - this was put forth by the FIA through Charlie Whiting"

In particular: what is a "shorter apex"

Source:
http://www.gpupdate....age-overtaking/

Edited by Dolph, 25 February 2011 - 17:32.


#29 BRG

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 21:53

In particular: what is a "shorter apex"

Gibberish? An apex is a point, it can't be longer or shorter.

#30 johnmhinds

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 22:16

Wider corners so they spend less time on the inside of the corner?

"shrug"

#31 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 25 February 2011 - 23:30

So they changed the track. Anybody care to explain & illustrate this "We will be the first circuit in the world to have a faster corner into a shorter apex, which means we are widening three corners to create a shorter apex at Turns 3, 6, and 11 - this was put forth by the FIA through Charlie Whiting"

In particular: what is a "shorter apex"

Source:
http://www.gpupdate....age-overtaking/

I'll hazard a guess to say they are making the circuit wider to change the angle of entry into those corners. Turn three is a hairpin, turn six is the second half of a double-apex left, and turn eleven is the right hander at end of the (banked?) section that is tighter than the corners that imemdiately precede it. It's probably going to be a perception thing, with the corners looking much slower than they actually are. And the degradation of the Pirellis might alter the car's behaviour through those corners, forcing the drivers to take them slower as the grip wears off.

#32 flyer121

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Posted 26 February 2011 - 01:07

Gibberish? An apex is a point, it can't be longer or shorter.


Yeah ... in theory !

But really there is a finite length of apex on the racing line fr most corners

#33 Gyan

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 14:49

New photos.

JP Group Circuit



#34 SimMaker

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 15:03

New photos.

JP Group Circuit


To my un-trained eye, they dont look a great deal different to the shots posted in November.

#35 Gyan

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 15:33

Road starting to get laid. Grandstand and pit building starting to take shape. They were previously just a couple of pillars.

#36 Crusoe

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 15:36

When is the rainy season in India?

#37 Gyan

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 17:19

In Delhi/NCR it's from late June - early September. It might rain in October though, they sometimes continue a bit.

Edited by Gyan, 01 March 2011 - 17:20.


#38 Captain Tightpants

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 01:59

Hopefully this is actualy what the circuit will look like. I suspect the elevation is exaggerted, though.

#39 WhiteBlue

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Posted 03 March 2011 - 22:45

Source http://www.skyscrape...p...714&page=28

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The way it looks they could finish this project in three or four months.


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#40 Mastah

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Posted 09 March 2011 - 16:00

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2Kms+ of the tarmac at the JPSI Indian GP venue laid down - a full 2 months ahead of schedule ! Heading there on Friday for an inspection !



#41 Mastah

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 09:17

New pics from Karun:

http://yfrog.com/gzhireuej
http://yfrog.com/h3kzxtoj
http://yfrog.com/h2gqnjpj
http://yfrog.com/h0gkptlj
http://yfrog.com/h337bpjj
http://yfrog.com/h2diijrj
http://yfrog.com/h0raoacj
http://yfrog.com/h0hiunrj

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 13:09

New pics from Karun:

http://yfrog.com/gzhireuej
http://yfrog.com/h3kzxtoj
http://yfrog.com/h2gqnjpj
http://yfrog.com/h0gkptlj
http://yfrog.com/h337bpjj
http://yfrog.com/h2diijrj
http://yfrog.com/h0raoacj
http://yfrog.com/h0hiunrj


They look alright. I like the 3rd picture. At least there are changes in elevation. Am I right in thinking one of the corners is banked?
Hope the Indians on this project are better than the mob that couldn't get Eden Gardens ready for the start of the Cricket world cup.


#43 Gyan

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Posted 31 March 2011 - 14:14

They look alright. I like the 3rd picture. At least there are changes in elevation. Am I right in thinking one of the corners is banked?
Hope the Indians on this project are better than the mob that couldn't get Eden Gardens ready for the start of the Cricket world cup.


The "Parabolica" is said to be banked. The company building the track is Jaypee a major construction/real estate company so I have no doubts that they'll succeed in time.

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 09:38

Indian Grand Prix Will Make Overtaking Easier
25 April 2011

"Three turns out of the 16 on the racing track have been modified by German track designer Herman Tilke to provide more overtaking opportunities in what the organisers claim to be one of the fastest circuits in the world.

The top speed on the 5.14km track is pegged at a zipping 320 kmph and the overtaking opportunities will only add to the thrills.

"The width of the turn has been increased by 15-20 meters, so that 5-6 cars get the space to go past each other," said Sameer Gaur, managing director, Jaypee Sports International (JPSI) on Monday."

http://timesofindia....how/8081895.cms


#45 teejay

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 09:57

LOL 5-6 cars racing in one turn

Wont happen.

#46 Rob

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:00

LOL 5-6 cars racing in one turn

Wont happen.


Agreed. He made Sepang so wide for exactly the same reason and still it only ended up with one racing line.

#47 LucaP

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:10

what a failure...he designs a race track, and then, months later, decides to modify ot because he found overtaking is impossible....

#48 BRG

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 10:46

The top speed on the 5.14km track is pegged at a zipping 320 kmph

That's interesting. How is the top speed 'pegged'? Speed bumps, maybe?

#49 stormshadow

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 11:00

That's interesting. How is the top speed 'pegged'? Speed bumps, maybe?

Oh well by all means poke fun. Jesus! Its a stupid newspaper article!


#50 King Six

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Posted 26 April 2011 - 11:03

The track doesn't speak to me at all when looking at it, it might be a different thing in real racing but from the layout it's some very straight straights, 4/5 sharp/slow corners, nearly all identical too, three chicanes and one large radius turn which seems abit interesting (but nothing too different from say, Suzuka Spoon...or maybe abit like Turkey's turn 8)

I don't understand Tilke's fascination with ruler edged straights and chicanes. I suppose pretty much all of the older tracks in F1 would easily fail the FIA's standards if they were new tracks, so he's not really to blame. The FIA will only ever allow tracks like these, but to me the layout seems like one of the most bland in a very long time.

Edited by King Six, 26 April 2011 - 11:04.