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[Buttoneer]

Continuation of previous thread now exceeded 4000 posts.

http://forums.autosp...howtopic=168658

[Kvothe]

Any word on the F1 grapevine about what the upgrades will be?

[jrg19]

Hopefully some internals.

[Kvothe]

Hopefully that'll include the exhaust chamber both Ferrari and Red Bull already have.

[jrg19]

Kvothe, on Jul 26 2012, 21:51, said:

Hopefully that'll include the exhaust chamber both Ferrari and Red Bull already have.

Yeah i was surprised not to see that with the Germany package, i guess its in the works.

[ZooL]

Kvothe, on Jul 26 2012, 21:49, said:

Any word on the F1 grapevine about what the upgrades will be?

McLaren debuted the season with the fastest car on the track. They got outdeveloped. They have now only just debuted their big package which has only just allowed them to catch back up. Based on this I doubt they have anything worthwhile in laptime.

I still don't understand how McLaren lost such a big development lead, though part of me thinks some of it was down to focussing heavily looking for technical reasons why Button only managed 4 pts in 6 races.

[Buttoneer]

2007 posts deleted. This thread is to discuss the McLaren car.

[OwenC93]

McLaren can't get the nose any higher but they have removed one side of it to introduce more air to the floor.

[OwenC93]

Modifications to only Lewis's car so far.

http://www.f1technic...=364096#p364096

Edited by OwenC93, 26 July 2012 - 21:33.

[NoDivergence]

it's set to rain on Friday and sunday fix the problems, please, mclaren

[mlsnoopy]

NoDivergence, on Jul 27 2012, 02:30, said:

it's set to rain on Friday and sunday fix the problems, please, mclaren

I higly doubt it will rain on sunday. As the weather I have today will be over Budapest on Sunday.

[NoDivergence]

Understood, I was just going by the formula1.com weather predictions, which have been wrong (but sometimes right) before

[Szoelloe]

mlsnoopy, on Jul 27 2012, 08:37, said:

I higly doubt it will rain on sunday. As the weather I have today will be over Budapest on Sunday.

I doubt it will rain. Going to be hot though. So far, it only rained(past week was the same forecast or worse) early in the morning, late in the afternoon, sometimes at night, and not heavily either. Really felt chokingly humid too.

[jrg19]

Looking alright so far.

[PretentiousBread]

Looking great so far, and to be fair, it was also looking great at Hockenheim until the rain came and the car ceased to work.

McLaren really, really need a big result this weekend. A 1-2 would be amazing, and would really help eat into the points advantage of the others combined.

[Owen]

JB hails progress made
http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101523

[Kvothe]

upgrades spotted?

[Mc_Silver]

Car looks balanced and quick out of box which is positive

[Markn93]

High fuel run now, same program as Germany.

[Pingu Pi]

Car looks really nicely balanced and tidy, haven't seen any instability so far.

[Atreiu]

They were supposed to fight for the WCC and now...

[Bartel]

Looking tidy so far gents, would like to have done more of a longer run but oh well, i think we look competative! Hopes are high.

[JRizzle86]

Atreiu, on Jul 27 2012, 10:26, said:

They were supposed to fight for the WCC and now...

....they are still fighting for the WCC...

[Owen]

Quote

The team dominated an uneventful opening practice session for the Hungarian Grand Prix at the Hungaroring.

http://www.autosport...t.php/id/101524

Awesome start. Hope it continues...

[Owen]

@andrewbensonf1
FP1: McLarens look quick, as often on a Friday, likewise Alonso. Red Bull surprisingly slow. Is that anything to do with rule change?

[Markn93]

Lewis chimes in - Lewis Hamilton ‏@LewisHamilton
Good first session. Worked on setup & then long run. Car feels good, will try to make it better. Back in room & changing before debrief.

[JRizzle86]

Looking fast and stable. It's looking good boys and girls.

[velgajski1]

JRizzle86, on Jul 27 2012, 09:42, said:

....they are still fighting for the WCC...

WCC now looks much easier task then WDC. They do have 2 great drivers and with couple of 1-2 or 1-3 wins, they'll could be up there with RBR.

[MortenF1]

New sponsor/partner as well!

[karlth]

JRizzle86, on Jul 27 2012, 02:03, said:

Looking fast and stable. It's looking good boys and girls.

[Markn93]

race addicted, on Jul 27 2012, 11:06, said:

New sponsor/partner as well!

Who?

[MortenF1]

Markn93, on Jul 27 2012, 13:08, said:

Who?

