Jump to content


Photo

Personal photos of Australian motor racing '50s to '70s


  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
10099 replies to this topic

#6051 Dale Harvey

Dale Harvey
  • Member

  • 417 posts
  • Joined: January 04

Posted 12 November 2011 - 21:10

Yes, Alan Hamilton is listed in the programme as the driver of that car.

Dale.

Advertisement

#6052 lyntonh

lyntonh
  • Member

  • 1,644 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 12 November 2011 - 22:10

Yes, Alan Hamilton is listed in the programme as the driver of that car.

Dale.

Thanks,all....
a bit slow on my part, AH would have been the obvious answer, but the Scuderia banner threw me.

I should have connected the BP logo & the fact that there was no name on the car...all my earlier shots of him
had no driver ID.
Damn, I wish I hadn't lost/thrown away those programmes!!


#6053 lyntonh

lyntonh
  • Member

  • 1,644 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 12 November 2011 - 22:48

Now that's settled....

Here are some more from 26th March 1972 Oran Park....
What looks like an invitation race for all-sorts....

Posted Image
Sorry about the pole (ah!, the price we photographers paid for the night races),
but it's my closest shot of Alan Moffat in the Escort, in a paint-scheme I don't remember!!

Posted Image
Alan Hamilton, Bill Brown & Norm Beechey

Posted Image
Next lap...obviously got him on the straight....there's no substitute for cubic inches!
(I do remember a day, watching John Basset in the Escort (BDA?), pass Beechey down that same straight.)

Posted Image
Barry Sharpe, Alan Moffat (understeering ?) & ?

Posted Image
Alan Moffat (understeering again)

Posted Image
Bill Brown & Wayne Rogerson

Edited by lyntonh, 12 February 2012 - 10:44.


#6054 ellrosso

ellrosso
  • Member

  • 1,616 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 12 November 2011 - 23:01

Was that colour scheme on the Moffat Escort from a trip to Macau?

#6055 Lola5000

Lola5000
  • Member

  • 1,664 posts
  • Joined: August 08

Posted 12 November 2011 - 23:21

Yes, Alan Hamilton is listed in the programme as the driver of that car.

Dale.

That car the ex Foley/Palmer/Hamilton and Mort cars is in Melbourne either being restored or about to be.

#6056 ellrosso

ellrosso
  • Member

  • 1,616 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 13 November 2011 - 00:30

Posted Image

Calder 1972. Pretty rare car with only 24 produced, including prototypes.



#6057 Lee Nicolle

Lee Nicolle
  • Member

  • 11,036 posts
  • Joined: July 08

Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:33

Posted Image

Calder 1972. Pretty rare car with only 24 produced, including prototypes.

With a future potential racecar parked behind it. Of wich there was at least 240000 potential 6 cylinder manual prototypes made!

#6058 Lola5000

Lola5000
  • Member

  • 1,664 posts
  • Joined: August 08

Posted 13 November 2011 - 07:43

Very long race history that Porsche,can we name its drivers?
Some were Foley,Jim Palmer,Hamilton and .....................

#6059 ellrosso

ellrosso
  • Member

  • 1,616 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:06

Aren't we talking about 2 different cars here...... I thought the Foley/Palmer car was a 911S. Hamilton's car in the pic is a 911R. Still, I'm no expert, I'll check my RCN collection - I know there is a story on it when Foley had it.

Advertisement

#6060 ellrosso

ellrosso
  • Member

  • 1,616 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:15

Yes, I just checked the Track test in RCN and the Foley car was a road 911S built into a race car at his Caringbah workshops. The Hamilton car featured is a specialist built race car of which Porsche built 20 customer cars.

#6061 Lola5000

Lola5000
  • Member

  • 1,664 posts
  • Joined: August 08

Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:19

Yes, I just checked the Track test in RCN and the Foley car was a road 911S built into a race car at his Caringbah workshops. The Hamilton car featured is a specialist built race car of which Porsche built 20 customer cars.

Different car Hamiltons 911R was an early car,the Foley as i said was bought by Hamilton in '72 when it returned from NZ.Years latter it was owned by Reg Mort,drivers include Leo G,Goss and John Harvey.Ian G might also have had a drive in it.

#6062 ellrosso

ellrosso
  • Member

  • 1,616 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:43

Do you know where the 911R ended up?

#6063 Lola5000

Lola5000
  • Member

  • 1,664 posts
  • Joined: August 08

Posted 13 November 2011 - 08:56

Do you know where the 911R ended up?

went to the US.About 10 years ago Bowdens bought it it now sits in there museum .

