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[Makarias]

I hereby welcome you all to submit entries for the 12th season of PTPC! This season we have a massive 2020 1919 points to place! The Bahrain GP remains uncertain, but let's just assume that it goes ahead as not planned!

This is what you do:
Post a reply here with your guess on how the WDC final standings of this year will look; there are 1919 (19*101)points to be distributed.
Points are assigned to specific drivers, not "the second Ferrari seat" or anything like that (meaning that points placed on one driver aren't transferred to his replacement should a driver change happen).
You can edit your entry as much as you like until the deadline, which is at the start of the first free practice of the first GP of this season.
Using a spreadsheet to get the points sum right is really helpful, your initial points allocation is likely to add up to much more due to the widespread preseason optimism syndrome.

This is how points are scored:
For each point over 1919 that you distribute, you'll be penalized one point. You gain one point in the competition for each F1-championship point that you've placed right, which means:
-If a driver has a higher final WDC score than the amount of points you've placed on him, you'll get as many points from this driver as you've placed on him.
-If the driver scores less than you've trusted him to do, you'll only get as many points as he has managed to score.

An example: if players A and B have placed 130 and 150 points respectively on Button and Button scores 134 points in the WDC, the players will score 130 and 134 points respectively for Button. Player A would then on the other hand have placed twenty more points than player B on other drivers, where they may have come to better use.

The competition is open for entries until first free practice starts at Melbourne.

This is my preliminary prediction, which may change before the season start:

Driver Points
Vettel 289
Alonso 282
Webber 232
Hamilton 188
Rosberg 176
Button 161
Massa 158
Schumacher 155
Heidfeld 106
Barrichello 62
Kobayashi 44
Petrov 42
Buemi 24
Alguersuari 22
Maldonado 17
Sutil 17
Perez 16
di Resta 11
Kovalainen 11
Trulli 7
d'Ambrosio 0
Glock 0
Karthikeyan 0
Kubica 0
Liuzzi 0

If you think a driver will score zero points, you don't have to put him in your list.

If you think some driver will come in as a replacement during the season and score points, feel free to place points on that driver too. An example would be Kubica returning to replace Heidfeld!

Good luck!

Edited by Makarias, 17 March 2011 - 11:26.

[Makarias]

Out of curiosity: My first rough entry draft had 2130 points in it! Feel free to report how much yours had!

[scheivlak]

Out of curiosity: My first rough entry draft had 2130 points in it! Feel free to report how much yours had!

As a Bets&Games addict I already did a try-out before you started the thread and I ended up with something like 1973 - because I expected a 19 race season.
And to be honest I still kind of expect this to be a 19 race season, because of the deadline connected to the Bahrain GP http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/89954

[KWSN - DSM]

I do not think there will be a race in Bahrain either, can you please confirm how our predictions will be adjusted once that happens?

[Makarias]

My initial thought was that I'd take 2020 points guesses regardless of what may happen, but since
1)The situation in Bahrain doesn't look like it's improving and
2)I'm the only one with a guess entered yet
I suppose I might as well take 1919 point entries instead unless anyone objects to this within the next eight hours.
I can of couse easily change my own guess, so no problem there.

So, eight hours (until 8pm Swedish Empire time) for anyone to object to a 1919 point entry instead of 2020. Speak up now or remain quiet forever (on this issue, not other stuff such as freedom of speech of course)!

[Makarias]

Oh screw it, who wants to wait! Make your entries 1919 points, everyone!

[KWSN - DSM]

Oh screw it, who wants to wait! Make your entries 1919 points, everyone!

Doing mine later tonight snella (seppling)

[mark f1]

Vettel 265
Alonso 235
Webber 219
Hamilton 195
Massa 185
Button 175
Rosberg 165
Schumacher 155
Heidfeld 120
Barrichello 75
Kobayashi 25
Sutil 20
Buemi 20
Alguarsuari 20
Petrov 20
Maldanado 10
Di Resta 10
Perez 5

[Apex]

Vettel 280
Alonso 235
Webber 225
Hamilton 185
Rosberg 175
Massa 160
Button 135
Heidfeld 95
Schumacher 90
Barrichello 70
Alguersuari 50
Buemi 40
Kobayashi 40
Sutil 35
Maldonado 30
Petrov 25
Perez 20
di Resta 15
Kovalainen 10
Trulli 4

[noikeee]

<edited, see post #38>

My first guess had 2068 points total...

