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[Ferrari_F1_fan_2001]

The amount of armchair experts and psychologists on here with amazing levels of insight is so funny

'I knew that Schumacher was no good! I don't know why they paid him over $1,000,000,000. It's all been a HUGE conspiracy since 1991!!!!!'

Edited by Ferrari_F1_fan_2001, 28 May 2011 - 04:52.

[jannyg]

I dont think so, we all know that the one who is just behind other car, is getting all the dirty air from the one infront, that means your aero pack is compromise aswell as your capability to create downforce, also the brake suffer a lot.

Hey Lamag how comes you never post the scores when Schumacher beats Rosberg?? Normally you post a score and say nothing else matters, does that not apply when Rosberg loses????

[baddog]

Hey Lamag how comes you never post the scores when Schumacher beats Rosberg?? Normally you post a score and say nothing else matters, does that not apply when Rosberg loses????

Of course not because he was 'Actually Slower Even Though He Beat Him^TM'

[ivand911]

I start to think that Michael doesn't like new gizmo's(DRS and KERS)? Nico is guy from this era, he learn them quickly and he have better feeling where to use them. Michael can't adapt well. If you have problem with them your driving will suffer too? Because you can't focus on driving. I know Nico is engineer(he finish High school)? Real one, he is maybe most knowledgeable driver in F1 technic? He go in details where Michael can't. Nico use new simulator and he say that he can set up car there and just to fine tune on the track. This is also advantage. Michael will never be so good with simulator. He is not from this computer era guys. I think this is his biggest problem, not driving the car. If they drive his Benetton 193 or 194 ,maybe he will beat them all.
About Barcelona, again, with DRS or not, Nico didn't have much(any) chance to overtake him in first corner. Most overtakes happen in different parts of the track. Even Button was not fast enough on the main straight. Nico was doomed from the moment he get behind Michael. Michael know that very well and he drove with his own speed. But, this is part of the game. So ,stop crying.

Edited by ivand911, 28 May 2011 - 07:23.

[arknor]

nasty crash for rosberg

hope they can fix his car in time but it looks like alot of damage

[spacekid]

Yep, the Merc boys are on 1-1 for crashes these weekend, lets hope they both leave it at that!!

It reminded me of when Kimi lost it around the same bump and took out (Sutil?) as part of the same accident. Could happen to anyone. Hopefully Mercedes can get Nicos car rebuilt in time, should just be front and rear suspension rebuild and bodywork?

Meanwhile we'll see how Michaels pace goes relative to the other front runners when they get on to the quali sims.

[ivand911]

Meanwhile we'll see how Michaels pace goes relative to the other front runners when they get on to the quali sims.

Not so good for now, he is slower than Ferrari with SS tyres. Ferrari were with soft tyres. MS is only one with SS tyres for now. Michael lose time in first sector.

Edited by ivand911, 28 May 2011 - 09:41.

[spacekid]

Not so good for now, he is slower than Ferrari with SS tyres. Ferrari were with soft tyres. MS is only one with SS tyres for now.

Really? Damn. I missed that, thought Schumi had done that one softs. I'm still getting confused with these tyre markings, I wish the graphics on the TV timings had a note to say which tyres the times had been set on.

Edit - looks like Michael could be burning through sets of super softs just to get to Q2 then...

Edited by spacekid, 28 May 2011 - 09:42.

[Anssi]

It reminded me of when Kimi lost it around the same bump and took out (Sutil?) as part of the same accident.

An interesting thing about that is that he braked earlier than usual due to being more cautious as the track was a little bit damp and they were driving pretty close to each other. By braking a little bit earlier he may have started to apply the brakes just on the moment when the rear wheels were having less load on them due to the bump.

I recall Coulthard also had a crash there. His car went pretty bad.

Edited by Anssi, 28 May 2011 - 13:50.

[ivand911]

First three teams can qualify on soft tyres.

[Jon12345]

Where are you watching this? I can't find an online channel.

Edit: Found it on BBC sport. I was looking on iplayer. :S

Edited by Jon12345, 28 May 2011 - 09:46.

[spacekid]

Where are you watching this? I can't find an online channel.

Which country are you in mate? I'm in the UK and watching it live on the BBC!! We are very lucky, the coverage for F1 has been superb the last few years, we get classic races broadcast in the lead up to the race and all quali sessions broadcast live. Even the commentary on the practise sessions is superb.

Sorry not sure where this can be found on line...

Edit - Ah, just saw your edit! Cool. If you have access to freeview its on channel 301.

Edited by spacekid, 28 May 2011 - 09:48.

[baddog]

Edit - looks like Michael could be burning through sets of super softs just to get to Q2 then...

