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#2151 Yendor

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 15:29

Originally posted by knickerbrook
Mick Boddice number 5? (Think Terry Vinnecombe is last chair in the distance?).

I thought Rod's warming-up area shot might have been Castle Combe.


No sorry definately Snetterton ;)

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#2152 Russell Burrows

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 17:35

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer
Love the chairs myself. So how about this one then?

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Mick Boddice, one of the Hanks brothers, probably Norman, and Peter Brown hammering towards Devils Elbow about '68ish ? Is that Rose in the Hanks chair?

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 17:43

Originally posted by knickerbrook
Mick Boddice number 5.

Mick Boddice is correct :clap:

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Mick Boddice, one of the Hanks brothers, probably Norman, and Peter Brown hammering towards Devils Elbow about '68ish ? Is that Rose in the Hanks chair?

Spot on the money once again Russ. Good man. :clap: :wave:
No mention of who is in the chair.
Errr..........., hang on, did you say ´68? Sorry matie, have to deduct a point there. ´69 actually. :rotfl:

#2154 Russell Burrows

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 17:44

Originally posted by Yendor


Alright clever clogs, sort this little lot out. Good night all :wave:


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Gordon Bennett..... coloured number backgrounds on the fairing fronts means pre '63? 350's Snetterton. Can't ID any of them....anyone there we should know? Lovely shot though - got any more?

#2155 Russell Burrows

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 17:45

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer

Mick Boddice is correct :clap:


Spot on the money once again Russ. Good man. :clap: :wave:
No mention of who is in the chair.
Errr..........., hang on, did you say ´68? Sorry matie, have to deduct a point there. ´69 actually. :rotfl:


That was the deliberate mistake to ensure you were paying attention....

#2156 Russell Burrows

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 17:51

Originally posted by Rennmax


Good morning mates,

any sidecar specialist around who could give an answer ?

Thanks


I wonder if it was Mick Fiddaman over here ? There was though somebody else.....mmm, have to have a think later.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 17:58

Lovely shot of the crazy man in action. :lol: Definitely my favorite chair rider of all time.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 18:01

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Mick Boddice, one of the Hanks brothers, probably Norman, and Peter Brown hammering towards Devils Elbow about '68ish ? Is that Rose in the Hanks chair?


Sure a woman so must be Rose. ;)

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 18:05

Originally posted by HEMEYLA


Sure a woman so must be Rose. ;)


My second favourite passenger.....

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 18:21

Nice pics Hemelya. I always though Arsenius's and Georg Auerbachers outfits were poetry in motion and also this was a lovely outfit Otto Kolle's being warmed up at a Solitude get together

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 18:25

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer
Lovely shot of the crazy man in action. :lol: Definitely my favorite chair rider of all time.

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I'll second that Rhodie :up: a genius on and off the track IMHO :love:

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 19:54

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Can you identify the 3 gentlemen and lady facing the camera? Not those with backs to.
Sidecars and solos come into it.

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 20:04

Originally posted by Arthur
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Can you identify the 3 gentlemen and lady facing the camera? Not those with backs to.
Sidecars and solos come into it.

on the left Norman Hanks? must be his Wife next to him Rose?

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 20:09

correct with those 2 fu Well done. What about the other 2?

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 21:46

Originally posted by Arthur
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Can you identify the 3 gentlemen and lady facing the camera? Not those with backs to.
Sidecars and solos come into it.

Just guessing now, Roy & Tom?

#2166 Russell Burrows

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 21:58

Is the distinguished gentleman with the grey hair your good self Arthur?

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 22:22

Originally posted by sterling49


Out of interest, are any of you guys attending the Colin Seeley night at FORC? He will be holding an audience.

Wednesday 25th March..........Colin Seeley


Fraid not Sterling. I know you have mentioned it before, but did you explain previously that these are a series of events?

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Posted 05 March 2009 - 22:26

Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Is the distinguished gentleman with the grey hair your good self Arthur?


Bit to ermmmm tidy to be yourself Russ :lol: ;) :kiss:

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 00:42

Distinguished grey-haired gentleman has to be Stan Dibben, and it's a TT Riders Association Lunch (sorry, luncheon !!!)

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 07:58

Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Is the distinguished gentleman with the grey hair your good self Arthur?


Sorry Russell only ever hung out of a sidecar once and I would never have got near the standards or achievements of this gentleman.
Larry is correct with Stan Dibben ex Eric Oliver passenger.Do'snt he look well for his age.The lad sitting next to Stan is Glen English well known classic racer

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:14

Seeing as we're on charts at the moment, a very obvious driver here

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 08:51

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


I wonder if it was Mick Fiddaman over here ? There was though somebody else.....mmm, have to have a think later.


