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#1 CrucialXtreme

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:59

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Strategy:

2012 tyres - medium (prime/white) and soft (option/yellow)
2011* tyres - hard (prime/silver) and soft (option/yellow)
2010 tyres - medium (prime/no stripe) and supersoft (option/stripe)

Grid:

1 1 Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing-Renault
2 4 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
3 2 Mark Webber Red Bull Racing-Renault
4 3 Jenson Button McLaren-Mercedes
5 8 Nico Rosberg Mercedes
6 16 Daniel Ricciardo STR-Ferrari
7 10 Romain Grosjean Lotus-Renault
8 15 Sergio Perez Sauber-Ferrari
9 5 Fernando Alonso Ferrari
10 11 Paul di Resta Force India-Mercedes
11 9 Kimi Räikkönen Lotus-Renault
12 14 Kamui Kobayashi Sauber-Ferrari
13 12 Nico Hulkenberg Force India-Mercedes
14 6 Felipe Massa Ferrari
15 19 Bruno Senna Williams-Renault
16 20 Heikki Kovalainen Caterham-Renault
17 18 Pastor Maldonado Williams-Renault
18 7 Michael Schumacher Mercedes
19 17 Jean-Eric Vergne STR-Ferrari
20 21 Vitaly Petrov Caterham-Renault
21 25 Charles Pic Marussia-Cosworth
22 22 Pedro de la Rosa HRT-Cosworth
23 24 Timo Glock Marussia-Cosworth
24 23 Narain Karthikeyan HRT-Cosworth




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#2 Kelateboy

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 04:03

Does anybody know how long (in meter) is the run to the 1st corner?

#3 Bleu

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 06:30

Does anybody know how long (in meter) is the run to the 1st corner?


Google Earth count tells around 470-480 to the apex. A bit shorter to the braking point of course.

#4 Crafty

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:00

Just saw a tweet from Brundle that says Schumacher is to take a new gearbox and resulting 5 place grid drop.

#5 UnspecialEffects

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:04

Just saw a tweet from Brundle that says Schumacher is to take a new gearbox and resulting 5 place grid drop.


Makes sense I guess, starting 23rd isn't much worse than starting 18th, he should be able to make up the spots fairly quickly.

#6 Crafty

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:14

That thing is going to be flying by the time it gets to T1, if there is a collision mid field he could gain massively.

#7 MortenF1

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:18

Has there been an unusual amount of gearbox-swaps so far this year?

#8 kartinhero

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:22

1. HAM
2. BUT
3. VET OR RAI
4. VET OR RAI
5. ROS

That's my prediction for tomorrow..

#9 Lotus53B

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:24

Makes sense I guess, starting 23rd isn't much worse than starting 18th, he should be able to make up the spots fairly quickly.


Not only that, but he gets a free change next race - that could be very beneficial.

I wonder if we'll see a rash of poorly placed runners suddenly finding a fault in their gearboxes

#10 DracoN

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:26

Lots of fresh tyres so hope we see good action.

#11 Zauba

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:27

This is going to suck badly. Mark this words

#12 Lotus53B

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:34

I wonder if the feed will run tape delayed by a few minutes, in case trouble starts

#13 MortenF1

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:38

Not only that, but he gets a free change next race - that could be very beneficial.

I wonder if we'll see a rash of poorly placed runners suddenly finding a fault in their gearboxes


I thought he will now have to stick with this gearbox for five GPs?
I'm not up to date on these rules, like I used to.

#14 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:38

I wonder if the feed will run tape delayed by a few minutes, in case trouble starts


I don't see that happening myself (anyway, why a few minutes? Even a 10-15 second delay would be enough for them to make sure something isn't shown if something serious occurs).

#15 toroRosso

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:38

may we see a nude protester on the track

#16 iotar

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:38

Makes sense I guess, starting 23rd isn't much worse than starting 18th, he should be able to make up the spots fairly quickly.

I'm surprised he's not afraid of slower cars, that according to Marko/Vettel are a major problem of F1 these days. That is when you can't overtake them and crash into them.

#17 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:39

I thought he will now have to stick with this gearbox for five GPs?
I'm not up to date on these rules, like I used to.


It was mentioned in qualifying that because Hamilton changed his gearbox last race he'd get a free change this weekend should he decide to take it.

#18 LB

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:40

may we see a nude protester on the track


In Bahrain? seriously?

You may see the odd clothed one.

#19 rubikimi

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:40

what time does the race start(uk time)?

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#20 walkindude

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:43

I have a feeling this is going to be a cracker of a race between Hamilton and Vettel and probably rosberg.Put Button in there too.Can't wait.

#21 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:45

what time does the race start(uk time)?


1pm

#22 kosmos

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:48

I will be surprised if this race is not won by McLaren.

#23 rubikimi

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 07:56

1pm

thanks!

#24 PoliFanAthic

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:06

Not only that, but he gets a free change next race - that could be very beneficial.

