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craftverk
Originally posted by pRy


He was trying to put a brave face on it but you could tell he knew he messed up and only had himself to blame for it. I'm sure if he had the choice he wouldn't have been interviewed.

Now that's only speculation.

Lewis showed no where near the level of dissapointment we've seen him display at France or Turkey, judging from that alone I say he's just okay... though he knows he could've been faster, it hasn't given him a huge disadvantage. Especially if a wet race is expected.
ensign14
Originally posted by pingu666
his second attempt was more of a banker lap...

Yeah, he was much more within track limits. I guess pole was too risky, with Webber presumably light (and maybe Kimi too) he just wanted to be on the green for two, so to speak.
santori
I haven't seen this Edward Gorman article discussed yet, and I found this bit surprising:

It has also emerged that Anthony and, to a lesser extent, Lewis do not get on with key players at McLaren, among them Ron Dennis, the team principal, and Matt Bishop, the new head of communications. These broken relationships are going to be the source of increasing tension in the months and years ahead.

Have I missed something?
jesee
I can see the ravens are already cycling, and the guy is still kicking. Give it a rest boys...wait for the race tomorrow!
craftverk
Originally posted by santori
I haven't seen this Edward Gorman article discussed yet, and I found this bit surprising:

It has also emerged that Anthony and, to a lesser extent, Lewis do not get on with key players at McLaren, among them Ron Dennis, the team principal, and Matt Bishop, the new head of communications. These broken relationships are going to be the source of increasing tension in the months and years ahead.

Have I missed something?

Are the Times a reliable source?

I doubt it's true, especially if Lewis is committed to driving for McLaren for the rest of his career.
Panch
Maybe Lewis and his dad are trying to blackmail nr 1 status from them? lol.gif
undersquare
Originally posted by santori
I haven't seen this Edward Gorman article discussed yet, and I found this bit surprising:

It has also emerged that Anthony and, to a lesser extent, Lewis do not get on with key players at McLaren, among them Ron Dennis, the team principal, and Matt Bishop, the new head of communications. These broken relationships are going to be the source of increasing tension in the months and years ahead.

Have I missed something?


I did see a suggestion a month or more ago that Anthony and Ron weren't getting on 100%, but then I saw them together and they looked very friendly. Gorman's article was quite strongly spun against the Hamiltons I thought, "trophy girlfriend" and various other little digs, so maybe Anthony has been a bit sharp with Gorman at some point recently. I'd be amazed if Ron and Lewis have fallen out. Also although Ron and Anthony are both personalities who can be a bit inclined to crush others underfoot when the need arises, I rather thought they had a lot of respect for each other. So I don't believe it, on the basis of Gorman's unattributed mention, but I'll be watching for clues. Hopefully, it's just not true.
El_Capitán
Don't nobody mess with da homeboy!
ensign14
Originally posted by craftverk

Are the Times a reliable source?

Generally, yes, less so for motor racing writing, the real heavyweight authors are at the other qualities. Can't remember Gorman's record as a reporter though.
pingu666
it is a high pressure environment, anyways 4th isnt a disaster, the fact that people think it is indicates how stupidly hard it is to overtake in f1, and how anything less than perfect is a abomination.

on the plus side the red bulls have been poor off the start, and he has a chance to jump kimi, he could end up 2nd, and even first if heikki has a bad start...

ofcourse equaly likely he stays 4th/3rd or 5th if he gets a bad start, plus the normal risk of collision.

we dunno whats gonna happen, but thats why we go racing wink.gif
mstar
i read in the uk paper lewis saying he is going to get acing lessons from will smith apparently they are meeting up soon
i think you can bet ur house he will have a cameo role in a hollywood film soon

playboy lewis also be in the news of the world soon with some scandel or another thats for sure (maybe dropping his current GF and she reveals all that he has a little willy or something that sells papers roflmao.gif )

hehee
craftverk
Originally posted by pingu666
it is a high pressure environment, anyways 4th isnt a disaster, the fact that people think it is indicates how stupidly hard it is to overtake in f1, and how anything less than perfect is a abomination.