Edited by paranoik0, 24 March 2011 - 23:47.

[KWSN - DSM]

Posting new guess

Edited by KWSN - DSM, 18 March 2011 - 13:17.

[noikeee]

Forgot Sutil?

[KWSN - DSM]

Schumacher 225
Alonso 224
Vettel 223
Massa 200
Webber 195
Rosberg 194
Heidfeld 116
Alguarsauri 85
Buemi 84
Petrov 83
Hamilton 84
Button 81
Kobayashi 40
Barichello 39
Maldonado 13
Perez 12
Kovalainen 3
Sutil 4
Di Resta 2
Liuzzi 2
Trulli 2
Glock 2
Ambrosio 2
Kartakeneyan 2
Liuzzu 2

[scheivlak]

Vettel 280
Alonso 278
Webber 215
Hamilton 175
Massa 173
Rosberg 130
Button 125
Heidfeld 122
Schumacher 103
Barrichello 72
Petrov 54
Kobayashi 49
Alguersuari 35
Perez 24
Buemi 19
Maldonado 16
Ricciardo 15
Sutil 15
Di Resta 14
Kovalainen 3
Trulli 2

Edited by scheivlak, 24 March 2011 - 22:28.

[Makarias]

My entry, take 2:

Vettel 272
Alonso 265
Webber 208
Hamilton 177
Rosberg 175
Button 158
Schumacher 155
Massa 147
Heidfeld 106
Barrichello 59
Kobayashi 44
Petrov 42
Buemi 23
Alguersuari 21
Sutil 17
Perez 15
Maldonado 13
di Resta 11
Kovalainen 7
Trulli 4
d'Ambrosio 0
Glock 0
Karthikeyan 0
Kubica 0
Liuzzi 0

[Makarias]

Everything looks OK so far; KWSN -DSM has 2+2 points on Liuzzi+Liuzzu in two lines which makes it all add up correctly; brave guess though!

[Estwald]

Vettel 243
Alonso 240
Webber 210
Schumacher 210
Massa 193
Rosberg 188
Hamilton 113
Heidfeld 110
Button 80
Barrichello 80
Petrov 68
Maldonado 44
Kobayashi 43
Buemi 31
Alguersuari 25
Perez 20
Sutil 15
diResta 6

[KWSN - DSM]

Everything looks OK so far; KWSN -DSM has 2+2 points on Liuzzi+Liuzzu in two lines which makes it all add up correctly; brave guess though!

You are going to take that as a correct guess on Liuzzi right?

[Makarias]

You are going to take that as a correct guess on Liuzzi right?

right

[jeze]

Alonso 289
Vettel 278
Webber 221
Hamilton 209
Massa 171
Heidfeld 152
Button 145
Rosberg 100
Petrov 65
Kobayashi 55
Schumacher 54
Pérez 40
Barrichello 33
Sutil 29
Maldonado 21
Di Resta 20
Alguersuari 18
Buemi 14
Kovalainen 4
Trulli 1

[Costaz]

Vettel 336
Alonso 305
Webber 226
Hamilton 201
Massa 168
Button 150
Rosberg 126
Schumacher 101
Heidfeld 74
Barrichello 52
Kobayashi 40
Buemi 37
Petrov 33
Alguersuari 20
Maldonado 17
Sutil 16
Perez 7
di Resta 7
Senna 3


My first guess was 1869, then I worked my way upwards to reach the target.

