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[OwenC93]

It's unlikely it will be ready to put on the car anytime soon anyway. So we should be able to see what changes in the later stages of testing or early races.

[H2H]

Oh, come on... Obviously that "dialogue" cannot be real and I wrote it tongue in cheek.

But still the truth is that Mark is probably going first to shake down the car and get through any sort of early reliability problems.

I thought I had said that I like your post. Anyway as somebody said it is likely that the team does switch that task between both drivers, which are well know as hard workers with good technical insight.

I just hope that the car is good enought for a serious challange for the WDC and WCC and that we hear once again "We took nothing for granted"...

Edited by H2H, 25 January 2012 - 11:38.

[GlenP]

This guy is ruining F1 for me....he is frankly the only person standing in the way of looking forward to what should be an interesting season.

You kinda sense Ferrari, Mclaren and maybe even Mercedes will have cars that could be within range of each other... but you also sense this guy will once again build a class of the field and turn it into another boring finger this and that season..arghh

You have seen F1 before, right? It's a technical contest in that sense Newey is the only one doing a good job!

[Rikhart]

joseluisf1: Rumour from the last minute - Newey has found 4 or 5 tenths to the RB8 with something *amazing*.

(sorry for amateur translation, but the sense is the same I believe).

http://twitter.com/#!/joseluisf1/statu...851706043416576

Not "amazing", but rather SURPRISING, that what it says

[The Ragged Edge]

joseluisf1: Rumour from the last minute - Newey has found 4 or 5 tenths to the RB8 with something *amazing*.

(sorry for amateur translation, but the sense is the same I believe).

http://twitter.com/#!/joseluisf1/statu...851706043416576

I'm sorry, but finding 4 to 5 tenths in F1, is akin to a quantum leap. It has to be something super amazing, because you simply dont find such a performance gain overnight, or with a tweak here or there to the aerodynamics. The aim of the top teams is to realsitically gain 0.100 to 0.150 in a fortnight, and if you manage that, you are percieved to be doing a good job.

[jamiegc]

Come on. Surely nobody genuinely believes that Red Bull who everyone is looking at as the benchmark, or their staff on fantastic win bonuses are going to leak out information about their car to journalists.

[Frankbullitt]

If he has gained 4-5ths etc what is it over? Over last year or over what they have lost.

Its also a bit scary that the championship winning team from last year are also one of the quieter ones over the winter.

[BRK]

That package was meant for Brackley, damnit. Must have mixed up my mail.

[jamiegc]

If he has gained 4-5ths etc what is it over? Over last year or over what they have lost.

Its also a bit scary that the championship winning team from last year are also one of the quieter ones over the winter.

Red Bull did their talking at the end of last season with Newey & Horner saying the new car was looking good.

With the staff having earnt 4 win bonuses in 12 months, they would have little incentive to be talking to the media.

[cilurnum]

erm no, you haven't postulated anything.

I have. All I got back was 'that's highly unlikely', thus the 'discussion' never went any further. The thread has then returned to type, fawning over the Google translated crap that Jose Luiz produces. C'est la vie.

[Watkins74]

If he has gained 4-5ths etc what is it over? Over last year or over what they have lost.

Its also a bit scary that the championship winning team from last year are also one of the quieter ones over the winter.

Why blow smoke when you have the fire.

[PNSD]

Why blow smoke when you have the fire.

Gonna steal that one!

[Brandz07]

Could of been half a second slower than a HRT before this, for all we know..

[George Costanza]

I'm sorry, but finding 4 to 5 tenths in F1, is akin to a quantum leap. It has to be something super amazing, because you simply dont find such a performance gain overnight, or with a tweak here or there to the aerodynamics. The aim of the top teams is to realsitically gain 0.100 to 0.150 in a fortnight, and if you manage that, you are percieved to be doing a good job.

Williams did that in 1991 to 1992, right?

[Crossmax]

I really hope that Newey sticks to his usual ability to produce beautiful cars, but should he put on a Caterham style nose, I sincerely hope that Sebastian will name his chassis "Ugly Betty".

[cilurnum]

I'm sorry, but finding 4 to 5 tenths in F1, is akin to a quantum leap.

It depends on the fundamentals of the car. How the front wing interacts with the splitter, sidepods and everything further back. All of that stuff about finding several tenths purely from a new floor and diffuser is wide of the mark. Pinch of salt. More than.

[One]

Newey is now a tweeting star designer,... Disgustingly rich and kinda like more busy with twitter than designing. famous guy and leader of WCC team... Honestly I don't like him that he acting like creating rumor and animo, manipulating fans. IMHO engineer can focus on his function more than being a politician.

[hunnylander]

Newey is now a tweeting star designer,... Disgustingly rich and kinda like more busy with twitter than designing. famous guy and leader of WCC team... Honestly I don't like him that he acting like creating rumor and animo, manipulating fans. IMHO engineer can focus on his function more than being a politician.

What???

There are only fake Neweys on Twitter.

[Owen]

What???

There are only fake Neweys on Twitter.

Yeh, he doesn't seem a 'twitter' kind of guy.

[hunnylander]

Yeh, he doesn't seem a 'twitter' kind of guy.

Yeah, he's very oldskool. He doesn't even prefer to use computers for a profession which is extremely CAD- and computer-heavy since a very long time already.

[BennyJohnson]

Yeah, he's very oldskool. He doesn't even prefer to use computers for a profession which is extremely CAD- and computer-heavy since a very long time already.

