John Ogier and Essex Racing Team
#1
Posted 08 June 2008 - 13:06
started Ogle design and the highlight was designing the Reliant Scimitar.
Further infos are most welcome !
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#2
Posted 08 June 2008 - 17:09
all research Willem Oosthoek.
#3
Posted 08 June 2008 - 19:01
#4
Posted 08 June 2008 - 19:51
Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
A former officer becoming farmer at Rough Hill Farm in East Chaningham , near Chelmsford ,
Further infos are most welcome !
I live quite near Chelmsford but I've never heard of East Chaningham
#5
Posted 08 June 2008 - 20:01
#6
Posted 09 June 2008 - 00:59
When Ron Tauranac Ralt cars began its 2nd era in Snelgar(spelling) Rd in Woking UK.he employed a young James Ogier,he would have been in his mid 20st and he was still their when i last left the UK shores in 1981.
We became friends and he told me that his father was the designer of the Reliant Scimitar. I meet him once when james took me to his London home in 1975. He married a girl that used to work in the store and make wire looms, etc for Raltcars later on when we move back into the old Brabham works at Newhaw. They had a son and eventually parted company, she married Irish Dave who worked for Theodore racing for many years ,and then i ran out of contact with him i also would like to know where he is too.
#7
Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:05
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Posted 09 June 2008 - 07:17
#9
Posted 09 June 2008 - 16:07
#10
Posted 12 June 2008 - 07:10
#11
Posted 12 June 2008 - 22:38
Jimmy in the Essex Racing Stable '2 VEV' - captured by Geoff Goddard at the Goodwood TT; The car was later reduced to rubble by Lucien Bianchi at Spa, and replaced in effect under the same identity with a reprofiled and lightened version which came down to us as '2 VEV/2'...
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DCN
#12
Posted 13 June 2008 - 07:13
Ogiers Astons wqere originally DB4GTs, not Zagatos
John
#13
Posted 13 June 2008 - 11:40
#14
Posted 13 June 2008 - 15:11
739WMB
#15
Posted 13 June 2008 - 15:55
#16
Posted 13 June 2008 - 16:41
Originally posted by Sharman
Doug - Ogiers Astons were originally DB4GTs, not Zagatos. John
So?
DCN
#17
Posted 13 June 2008 - 19:56
'Salvo' beat Clark to 3rd in '61 whose car suffered from an open bootlid, but it also seemed to lack 1 VEV's pace.
If anything the 1962 evocation of 2 VEV looked as if it was even worse handling than in its original guise and even with JC driving it was IIRC 3 seconds off Ireland's pole position GTO although significantly quicker than it had been the previous year.
They sounded great but were not as powerful as they should have been plus they were, despite the lightweight alloy body and all alloy engine, rather too heavy due to their very substantial steel chassis frame. The quoted weight in 1961 for a 'standard' car was 24.6 cwt, only marginally lighter than the DB4GT.
As for Ogier's DBRI/300 (DBR1/1) this was one of the original 1957 team cars and it retired at the Ring and Le Mans in 1961 but finished a worthy 5th in the 1962 Ring 1000 clicks driven by Cooper F1 team mates McLaren/Maggs.
#18
Posted 13 June 2008 - 21:07
#19
Posted 14 June 2008 - 06:18
First photo - a great moment for the team...Maggs, I believe, in DBR1/1 and Clark in the Lotus 23 lead at the start.
Second photo - Maggs in the Aston which he and McLaren drove to 4th OA.
Photos by Ted Langton-Adams, copyright Eric Faulks, from the book Tom Johnston and I have edited.
Vince H.
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#20
Posted 15 June 2008 - 12:23
That'll teach me to pay more attention, or wear better glasses!
#21
Posted 21 June 2008 - 00:03
Originally posted by Cirrus
I also remember James Ogier in the Ralt "Weylock Works" days. A little Googling has revealed that a James Ogier works at Silverstone Circuits - sounds like he'd be the right sort of age as well...