Dont be silly, Merc will be easily into Q3 if they dont stuff up.

[spacekid]

Dont be silly, Merc will be easily into Q3 if they dont stuff up.

Hmmm. Dunno. We've seen time and again a time that looks safe after 10 minutes of Q1 can end up very close to the bubble by the end of the session. I reckon Schumi might find himself being sent out for a second run at the very end of the session to cover off slower cars that went straight on to the options. I'm not saying he'll have to, I just suspect that they might end up doing it to cover off any balls ups.

I'm tending to be overly pessimistic with quali at the moment!!! Michae just set a decent enough time on the options, but his pace on the primes... not sure he's going to be comfortable if other cars do theirs on the option.

In other news, this is Monaco and I believe that the team won't get Nicos car back until after practise has ended, so they will be up against it to prepare that thing for Q1. Could be close, I hope they can update us on the damage...

Edited by spacekid, 28 May 2011 - 10:02.

[SeanValen]

I think if they can build Nico's car for the race, he'll have so many fresh tyres, he could do a mark webber who had a similar race a few races back and have a fantastic race.

All is not lost yet, some safety cars, fresh tyres, more fast laps, strategy, it could actually be a unexpected delight, you never know, Mark Webber had a storming race a little while ago with many fresh tyres/ Lets see. More fresh tyres can be as good as a grid position, but lets see how the rules, tyres play out and if overtaking can be more achieved here.

[spacekid]

I think if they can build Nico's car for the race, he'll have so many fresh tyres, he could do a mark webber who had a similar race a few races back and have a fantastic race.

All is not lost yet, some safety cars, fresh tyres, more fast laps, strategy, it could actually be a unexpected delight, you never know, Mark Webber had a storming race a little while ago with many fresh tyres/ Lets see. More fresh tyres can be as good as a grid position, but lets see how the rules, tyres play out and if overtaking can be more achieved here.

One of my all time favourite races at Monaco was 2006. After he disgraced himself in qualifying and reminded me why so many people hate him so much, Schumi then had a wonderful drive through the field from the back of the grid and reminded me why I loved him so much. With a fast enough car and the determination it can be done here.

Alonso also did a cracking job from the back of the grid last year.

I personally think Nicos car can be rebuilt, but if not we could be finding out a lot about him tomorrow. And with a lucky safety car... who knows?

[Bleu]

If Nico is not taking part in qualifying, then many teams can avoid using supersofts in Q1. Only those who may be beaten by Loti, Williams might be in that situation at least and depending how their first runs go, FI and STR probably as well.

[SpeedyS]

BBC Sport's Sarah Holt in Monte Carlo: "Orlo, I have an update on Nico Rosberg's chances of making qualifying after crashing out of final practice. The word from Mercedes is that they are doubtful his car will be ready but they are doing everything they can. Apparently, the chassis is in relatively good shape but there are complications with the rear of the car and gearbox. The team explained Rosberg was on the start of a higher fuel run when he lost the rear of the car coming out of the tunnel. There is also feverish activity in the Hispania garage after Tonio Liuzzi also crashed in practice at Ste Devote."

[Massa_f1]

We are never going to hear the end of this. When Rosberg outqualifys Schumacher.

[pRy]

I wonder what sort of thought goes through your mind when your team mate who had to sit out an entire free practice and had his car rebuilt goes and drives a lap 1 second quicker than you on his first flying lap.

[Spa95]

I wonder what sort of thought goes through your mind when your team mate who had to sit out an entire free practice and had his car rebuilt goes and drives a lap 1 second quicker than you on his first flying lap.

Probably: "Those options tyres are quite a lot faster."

Edited by Spa95, 28 May 2011 - 12:21.

[ivand911]

Probably: "Those options tyres are quite a lot faster."

[spacekid]

I wonder what sort of thought goes through your mind when your team mate who had to sit out an entire free practice and had his car rebuilt goes and drives a lap 1 second quicker than you on his first flying lap.

Nico did that lap on options. It was a great lap from Nico, but he was on options compared to Michael on primes. If you are watching the BBC they are choosing to ignore that fact.

Michael was faster on his option run but lost 0.5s in the final sector, either due to being held up or backing off a bit.

Its getting really frustrating now how the facts are being twisted to make Nico look faster all the time. Sure, he is often faster but saying that his option run being faster than Michaels prime run is such a big deal is the wrong stick to be beating Michael with.

[ClubmanGT]

The stupid thing about this is that everyone is ignoring that Schumacher also had a massive crash this weekend too and missed out on running time.

[pRy]

Rosbergs first lap was on the primes.