#6064 Team Result

Team Result
  • Member

  • 268 posts
  • Joined: March 07

Posted 13 November 2011 - 15:05

Without checking with Charlie I think his Moke only did one event, the Surfers 12 hour and then it went back to BMC from whom they had borrowed it.

I have an idea Doug Hicks in Victoria raced a Moke a few times, do any of our Victorian friends know about this ?


Lester McIntyre ran a Moke at Queensland tracks for a season or two. It also featured home-made side panels (required to comply with
sports car door regs).

#6065 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 13 November 2011 - 20:35

Originally posted by Lola5000
Different car Hamiltons 911R was an early car, the Foley as i said was bought by Hamilton in '72 when it returned from NZ. Years later it was owned by Reg Mort, drivers include Leo G, Goss and John Harvey. Ian G might also have had a drive in it.


And Peter Brock?

Edited by Ray Bell, 13 November 2011 - 20:36.


#6066 Lola5000

Lola5000
  • Member

  • 1,664 posts
  • Joined: August 08

Posted 13 November 2011 - 20:44

And Peter Brock?

Your right,I think at Calder or Hume Weir.

#6067 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 13 November 2011 - 21:32

I think also at Moron Park...

The car was white with an orange stripe, IIRC.

#6068 DJH

DJH
  • Member

  • 228 posts
  • Joined: June 08

Posted 13 November 2011 - 21:40

I remember Peter Brock in a Porsche at Oran Park. The front of the car was so low that the tyre had rubbed through the fibreglass flare.


Edited by DJH, 14 November 2011 - 11:32.


#6069 ed holly

ed holly
  • Member

  • 387 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 13 November 2011 - 22:22

Been a while since I loaded some more of the many Rod Stevens' photos.

These are all of the 1976 Amaroo Historic meeting on 25 January. Peter Schell kindly scanned the negatives that they came from. The captions are from the programme that Peter also photcopied for me.

Once again, if anyone wants higher res copies of them, then please let me know and I will email them to you with an address to Rod's family to thank.

There are about another 25 like this to come - plus about 40 motor bike ones which this meeting also had running.

Posted Image
Bob King Anzani Bugatti

Posted Image
Bob Beer Prad Alta

Posted Image
Graham Howard Lotus Mk VI

Posted Image
Ron Reid Sulman Singer and Graeme Snape BB Areil Spl

Posted Image
Ron Phillips Cooper Vincent

Posted Image
Tony Johns Austin 7 Special

#6070 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 14 November 2011 - 04:02

Good stuff, Ed, some cars I am familiar with.

#6071 ellrosso

ellrosso
  • Member

  • 1,616 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 14 November 2011 - 08:00

Don't know about Belinda Green but here is Brock with his then wife Michelle Downes and she does NOT appear happy to be at Baskerville in 1975! Bored....... could be more than that......

Posted Image

#6072 ed holly

ed holly
  • Member

  • 387 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 14 November 2011 - 08:59

More Rod Stevens photos Amaroo 1976. These photos are from the lunchtime parade of cars.

This was the first ever Historic Race meeting in Australia

Posted Image
Stan Rumble Cooper Climax, Ray Neely 1925 Rolls Royce Phantom, Rees MacKay MGTC must have been from the lunchtime parade, no helmets.

Posted Image
86 Ian Cummins Jaguar C-type, 42 listed as but obviously not Andie Chaleyer Alvis Speed 25, 5 John Medley Nota Formula Junior - John still competes in this car.

Posted Image
Help required with these please.

Posted Image
and these

Posted Image
these too

Posted Image
30 Mike Ryves Lotus 15 which was Paul Samuel's car now in the UK, 15 Harry Hitchin Salmson GP, 78 Rod Robertson MGTC spcl

Edited by ed holly, 14 November 2011 - 09:03.


#6073 AnnieOz

AnnieOz
  • Member

  • 67 posts
  • Joined: October 08

Posted 14 November 2011 - 09:12

Great shots. Thank you for enabling us to share.
All I can add is first shot - 43 an Alvis?

#6074 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:02

No. 142, the air cooled car, Bob Wilson.Scarab Triumph

No.14, Paul Chaleyer, MG TB Spl
No. 71, Doug Partington, Cigar MG

#6075 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 14 November 2011 - 10:05

Originally posted by ed holly
.....This was the first ever Historic Race meeting in Australia


First all-Historic race meeting in Australia...

Posted Image

30 Mike Ryves Lotus 15 which was Paul Samuel's car now in the UK, 15 Harry Hitchin Salmson GP, 78 Rod Robertson MGTC spcl


That would be either Mary Hitchin or (outside chance...) Peter Hitchin in the Salmson, while the hat at the bottom of the pic is on the head of Hank Northey.

Edited by Ray Bell, 14 November 2011 - 11:01.