I wonder if we'll see a rash of poorly placed runners suddenly finding a fault in their gearboxes


Isn't this the same gearbox he had troubles with in Australia?

#25 hulmerist

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:08

1. HAM
2. BUT
3. VET OR RAI
4. VET OR RAI
5. ROS

That's my prediction for tomorrow..


i wouldn't discount webber for the win tomorrow, he seems to be able to make the tyres last quite well, think it'll be webber and vettel in no particular order with hamilton in third (again)

#26 Andromeda

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:09

I have a feeling this is going to be a cracker of a race between Hamilton and Vettel and probably rosberg.Put Button in there too.Can't wait.


Button and Rosberg have an extra set of tyres and Hamilton is going to be hounding Vettel from the start of the race. Vettel could win this race but I'm personally banking on Button or Hamilton to win it.

#27 Crafty

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:17

1. HAM
2. BUT
3. VET OR RAI
4. VET OR RAI
5. ROS

That's my prediction for tomorrow..


Can't see RAI getting that high up to be honest, unless ROS & WEB have problems. He'd need to get past Grosjean as well.

#28 Augurk

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:38

Grid changed. Maldonado down in 21st, Schumacher in 22nd.

#29 Octavian

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:41

Grid changed. Maldonado down in 21st, Schumacher in 22nd.


What's happened to Schumi?

#30 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:41

Hope they give the track a thoroughly good sweep/clean, looks to be alot of marbles at the end of the GP2 race.

#31 jamiegc

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:41

Noticeable from the GP2 that the track hasnt been cleaned. Marbles everywhere off-line.

#32 Augurk

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:41

What's happened to Schumi?

Gear box change.

#33 Augurk

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:42

Hope they give the track a thoroughly good sweep/clean, looks to be alot of marbles at the end of the GP2 race.



Noticeable from the GP2 that the track hasnt been cleaned. Marbles everywhere off-line.

Surely they will before the race?

#34 jamiegc

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:45

Surely they will before the race?


They usually do before the GP2 races on the Sunday morning.

#35 dreamerBiH

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:50

is it a big difference between dirty and clean starting places?

#36 Antonov

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:52

will there be rain? :rotfl:

#37 Cavani

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:58

no protesters will interrupt the race, the security is mega over there.

#38 jamiegc

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 08:59

is it a big difference between dirty and clean starting places?


People struggled off the front row in both GP2 races

Edited by jamiegc, 22 April 2012 - 09:00.


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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:00

I'm surprised he's not afraid of slower cars, that according to Marko/Vettel are a major problem of F1 these days. That is when you can't overtake them and crash into them.

That's probably because RBRs were almost dead last in speed traps. I'm wondering though, why wouldn't he start from the pitlane, Turn1 is almost guaranteed accident.

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#40 iotar

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:03

That's probably because RBRs were almost dead last in speed traps. I'm wondering though, why wouldn't he start from the pitlane, Turn1 is almost guaranteed accident.

That was my point - RB/Vettel problem not F1 problem.

#41 Kelateboy

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:05

may we see a nude protester on the track

Like Hockenheim 2000? I wonder if the Mercedes employee was naked.... :D

#42 Kelateboy

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:09

People struggled off the front row in both GP2 races

In the 1st GP2 race, the guy in P2 started out well. They guy in P4 was struggling to get off the line.

No idea about the 2nd GP2 race.

#43 MortenF1

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:12

About sweeping the starting grid, they did here and there a handful of years ago, but I haven't heard about this for a while.
Maybe they stopped doing it, deciding it was a nuance worth keeping.

#44 HuddersfieldTerrier1986

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:13

That's probably because RBRs were almost dead last in speed traps. I'm wondering though, why wouldn't he start from the pitlane, Turn1 is almost guaranteed accident.


At a guess, because he knows that even by turn 1 he'll have made up a few places, yes he could get involved in something, but at the same time, if he starts from the pitlane, he can't leave until the last car passes the end of the pitlane, and everyone will obviously be going a damn sight quicker than he'll be able to when he gets started. Yes it's a risk, but like I said, he'll make up a good number of places by the time they get out of the first few corners I'd imagine.

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:14

In the 1st GP2 race, the guy in P2 started out well. They guy in P4 was struggling to get off the line.

No idea about the 2nd GP2 race.


P4 was first in the first corner, whilst P2 struggled. P1 had a bad start too.

#46 Dalton007

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:28

Two MACs on the podium, and I think Vettel is there for the taking.

#47 Andromeda

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:34

P4 was first in the first corner, whilst P2 struggled. P1 had a bad start too.


You make it sound like Button will win this race with ease...

#48 Pendejo

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:45

I truly expect one, if not both, of the Ferrari cars to be lapped today.

#49 Kvothe

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:45

‏ @mrjakehumphrey

Remarkably it's actually spitting with rain here in Bahrain! Long time till the race, but considerably cooler today which may be crucial



#50 Augurk

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Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:46

‏ @mrjakehumphrey

Bah, rain... :smoking:

They actually have rain in Bahrain?