[Massa_f1]

Nico did that lap on options. It was a great lap from Nico, but he was on options compared to Michael on primes. If you are watching the BBC they are choosing to ignore that fact.

Michael was faster on his option run but lost 0.5s in the final sector, either due to being held up or backing off a bit.

Its getting really frustrating now how the facts are being twisted to make Nico look faster all the time. Sure, he is often faster but saying that his option run being faster than Michaels prime run is such a big deal is the wrong stick to be beating Michael with.

Indeed they were having ago at Schumacher for using options but the majorty of the field did.

[Massa_f1]

Rosbergs first lap was on the primes.

It was not.

[pRy]

Nico did that lap on options. It was a great lap from Nico, but he was on options compared to Michael on primes. If you are watching the BBC they are choosing to ignore that fact.

Well Brundle just said at 13:26 that Rosbergs first run was on primes, 2nd run on options. Rosbergs first lap was 1 second quicker than Schumacher at that point.

[spacekid]

Rosbergs first lap was on the primes.

No it wasn't.

[pRy]

From AS Live:

12 min: Rosberg put in that effort on soft tyres - a solid start to qualifying, having lost all the final session this morning with that accident at the chicane.

[spacekid]

Well Brundle just said at 13:26 that Rosbergs first run was on primes, 2nd run on options. Rosbergs first lap was 1 second quicker than Schumacher at that point.

He was wrong. I was watching. Both of Nicos runs were on options. Yes he was quicker. On options.

[Massa_f1]

Well Brundle just said at 13:26 that Rosbergs first run was on primes, 2nd run on options. Rosbergs first lap was 1 second quicker than Schumacher at that point.

Brundle was wrong though.

[pRy]

Ok so BBC, Brundle and Autosport are all wrong?

[Spa95]

Well Brundle just said at 13:26 that Rosbergs first run was on primes, 2nd run on options. Rosbergs first lap was 1 second quicker than Schumacher at that point.

Martin also blabbered on about the Hispanias blocking the Torro Rosso (Both HRT weren't even on the track).

From AS Live:

Autosport fail.

[Spa95]

Ok so BBC, Brundle and Autosport are all wrong?

Yes!

[spacekid]

Ok so BBC, Brundle and Autosport are all wrong?

Yep.

[Richardc]

I don't think MSC has it in their this for monaco this year.

[Massa_f1]

Ok so BBC, Brundle and Autosport are all wrong?

Yes I saw Rosberg leave the pits in q1 with the red marking. So yes there all wrong.

[spacekid]

Michael is wasting his supersofts in these sessions, he's goona be cr*p come Q3.

[pRy]

Fair enough. Formula 1 does say Schumacher joined Rosberg on the same tyres so it appears he was on the faster tyres.

[Spa95]

Michael is wasting his supersofts in these sessions, he's goona be cr*p come Q3.

Rosberg is wasting them too...

Kravitz: "MICHAEL SCHUMACHER IS BURNING TROUGH HIS OPTIONS TYRES, HE GOES OUT ON A FRESH SET!!!!.....meanwhile Rosberg joins him also on a new set of SS."

Edited by Spa95, 28 May 2011 - 12:42.

[Richardc]

I can't see how MSC will step up a level and go even as fast as that that q2 lap, shame. PROVE ME WRONG.

[spacekid]

Rosberg is wasting them too...

Kravitz: "MICHAEL SCHUMACHER IS BURNING TROUGH HIS OPTIONS TYRES, HE GOES OUT ON A FRESH SET!!!!.....meanwhile Rosberg joins him also on a new set of SS."

Yeah the BBC are really getting on my nerves with this today. Now we'll hear Eddie Jordan banging on about it again. Then everyone will jump on to the board and say 'Schumi should retire' because Nico is a second faster. Completely ignoring the facts.

All of that said, Nico is a shade faster so far, I have no problem saying that. Its just the lies and exageration that winds me up.

Also... both Mercs looking pretty slow. I think qualifing and starting on primes could be an interesting strategy here. Lets see.

[arknor]

I don't think MSC has it in their this for monaco this year.

lolwut ?

[spacekid]

I can't see how MSC will step up a level and go even as fast as that that q2 lap, shame. PROVE ME WRONG.

Its difficult to know if he has been reusing options or has no fresh sets left. I think he'll be qualifying 9th or 10th here.

[malibu]

Hi all. I am in the circuit right now. Clearly rosberg is the leader. He missed FP3
All his fast laps in Q1 and Q2 were with heavy traffic. And still he managed to be faster.

[SpeedyS]

MS getting killed in S2

[arknor]

MS getting killed in S2

was it the butler with a steel pipe?

[differential]

The old dog still has it.

[ivand911]

was it the butler with a steel pipe?