Good luck all! I worked hard to keep my crown

[fisichella_2001]

Vettel - 266
Alonso - 246
Webber - 221
Hamilton - 209
Massa - 184
Button - 182
Rosberg - 154
Schumacher - 121
Heidfeld - 96
Barrichello - 60
Kobayashi - 47
Petrov - 38
Sutil - 29
Maldonado - 22
Perez - 12
Alguersuari - 11
di Resta - 10
Buemi - 8
Kovalainen - 2
Trulli - 1

[skylark68]

Vettel 268
Alonso 249
Webber 220
Hamilton 205
Button 177
Massa 170
Rosberg 145
Schumacher 136
Heidfeld 100
Barrichello 58
Kobayashi 44
Sutil 33
Buemi 26
Petrov 25
Alguersuari 20
Perez 15
Kovalainen 12
Moladonado 12
Trulli 4
diResta 0
Karthikeyan 0
Liuzzi 0
Glock 0
d'Ambtosio 0



1919

[Wlleiotl]

Vettel 250
Alonso 200
Webber 200
Massa 180
Rosberg 150
Heidfeld 150
Schumacher 120
Hamilton 100
Barrichello 100
Button 80
Kobayashi 80
Petrov 70
Buemi 60
Maldonado 60
Alguersuari 50
Perez 50
Sutil 10
di Resta 5
Kovalainen 2
Trulli 2

[Anderis]

Vettel 279
Alonso 259
Webber 234
Massa 194
Rosberg 144
Schumacher 139
Hamilton 129
Heidfeld 129
Button 93
Barrichello 79
Alguersuari 44
Kobayashi 39
Buemi 34
Petrov 31
Maldonado 29
Perez 19
Sutil 15
Ricciardo 14
di Resta 5
Kovalainen 5
Trulli 5

[arcsine]

Vettel - 318
Alonso - 242
Webber - 231
Massa - 194
Hamilton - 131
Rosberg - 125
Button - 121
Heidfeld - 110
Schumacher - 101
Barrichello - 73
Kobayashi - 51
Petrov - 43
Perez - 38
Maldonado - 35
Alguersuari - 25
Sutil - 22
Buemi - 20
di Resta - 16
Kubica - 10
Kovalainen - 9
Trulli - 3
Glock - 1

[Viceroy]

Vettel 267
Alonso 251
Webber 230
Hamilton 196
Massa 186
Button 168
Rosberg 167
Schumacher 130
Heidfeld 85
Barrichello 52
Kobayashi 46
Petrov 30
Maldonado 24
Sutil 24
Alguersuari 23
Buemi 14
Perez 12
di Resta 12
Kovalainen 2

[August]

Alonso	  324
Vettel	  317
Massa	   285
Webber	  282
Schumacher  173
Rosberg	 130
Heidfeld	112
Hamilton	109
Button	   60
Barrichello  59
Petrov	   33
Buemi		15
Kobayashi	10
Sutil		 6
Alguersuari   3
Maldonado	 1

[AcuraF1]

Vettel 315
Alonso 279
Webber 252
Hamilton 222
Massa 176
Button 161
Schumacher 149
Rosberg 136
Heidfeld 70
Barrichello 46
Petrov 33
Kobayashi 20
Buemi 17
Maldonado 12
Alguersuari 12
Sutil 10
Perez 7
Trulli 2

Edited by AcuraF1, 23 March 2011 - 14:20.

[Crazy Canuck]

Sebastian Vettel 256
Fernando Alonso 252
Mark Webber 242
Lewis Hamilton 230
Jenson Button 224
Felipe Massa 144
Nico Rosberg 120
Michael Schumacher  90
Nick Heidfeld 82
Robert Kubica 50
Rubens Barrichello 47
Vitaly Petrov 40
Jaime Alguersuari 35
Adrian Sutil 30
Sébastien Buemi 30
Kamui Kobayashi 20
Pastor Moldonado 12
Paul di Resta 7
Sergio Perez 6
Heikki Kovalainen 2
Jarno Trulli 0
Timo Glock 0
Jerome d'Ambrosio 0
Vitantonio Liuzzi 0
Narain Karthikeyan 0

[kismet]

Vettel 247
Alonso 240
Webber 239
Hamilton 145
Rosberg 155
Massa 189
Button 131
Heidfeld 99
Schumacher 135
Barrichello 66
Alguersuari 52
Buemi 77
Kobayashi 36
Sutil 29
Maldonado 22
Petrov 25
Perez 16
di Resta 9
Kovalainen 5
Trulli 2

[Brawn BGP 001]