Thanks Alan your googling has made me happy i just last night received an e-mail from James Ogier The power of this forum is just amazing. I am planing to catch up with him in Sept this year in the UK.
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Posted 01 August 2008 - 19:20
#23
Posted 01 August 2008 - 20:05
The other may have been a second-hand T51
#24
Posted 03 August 2008 - 12:36
#25
Posted 03 August 2008 - 15:37
#26
Posted 04 August 2008 - 17:35
Originally posted by Paul Parker
I attended the 1961 and 1962 TTs and watched the Ogier Zagatos wallowing around like cabin cruisers in a heavy sea.
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If anything the 1962 evocation of 2 VEV looked as if it was even worse handling than in its original guise and even with JC driving it was IIRC 3 seconds off Ireland's pole position GTO although significantly quicker than it had been the previous year.
I too was at the 1962 TT.
A factor in my judgement of the event was that the GTOs made both the Astons and the Jaguars look like cart horses amongst thoroughbreds.
Not that it stops me again enjoying that picture of Clark...
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Posted 31 December 2008 - 17:43
#28
Posted 07 September 2009 - 15:11
#30
Posted 07 September 2009 - 19:11
#31
Posted 21 September 2009 - 16:25
John Ogier was friends with David Ogle and a director and chairman of his firm, Ogle Design , untill John himself died in a road crash like David Ogle earlier. The Ogle SX250 , a coupe bodied car based on the Daimler SP250 was designed and named for John Ogier.
It is more than likely that John was a money man for for David in the early days and probably turned his head toward car design and away from toasters!
On a separate note Sir John Whitmore was instrumental in getting the famous little Ogle Mini special off the ground. Ogle are still going and have designed some wide ranging and famous stuff. Worth looking them up sometime.
Another little bit of the mysterious Mr. Ogier !!
Niall
#32
Posted 21 September 2009 - 18:38
On behalf of member Hedenhammodels :
John Ogier was friends with David Ogle and a director and chairman of his firm, Ogle Design , untill John himself died in a road crash like David Ogle earlier. The Ogle SX250 , a coupe bodied car based on the Daimler SP250 was designed and named for John Ogier.
It is more than likely that John was a money man for for David in the early days and probably turned his head toward car design and away from toasters!
On a separate note Sir John Whitmore was instrumental in getting the famous little Ogle Mini special off the ground. Ogle are still going and have designed some wide ranging and famous stuff. Worth looking them up sometime.
Another little bit of the mysterious Mr. Ogier !!
Niall
Hi Niall and all
John Whitmore and John Ogier put money into David Ogle's car design and making venture, David Ogle Limited, and were directors. John Ogier went on to be an effective and enthusiastic Chairman of the company when it was renamed Ogle Design Ltd in 1966. Tom Karen was the managing director and chief designer.
The Ogle SX250 was privately commissioned by Boris Forter (a managing director of Helena Rubinstein), apparently the SX stood for Essex where John Ogier and John Whitmore were from.
Here's the Ogle SX250 today (Sadly, missing it's bumpers)
It was the car that Reliant acquired the rights to the body design and with some modifictions it later became the Reliant Scimitar GT.
Dave Poole
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 20:34
#34
Posted 04 January 2010 - 13:00
#35
Posted 26 May 2010 - 05:39
ESSEX RACING STABLE
#36
Posted 26 May 2010 - 10:07
#37
Posted 16 July 2019 - 17:04
Stephen
#38
Posted 16 July 2019 - 20:25
Stephen,
There are a few a photos in Graham Gauld's Toj John Tojeiro and his cars
Page 17 close up Tojeiro Jaguar at Rest and be Thankful. (with glasses)
page 27 standing next to the Tojeiro Climax at Le Mans. (without glasses) The reference for the photo is Gordon Wilkins
Page 24 Also a not so good one (in more ways than one) of John flying form his Tojeiro Jaguar at Stapleford Hill Climb. (Glasses probably fell off).
Rob
#39
Posted 17 July 2019 - 06:31
Still hoping there's a portrait type photo of him to be unearthed
Stephen