This season will be about two things.

Nose Cones and Diffusers.

Red Bull have experience in Single Deck Diffusers, they had a car beating the Brawn GP car's that had a single deck diffuser, and they have a Front Wing setup better than anyone.

I really can't see anyone stopping Red Bull this year, although a bit of competition would be great.

[apoka]

I really hope that Newey sticks to his usual ability to produce beautiful cars, but should he put on a Caterham style nose, I sincerely hope that Sebastian will name his chassis "Ugly Betty".

I must admit that I'm getting more and more afraid that the new RB might indeed be ugly. Maybe Newey will amaze everyone by having a car without a crazy nose.

[Lazy]

I must admit that I'm getting more and more afraid that the new RB might indeed be ugly. Maybe Newey will amaze everyone by having a car without a crazy nose.

It's hard to imagine Newey drawing an ugly stepped nose like that on his drawing board.

[jrg19]

It's hard to imagine Newey drawing an ugly stepped nose like that on his drawing board.

I think well see it like McLaren without the under plow basically the rb7 lowered accordingly.

[Zava]

dunno the source, found it on a hungarian forum. most probably a fanart, but it would look good...

[krea]

looks like a reskinned Lotus

[H2H]

dunno the source, found it on a hungarian forum. most probably a fanart, but it would look good...

Not a bad design, but would be illegal.

[Madras]

I'm pretty sure the wing mirrors on that fan art are too far out.

[Zava]

Not a bad design, but would be illegal.

yeah, well forget the bodywork, most probably it is a RB6 repainted. just posted for the livery.

[H2H]

yeah, well forget the bodywork, most probably it is a RB6 repainted. just posted for the livery.;)

I dislike the livery, still thanks for the post

[Richard T]

I think the RB8 will have quite a severe step in its nose like ferrari. Since their design philosophy has always been to have a very high nose and channel lots of air under the nose

[fieraku]

dunno the source, found it on a hungarian forum. most probably a fanart, but it would look good...

Isn't that a photoshoped RB6?

http://195.191.25.14...wallpaper-2.jpg

[jamiegc]

That yellow looks horrendous

As for RB8, i'd expect the platypus nose.

[Zava]

Isn't that a photoshoped RB6?

I guess so.

yeah, well forget the bodywork, most probably it is a RB6 repainted. just posted for the livery.;)

[krapmeister]

Well if anyone can make a stepped nose look good it should be Newey - I struggle to think that he would let something that ugly (ala Ferrari) come from his drawing board...

Edited by krapmeister, 05 February 2012 - 10:19.

[Mastah]

f1enigma Dimi PAPADOPOULOS
Marko: Our car isnt as bad looking as the Ferrari but also not like McLaren. We have a tech solution in place and it looks better. From Bild

[SCUDmissile]

the article i read based on those quotes said that the RB8 would have a bump, but would not be as pronounced as the ferrari, which is to be expected, as the RB7 nose was a lot lower than the F150, but they are still going in a similar direction. it seems McLaren are on their own with the no bump nose, but i guess that doesn't mean it is bad. but i wonder what Marko mean with their own tech solution? i think it just means that their nose bump will be a little less pronounced.

http://translate.goo...nter-knick.html

[Tifoso05]

Truzonef1 Enrique Rodríguez
RT "@Formula1Home ¿Nuevo Red Bull RB8? yfrog.com/0ot6ap (Vía @F1Today) #F1"

http://yfrog.com/0ot6ap

It may be the new title challenger

Edited by Tifoso05, 05 February 2012 - 21:19.

[Crazy Ninja]

Truzonef1 Enrique Rodríguez
RT "@Formula1Home ¿Nuevo Red Bull RB8? yfrog.com/0ot6ap (Vía @F1Today) #F1"

http://yfrog.com/0ot6ap

It may be the new title challenger

http://www.f1today.nl/fotos/19200.html

[olliek88]

Taken in Jerez, is this the RB8?

http://www.f1today.n....php?file=19200

Dammit! Too slow! haha.

Edited by olliek88, 05 February 2012 - 21:21.

[CrucialXtreme]

That's the RB7.

[Snic]

Mclaren style nose? what a spectacularly mysterious shot! Almost looks staged

[BRK]

Nose is too high to be the RB8.

I can't wait to see what this car looks like.

[albertini]

Why they would bring the old car? i think its the new1

[CrucialXtreme]

Why they would bring the old car? i think its the new1

The better question would be since they're doing an online launch why on earth would they allow its picture to be taken? No way this is the RB8. Teams are too careful for that.

[Szoelloe]

I am fairly sure it is an RB7

[jamiegc]

Why they would bring the old car? i think its the new1

Why wouldnt they bring the old car...

It doesnt hurt to have the old - very succesful - car there whilst you are working on testing and setting up the new car.

[King Six]

Could be an RB8, with an old 2011 spec nosecone attached so it's illegally high (). Don't know why they would do that, but it's an option so that the car isn't leaked early. That or they've gone the McLaren route and lowered the chassis itself. I can't see why it would be an RB7.

[Szoelloe]

Why they would bring the old car? i think its the new1

LOL, maybe they are not ready with the 8 yet. They were not sure of themselves concerning the first test.

[SCUDmissile]

Didn't they do this last year? I seem to remember an old RedBull/toro Rossi in the RedBull garage in testing last year. Maybe that's the same? It looks identical to the rb7