#6076 Wirra

Wirra
  • Member

  • 1,326 posts
  • Joined: December 08

Posted 18 November 2011 - 06:42

Just posting some photos on the bike forum and came across this one I took of Gregg Hansford at Assen in '79.

Posted Image


#6077 ed holly

ed holly
  • Member

  • 387 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 20 November 2011 - 06:58

Some more Rod Steven's photos of the first ever Historic race meeting in Australia - Jan 1976 Amaroo Park.

Posted Image
28

Posted Image
29

Posted Image
33

Posted Image
34

Posted Image
35

Posted Image
36


#6078 ed holly

ed holly
  • Member

  • 387 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 20 November 2011 - 07:04

Posted Image
50

Posted Image
51

Posted Image
52

Posted Image
53

Posted Image
54

Posted Image
55

#6079 DanTra2858

DanTra2858
  • Member

  • 1,145 posts
  • Joined: May 10

Posted 21 November 2011 - 03:44

Some more Rod Steven's photos of the first ever Historic race meeting in Australia - Jan 1976 Amaroo Park.

Posted Image
29

Posted Image
34


Can any one identify the Motor Bike powered cars please.




Advertisement

#6080 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 21 November 2011 - 04:12

Top pic, the Austin Raleigh, bottom pic, Hank Northey, BMW Special.

#6081 DanTra2858

DanTra2858
  • Member

  • 1,145 posts
  • Joined: May 10

Posted 21 November 2011 - 06:10

Top pic, the Austin Raleigh, bottom pic, Hank Northey, BMW Special.


Thanks Dick, even tough I knew Hank in his later days I had never seen his cars.

#6082 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 21 November 2011 - 07:17

The current owner of the BMW Special is keen to know what diff was fitted to the car originally as the diff assembly is now missing from the car.

#6083 Wilyman

Wilyman
  • Member

  • 266 posts
  • Joined: March 06

Posted 21 November 2011 - 08:42

The current owner of the BMW Special is keen to know what diff was fitted to the car originally as the diff assembly is now missing from the car.



The BMW Special probably utilised the bikes shaft final drive ? Not a "diff" as such.

Edited by Wilyman, 21 November 2011 - 08:43.


#6084 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 21 November 2011 - 22:50

Didn't the car use Morris wheels?

If so, I wouldn't mind betting on a Morris diff...

#6085 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 22 November 2011 - 01:53

I has a De Dion back end so it would have used a self contained diff assembly, ie. without the axle tubes. The BMW is a possibility but you would think the bike unit would be a bit light for a car. Rear spring is a transverse leaf, front quarter elliptic leaves with radius rods wheels, brakes etc seem to be Morris as Ray correctly states.

#6086 ed holly

ed holly
  • Member

  • 387 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:12

Some more of Rod Steven's photos ... note the number below as a reference to the main photo file Peter schell did for me.


Posted Image
56

Posted Image
59

Posted Image
60

Posted Image
61

Posted Image
62

Posted Image
63

#6087 ed holly

ed holly
  • Member

  • 387 posts
  • Joined: June 04

Posted 22 November 2011 - 08:17

These are the final 6 of Rod's Amaroo photo set of cars ... lots more of his other photos yet to come ...

Posted Image
65

Posted Image
66

Posted Image
67

Posted Image
68

Posted Image
69

Posted Image
70

#6088 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 22 November 2011 - 09:27

Who is going to take the prize for naming all the cars and drivers ? I will name one, in pic no 68, car no. 63, the Nota Major driven by Ben Sellers, it is now in my garage and still going strong after a 50 year continuous racing career.

#6089 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 22 November 2011 - 11:06

Graham Howard in the Lotus 6... perhaps it's Noel Tuckey in the Ferrari...

The Alta, of course, is driven by Graeme Lowe, while John Medley is in the Nota. Both still have and compete in these cars.

#6090 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 22 November 2011 - 21:28

Sorry Ray, but Graeme Lowe's Alta was sold at auction to the US a few years ago, it was a great car, beautifully restored and driven by Graeme, a sad loss to Australia. Graeme still has an Alta though, a smaller sports car.

The famous John Medley shown above leading a Cooper Climax ( Stan Rumble's 1961 AGP winning car ) is featured on the front page of the current issue of the HSRCA magazine, The Oily Rag, and is there shown trying to shoulder a massive 1000kg Ford V8 Special out of the way with his little 400kg Nota, the result, a massive lock up by John.

A great series of photos Ed, pity you don't have any more.

#6091 Shane Bowden

Shane Bowden
  • Member

  • 105 posts
  • Joined: October 07

Posted 23 November 2011 - 02:07

Graham Howard in the Lotus 6... perhaps it's Noel Tuckey in the Ferrari...