Thanks for info, Russ .... which bings my rummaging mind to another question

When ended the era of "real" sidecars, i.e. bikes with 18 or 18 inch wheels (not neccessarily the size of the sidecarwheel) ? I guess it is around 58/59 by looking at pictues of the BMWs of Hillebrand or Schneider ? When was the last traditonal one topping the tables in UK ?
Thanks

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 09:03

Originally posted by Rennmax


Thanks for info, Russ .... which bings my rummaging mind to another question

When ended the era of "real" sidecars, i.e. bikes with 18 or 18 inch wheels (not neccessarily the size of the sidecarwheel) ? I guess it is around 58/59 by looking at pictues of the BMWs of Hillebrand or Schneider ? When was the last traditonal one topping the tables in UK ?
Thanks


.... 18 or 19 inch wheels :blush: :blush:

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 10:55

That picture (how do I copy it into my post by the way?) - Bill Boddice; is his passenger John Tanner?; Mick Boddice; is no 23 Pete Brown?

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:11

Further to other posts - I heard the story about Flo driving his racing outfit through the Mersey Tunnel - that must have been worth hearing! And I remember that in the June after Bob Mac was killed we were in the Isle of Man and there was a big thunderstorm - Dad told me it was Bob warming his bike up in the sky - I'm filling up now, thinking about it!

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 11:20

Sorry - keep having bits reappear withou warning in my head - its not good for my work, this site!

I think it was probably the same year in the IOM, the year Vincent won the sidecar race (and Minter the 250s?), we were spectating at The Gooseneck, waiting for the first outfits to arrive when there was a sonic boom - Dad told me it was probably Max Deubel on his way up from Ramsey - I was very gullible!

And one other thing about Bob Mac - Derek Minter won the first McIntyre Memorial race at Oulton Park. I think it was probably held in August or September of 1964. Anyway, my brother was born in July of that year and christened Robert Braddan and after the race a photographer collared Mom, got her to hand the baby to The Mint and then took a picture of the three of them, Minter astride his bike holding my kid brother and Mom standing next to him. It was published in one of the papers (maybe the Blue 'Un) and if anybody could track down a copy that would be fantastic.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 13:41

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer

Wot a punter. Jackpot. :eek: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: Peter will like that one.;)
Martin Watson on the Aldridge Norton. Roy Hesketh 1965.


Hi,
What a great picture of Martin as you say on the Aldridge Norton it looks like Angels Angle at the great Roy Hesketh circuit and you are right I love it.
Looking at the bike it seems like it could have been the last race in SA before they were shipped to the UK in about February 65 both the 350 and 500 had the silver faring with the black and red pin stripes traditional Norton colours. Maybe I was being biased but I thought they looked fantastic.
I remember a comment early in the UK season in the MCN stating that the bikes Martin rode where elderly but rapid which my Dad was very happy to hear as he had done all the mods to get them up to the latest spec. Great days

Peter

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 13:53

Another couple of "three wheeler" pics I've come across, well three actually :|

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I really don't think I would have wanted to be in the bottom one :eek:

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 14:38

Originally posted by Rennmax


Thanks for info, Russ .... which bings my rummaging mind to another question

When ended the era of "real" sidecars, i.e. bikes with 18 or 18 inch wheels (not neccessarily the size of the sidecarwheel) ? I guess it is around 58/59 by looking at pictues of the BMWs of Hillebrand or Schneider ? When was the last traditonal one topping the tables in UK ?
Thanks


Hi Renn, Didn't Eric Oliver race a Norton with shortened forks and smaller wheels from the early fifties ? I think his kneeler follwed not to long after this, so this too must have run with smaller and fatter wheels? I think it may have been in the immedate post war period when a chair attached to a pretty standard bike was last competitve. Later, even apparently standard looking Manxes were invariably lowered.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 14:43

Is the top one the paddock at Oulton? Haven't got a clue who's in the picture. Middle one is obviously Greenwood at Mallory, and is the bottom one the Scitsu?

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 14:45

Originally posted by Rennmax
Good morning gents,

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Photo Copyrighted to Münch Archiv


happy, but short-lived days


Herr Fath and for me, two unidentified gentlemen...Oh and the Munch?

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 15:00

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yendor
[B]Another couple of "three wheeler" pics I've come across, well three actually :|

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I was thinking Oulton Park too. Nice shot.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 15:01

Originally posted by Russell Burrows


Herr Fath and for me, two unidentified gentlemen...Oh and the Munch?


Famous riders at the Salzburgring in Austria 1970

in the middle, "Burgemeister" Karl Hoppe and at the right Ferdinand "Ferdi" Kaczor. Link :cry:

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 15:28

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Who's this young fella ?