on the plus side the red bulls have been poor off the start, and he has a chance to jump kimi, he could end up 2nd, and even first if heikki has a bad start...

ofcourse equaly likely he stays 4th/3rd or 5th if he gets a bad start, plus the normal risk of collision.

we dunno whats gonna happen, but thats why we go racing wink.gif

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68902

"Heikki did a fantastic job today and deserves to be on pole position," he said. "Fourth isn't bad - I'm quite happy with it to be honest. The weather will be up and down but I'm looking forward to the race."


Judging from that I say it's looking good for Lewis, a certain podium if everything goes well. I doubt he'll pass Raikkonen at the start simply because he isn't on the racing line, but he's a good starter so I think he'll be on Kimi's tail, maybe even pass him if it's wet. A McLaren 1-2 is a very likely prospect imo.
El_Capitán
Originally posted by mstar
i read in the uk paper lewis saying he is going to get acing lessons from will smith apparently they are meeting up soon
i think you can bet ur house he will have a cameo role in a hollywood film soon

playboy lewis also be in the news of the world soon with some scandel or another thats for sure (maybe dropping his current GF and she reveals all that he has a little willy or something that sells papers roflmao.gif )

hehee



Lewis' career is most likely going the David Beckham route...
Chiara
New Manager for Hamilton? (to be taken with a pinch of salt as the source is Marca) wink.gif

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/splitte...n_08070802.html

(Motorsport-Total.com) - Bekommt Lewis Hamilton schon bald einen professionellen Manager? Nach Angaben der spanischen Zeitung 'Marca' könnte sich der McLaren-Mercedes-Superstar schon bald nicht mehr von seinem Vater Anthony beraten lassen, sondern sich einen externen Berater ins Boot holen. Bei dem neuen Manager soll es sich der Zeitung zufolge um Julian Jakobi handeln, der bereits mit Alain Prost, Ayrton Senna und Jacques Villeneuve zusammenarbeitete.

Noch im März dieses Jahres hatte Hamilton beteuert, dass die Personalunion Vater/Manager genau die richtige Konstellation für ihn sei. Anthony Hamilton erklärte noch von zwei Monaten: "Wir haben noch keinen Agenten getroffen, der uns etwas anbieten konnte, was wir nicht selber schaffen können."


It's in German by the way so you'll have to get your Google Translation onto it tongue.gif
Buttoneer
Interesting. Google translator thinks it says:
I am the light, the power and the glory. Praise be to me for I am the Messiah and Lord of all creation. Kneel before I, Lewis Hamilton, the true master of all space and time and ruler of the galaxy.
But that seems just so modest to me.
VoidNT
Thanks for your romantic translation, Buttoneer, German is too dominant and harsh-sounding language to me lol.gif
undersquare
Originally posted by Chiara
New Manager for Hamilton? (to be taken with a pinch of salt as the source is Marca) wink.gif

http://www.motorsport-total.com/f1/splitte...n_08070802.html



It's in German by the way so you'll have to get your Google Translation onto it tongue.gif


I found this story on crash.net too, apparently it's based on Anthony seen talking to Julian Jakobi at Silverstone, but Anthony has denied it's about him taking over. Who knows, maybe Jakobi was just asking if he could, pleeeese lol.gif
Buttoneer
His new mag is out.



(In case anyone wants to try their hand they can do so here but remember to host the result yourself as this site will not)
Mr. Integrity
Something I didn't understand, what was he thinking?
He could have stayed behind Alonso after he lapped Kimi. If he just wanted to lap Alonso he could have done so in the last lap as he was way quicker than him.
Well now if he loses the WDC by one point you could say that it was his fault. down.gif
PhillyF1Fan
this is silly, really.

Racing for a win, and having the pyschological triumphing of lapping a fierce competitor like Alonso was something he could not pass up.