The Alta, of course, is driven by Graeme Lowe, while John Medley is in the Nota. Both still have and compete in these cars.


Hi Dick, pic #56 car 83 is Bob Beer in PRAD 6 - PRAD Alta then PRAD Holden. Pic #68 car 83 is Ian Cummins C type.

Earlier pic #29 the nose of the car (73) in the background is PRAD 5 as purchased by me in 1975 competing in my first all historic meeting!

regards Shane



#6092 Gordon Graham

Gordon Graham
  • Member

  • 114 posts
  • Joined: May 07

Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:14

I have this shot of the car partially visible in pic 60, also at Amaroo. Anyone know which particular Cooper V-twin this is?

Posted Image

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

And as Shane Bowden points out, that is the Prad Holden

Posted Image

Uploaded with ImageShack.us

#6093 Dick Willis

Dick Willis
  • Member

  • 1,106 posts
  • Joined: February 03

Posted 23 November 2011 - 03:50

The Cooper Vincent belonged to Rob Phillips, MkV/49/51 but we haven't seen it in action for many years, I assume he stll owns it.

Shane, you had me fooled with your PRAD as it had a different nose on it then, similar to the Bob Beer car. You certainly go back a long way with it, pity you had such a long holiday away from racing.

#6094 Shane Bowden

Shane Bowden
  • Member

  • 105 posts
  • Joined: October 07

Posted 23 November 2011 - 05:15

Shane, you had me fooled with your PRAD as it had a different nose on it then, similar to the Bob Beer car. You certainly go back a long way with it, pity you had such a long holiday away from racing.


Hi Dick, yes the original pontoon guards and nose were panelled over in aluminium and bog. There was evidence of accident damage from the time it was used as a road car by the son of L J Hooker when he purchsed it in 1959 from Jorian Blanch. I understand from Clive Adams it was regularly dropped off by tow truck to his panel beating premises for repairs. I believe that this resulted in court action due to non payment for work performed!

We managed to save about 90% of the original alloy body by Stan Brown. Yes my long absence from racing was due to life getting in the way and other priorities.

Regards Shane

#6095 Wilyman

Wilyman
  • Member

  • 266 posts
  • Joined: March 06

Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:45

The current owner of the BMW Special is keen to know what diff was fitted to the car originally as the diff assembly is now missing from the car.



Graeme Snape. Cooper BMW may be able to answer this.

#6096 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 23 November 2011 - 09:58

Originally posted by Dick Willis
Sorry Ray, but Graeme Lowe's Alta was sold at auction to the US a few years ago, it was a great car, beautifully restored and driven by Graeme, a sad loss to Australia.....


Sorry? Is that all you can say?

I will never again see the gleaming chrome and nickel, the highly polished green paint? What a shame!

One hopes he kept the Healey motor and 203 front end it once wore. Could be the beginnings of a new life for it... or am I getting mixed up with Vulgarilla there? I'm sure the Alta had a 203 front end at least...

#6097 Ray Bell

Ray Bell
  • Member

  • 79,956 posts
  • Joined: December 99

Posted 23 November 2011 - 10:02

Originally posted by Dick Willis
I has a De Dion back end so it would have used a self contained diff assembly, ie. without the axle tubes. The BMW is a possibility but you would think the bike unit would be a bit light for a car. Rear spring is a transverse leaf, front quarter elliptic leaves with radius rods wheels, brakes etc seem to be Morris as Ray correctly states.


I'm thinking that, due to the similarities with the car he ran at the time, Bruce Polain might have taken note of these things...

And wouldn't Maurie Pearson be a possibility too? Though he might not still be around, I guess.

#6098 lyntonh

lyntonh
  • Member

  • 1,644 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 23 November 2011 - 13:09

For the Porsche lovers who just love seeing them dance...

Alan Hamilton in the 911R at Oran Park 26th March 1972
Posted Image

Edited by lyntonh, 12 February 2012 - 00:49.


#6099 lyntonh

lyntonh
  • Member

  • 1,644 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 23 November 2011 - 13:15

Oran Park 26th March 1972...

in the same race as Hamilton....Bill Brown, Barry Sharpe & Bruce Carey
Posted Image

In Series Production...John Goss finally succumbing to Colin Bond
Posted Image

Edited by lyntonh, 12 February 2012 - 00:50.


Advertisement

#6100 lyntonh

lyntonh
  • Member

  • 1,644 posts
  • Joined: April 10

Posted 23 November 2011 - 13:18

Two Random shots from Bathurst 1972....above the Elbow.....

First...Jim McKeown in the Alfa
Posted Image

Phil Ward
Posted Image

Edited by lyntonh, 12 February 2012 - 00:51.