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 15:38

Originally posted by HEMEYLA


Famous riders at the Salzburgring in Austria 1970

in the middle, "Burgemeister" Karl Hoppe and at the right Ferdinand "Ferdi" Kaczor. Link :cry:



Perfect.
The shot was taken at the first GP of Austria on the Salzburgring (not counting to the worldchampionship that year) where Kaczor scored 1st and Karl Hoppe scored 2nd place on their Metisse framed Münch-URS bikes (MV didn' t take part)
So hopes were high to give Ago a run for his money in the GPs of this season, but this effort was a complete failure. The team fell apart (Messrs Fath and Münch being too strong characters to cooperate ?).
Kaczor, who was a engineer with BMW and was mainly involved in the R75/5 chassis development at the time, turned to a Yam TR2 and was killed in one of his fist outings in Ziersdorf, Austria in this season.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 16:25

Originally posted by Rennmax



Perfect.
The shot was taken at the first GP of Austria on the Salzburgring (not counting to the worldchampionship that year) where Kaczor scored 1st and Karl Hoppe scored 2nd place on their Metisse framed Münch-URS bikes (MV didn' t take part)
So hopes were high to give Ago a run for his money in the GPs of this season, but this effort was a complete failure. The team fell apart (Messrs Fath and Münch being too strong characters to cooperate ?).
Kaczor, who was a engineer with BMW and was mainly involved in the R75/5 chassis development at the time, turned to a Yam TR2 and was killed in one of his fist outings in Ziersdorf, Austria in this season.


What a very sad ending to a very promising debut :(

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 16:31

Originally posted by Yendor






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I really don't think I would have wanted to be in the bottom one :eek: [/B]



Had to look twice to find out whats front and rear :)


CB 450 bomber in the background ? A dream in these days ...
Remember one being used in a outfit, with the engine turned 90 degrees thus cylinders facing forward("Porcupine" style)

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 16:45

Originally posted by Russell Burrows
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Who's this young fella ?


Give us a clue please.

Face reminds me of Tom Phillis :

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 17:19

Not Tom, although, unfortunately, he left this world in the same year as Phillis. He's a Brit and was well known here.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 17:33

[QUOTE]Originally posted by TDH
That picture (how do I copy it into my post by the way?) - Bill Boddice; is his passenger John Tanner?; Mick Boddice; is no 23 Pete Brown? [/QUOTE]

Nice stories TDH, and welcome to the forum. :wave:
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Posted 06 March 2009 - 17:52

Originally posted by Rennmax
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The lady in black is the mayor of this town :)


Read & Jim Redman.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 18:10

Originally posted by Russell Burrows
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Who's this young fella ?


Roy Mayhew?

On second thoughts - possibly Colin Meehan -sorry he wan't English?

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 18:14

Originally posted by picblanc


Read & Jim Redman.


Perfect Mr Fu :clap:

It's last year's Schottenring Grand Prix

BTW, Geoff Duke rode his last race there (on the original circuit) as a Nortom teamster there in '52

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 19:20

Originally posted by gripper


Roy Mayhew?

On second thoughts - possibly Colin Meehan -sorry he wan't English?


Well done Gripper - Roy is correct. Colin Seeley, in his book - a really good read by the way, available at Redline Books ;) - said he had crashed at Mallory a week or so before his fatal crash and had been knocked out or concussed. At Brands, the scene of the fatal crash, he charged along the top straight and just didn't sit up for Paddock and apprently rode straight into the bank. Seeley suggests he may have still been suffering the effects of the Mallory crash. The shot of Roy is from Biggin Hill, 1958. Was is Bernard who mentioned the old WW2 airfield in a racing context ? If so Bernard, can we have some more info please? As some of you know, Roy was probably destined for bigger and better things - great shame.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 19:27

Originally posted by picblanc


Read & Jim Redman.


Those ladies taking a chance with Phil around. LOL

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 19:30

Originally posted by Arthur


Those ladies taking a chance with Phil around. LOL

They sure are Arthur ,do you reckon that's why they are there ;) :up: :kiss:

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 19:45

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What model is this machine and what is its famous history.

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 19:59

Originally posted by Arthur
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What model is this machine and what is its famous history.

Rennfox "Blauwahl" ( blue whale ) 125 cc championship winning in '54

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 20:07

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Sorry renn not the Fox 125cc. Here's a picture of that little beauty

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Posted 06 March 2009 - 20:12

Originally posted by Rennmax


Rennfox "Blauwahl" ( blue whale ) 125 cc championship winning in '54



Sorry Sir, haven't seen the rightside exhaust pipe ... lame excuse :mad: :o

So it should be the Rennmax of Werner Haas ?