Sebastian Vettel 281
Fernando Alonso 260
Mark Webber 210
Nico Rosberg 169
Felipe Massa 166
Lewis Hamilton 158
Michael Schumacher 146
Jenson Button 137
Nick Heidfeld 100
Rubens Barrichello 78
Vitaly Petrov 54
Kamui Kobayashi 45
Sergio Perez 33
Jaime Alguersuari 20
Pastor Maldonado 17
Adrian Sutil 14
Paul di Resta 9
Daniel Ricciardo 8
Sebastien Buemi 6
Nico Hulkenberg 4
Jarno Trulli 3
Timo Glock 1
Heikki Kovalainen 0
Jerome D'Ambrosio 0
Vitantonio Liuzzi 0
Narian Karthikeyan 0

Edited by Brawn BGP 001, 24 March 2011 - 18:27.

[Dispenser89]

Webber 268
Vettel 254
Alonso 220
Hamilton 193
Button 164
Massa 144
Heidfeld 124
Rosberg 114
Schumacher 90
Barrichello 72
Kobayashi 56
Petrov 51
Sutil 42
Maldonado 36
Perez 26
Alguersuari 22
Di Resta 18
Buemi 14
Kovalainen 5
Trulli 4
Glock 2
Liuzzi 0
D’Ambrosio 0
Karthikeyan 0

[LB]

Sebastian Vettel 256
Fernando Alonso 252
Mark Webber 242
Lewis Hamilton 200
Jenson Button 204
Felipe Massa 144
Nico Rosberg 130
Nick Heidfeld 122
Michael Schumacher 100
Rubens Barrichello 52
Vitaly Petrov 45
Jaime Alguersuari 45
Sébastien Buemi 40
Paul di Resta 32
Adrian Sutil 20
Sébastien Buemi 30
Kamui Kobayashi 15
Pastor Maldonado 12
Sergio Perez 6
Jarno Trulli 2
Heikki Kovalainen 0
Timo Glock 0
Jerome d'Ambrosio 0
Vitantonio Liuzzi 0
Narain Karthikeyan 0


Hope thats right haven't added up just tinkered with someone elses - not got time!

Edited by LB, 24 March 2011 - 18:42.

[control]

Hamilton. 248
Vettel. 235
Alonso. 223
Massa. 216
Webber. 200
Button. 180
Rosberg. 145
Schumacher. 112
Heidfeld. 104
Petrov. 77
Barrichello.52
Sutil. 31
Kobayashi 22
Di Resta. 20
Maldonado. 15
Buemi. 12
Agluersuari. 10
Perez. 5
Kovalainen. 2
Trulli. 1
Glock. 1

[Grayson]

Hamilton 236
Vettel 235
Alonso 220
Webber 175
Button 160
Rosberg 145
Massa 140
Schumacher 135
Heidfeld 90
Petrov 78
Sutil 60
Barrichello 60
Di Resta 40
Kobayashi 40
Buemi 30
Alguersuari 30
Perez 20
Maldonado 15
Kovalainen 5
Trulli 5

My first guess added up to about 2100 - I've had to cut right back on the points for the Red Bulls and Ferraris to fund my optimism about Hamilton, Petrov and the Force Indias!

Edited by Grayson, 24 March 2011 - 20:00.

[kNt]

Fernando Alonso 307
Sebastian Vettel 265
Mark Webber 215
Felipe Massa 211
Nick Heidfeld 161
Lewis Hamilton 137
Michael Schumacher 113
Jenson Button 103
Nico Rosberg 81
Kamui Kobayashi 65
Vitaly Petrov 53
Rubens Barrichello 51
Sergio Perez 34
Jaime Alguersuari 31
Pastor Maldonado 28
Sebastien Buemi 26
Adrian Sutil 21
Paul di Resta 17

I guessed first around 1700.

[noikeee]

Last minute edit. Bumped up McLaren specially after the last comments that they may have found 1 second:

Vettel 292
Alonso 247
Webber 245
Rosberg 168
Massa 160
Schumacher 155
Heidfeld 109
Hamilton 100
Button 88
Barrichello 73
Kobayashi 60
Petrov 48
Alguersuari 47
Pérez 34
Maldonado 34
Buemi 26
Sutil 12
di Resta 10
Ricciardo 7
Kovalainen 3
Trulli 1

[Makarias]

All add up to 1919 so far except control, who is eight points short at 1911.