I don't know, but there's something new on the rear wing. I'm on a very sloooow connection just now, so I haven't been able to open a bigger pic, to see what it reads.
There's always a possibility it could also be the same company who has Lucozade under their wings, promoting a different brand this weekend.

[Markn93]

race addicted, on Jul 27 2012, 11:12, said:

I don't know, but there's something new on the rear wing. I'm on a very sloooow connection just now, so I haven't been able to open a bigger pic, to see what it reads.
There's always a possibility it could also be the same company who has Lucozade under their wings, promoting a different brand this weekend.

It's maximuscle isn't it? Which is also part of GlaxoSmithKline, they presumably want to advertise them now instead of Lucozade (also belongs to them).

[MortenF1]

So the same company then... Thanks!

[slmk]

Markn93, on Jul 27 2012, 04:53, said:

Lewis chimes in - Lewis Hamilton ‏@LewisHamilton
Good first session. Worked on setup & then long run. Car feels good, will try to make it better. Back in room & changing before debrief.

And in usual McLaren fashion, they will make changes to the awesome Friday setup and screw everything up in FP3/Q.

[karlth]

slmk, on Jul 27 2012, 03:25, said:

And in usual McLaren fashion, they will make changes to the awesome Friday setup and screw everything up in FP3/Q.

Not in Hungary, I expect them to do well here.

[Anonymous]

No rain this time, please.

[FizzyJerk]

McLaren looking good. Wouldn't be surprised to see a 1 - 2 this race.

[David1976]

Anonymous, on Jul 27 2012, 11:34, said:

No rain this time, please.

Yes. The rain almost has the same effect on the MP4-27 as the wicked witch of the west...

[Mc_Silver]

It is sad to know that we are weak in wet conditions. We have been one of the best in wet conditions in the past years but this year for whatever reason we are nowhere near red bull or ferrari

[Owen]

Mc_Silver, on Jul 27 2012, 11:57, said:

It is sad to know that we are weak in wet conditions. We have been one of the best in wet conditions in the past years but this year for whatever reason we are nowhere near red bull or ferrari

It's a tyre thing, not a car thing though. We need to understand the tyres better (as RBR and Ferrari have done). Surely that is achievable.

[karlth]

Mc_Silver, on Jul 27 2012, 03:57, said:

It is sad to know that we are weak in wet conditions. We have been one of the best in wet conditions in the past years but this year for whatever reason we are nowhere near red bull or ferrari

That is probably not totally fair. The car is inconsistent in wet conditions as we saw at Silverstone and Hockenheim. The car seemed for example to be the fastest on intermediate tires at Hockenheim.

[MightyMc]

What has happened here is Mclaren did not rush their updates this season, there was the 3 races prior to Silverstone where the lack of bits being bolted onto the car allowed Redbull and Ferrari to take the lead.

Mclaren put more time into developing an upgrade to win them their home GP, but the rain scuppered that plan, I reckon a dry Silverstone weekend and the pace we have seen in Germany and today in FP1 would have been evident at Silverstone also.

I actually think the car still has some optimisation to go yet to get full benefit from all these recent upgrades, if it stays dry they will nail a great setup for this weekend.

Only rain can spoil the party.

All roads point to Mclaren being back at the top IMO.

[mgs315]

Silverstone spec car was the old spec no?

[MightyMc]

mgs315, on Jul 27 2012, 12:21, said:

Silverstone spec car was the old spec no?

Mclaren planned a big upgrade for Silverstone to win their home GP, the rain screwed them, I remember Whitmarsh saying they were winging it setup wise because of not having chance to test the bits in dry conditions.

Mclaren have brought alot of new bits the last 3 races, now we are seeing them getting chance to optimise those updates and you are seeing genuine pace in the dry, fast last week, fast this week.

[robybobey]

http://www.formula1....2/d12hun410.jpg

Testing new diffuser gurney.

Lots of rake here too: http://www.formula1....2/d12hun413.jpg

Info from @somersf1

Edited by robybobey, 27 July 2012 - 11:32.

[hunnylander]

They didn't have the new sidepods/exhaust ready for Silverstone.

[Markn93]

Perhaps a chance to test inters and maybe wets? If the team have a good setup for the car in the dry this could be a perfect session, if we are able to sort out wet tyre issues.

[jrg19]

Ferraris and Kimi look like the biggest threat this weekend.

Double podium would be a great job.

[rinokt]

Is this their new sponsor?

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