It is still too early to start to think WDC, with 6 drivers having realistic chances.
Atreiu
1 point is not worth the risk of slowing down like that and losing concentration or getting involved in someone else's mess.
Mauseri
Originally posted by Mr. Integrity
Something I didn't understand, what was he thinking?
He could have stayed behind Alonso after he lapped Kimi. If he just wanted to lap Alonso he could have done so in the last lap as he was way quicker than him.
Well now if he loses the WDC by one point you could say that it was his fault. down.gif

I guess he isnt stupid enough to risk crashing with a KR who would try unlap ...

Actually I wonder why he had to interefere the battle of KR and FA in the first place... propably the prospect of lapping all HK KR and FA was too sweet to lift throttle lol.gif
Ricardo F1
Oh dear God. rolleyes.gif
jimm
well in the closing stages RB was very fast on the full rains and it was not clear if RB was going to stop so that might have made LH feel like he could not lose the time.
Apex
Since they're not on the same lap he isn't allowed to interfere with the Alonso-Räikkönen battle the way you are suggesting.
MikeTekRacing
yes, a penalty could have been received even if he was 1 lap up and not down on them. be sure kimi would have gived it ALL to pass him and hamilton would have looked really dumb had a crash occurred
however, i think it never crossed his mind.
Gilles4Ever
Originally posted by Mr. Integrity
Something I didn't understand, what was he thinking?
He could have stayed behind Alonso after he lapped Kimi. If he just wanted to lap Alonso he could have done so in the last lap as he was way quicker than him.
Well now if he loses the WDC by one point you could say that it was his fault. down.gif


You must be the person in your avatar, say one thing: "I believe in morals and being ethical, you must keep integrity above everything." while expecting Lewis to do the exact opposite. wink.gif

http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php...434#post3213434
Lazy Prodigy
Originally posted by Gilles4Ever


You must be the person in your avatar, say one thing: "I believe in morals and being ethical, you must keep integrity above everything." while expecting Lewis to do the exact opposite. wink.gif

http://forums.autosport.com/showthread.php...434#post3213434
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Yellow
Originally posted by craftverk

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68902

"Heikki did a fantastic job today and deserves to be on pole position," he said. "Fourth isn't bad - I'm quite happy with it to be honest. The weather will be up and down but I'm looking forward to the race."


Judging from that I say it's looking good for Lewis, a certain podium if everything goes well. I doubt he'll pass Raikkonen at the start simply because he isn't on the racing line, but he's a good starter so I think he'll be on Kimi's tail, maybe even pass him if it's wet. A McLaren 1-2 is a very likely prospect imo.


heikki isen't the same of last season... he drive worse on wet and on dry and he can't do nothing... maybe he stay bad in mclaren but he can fight neither aganist lewis nor aganist others drivers, we can see the overtake of kubica on him: it's the same way of lewis' overtake... he can't defend his position...
a great, heartbraking disappointement...

maybe dennis should think about substitute... vettel, rosberg, kubica, or massa if there will be the couple alonso-raikkonen...
RSNS
I'm going to address Hamilton's strengths and foibles.

His main strength is being fast. He is fast in the rain, too. But he seems to do less well when coming from behind: if he starts in the midfield he becomes error prone. Perhaps that is because he is sensitive to pressure.

This as a racing driver.

On the more psychological aspect - still as a racing driver, but more generally - he seems to me to believe in words. By this I mean that he believes himself when he says something patently improbable. This is a very big foible. He can loose contact with things and revert to creating enemies and injustices to justify his own weaknesses.

Be that as it may, I was extremely impressed by his driving in Donington. In 'intermediates' he was about as fast as Barrichello in 'extreme wets'. Barrichello being known as a very fast wet driver, I really think this means something.

,.-
Hablo
Next GP God Hamilton -> Hero to Zero. wave.gif
Yellow
Originally posted by RSNS

On the more psychological aspect - still as a racing driver, but more generally - he seems to me to believe in words. By this I mean that he believes himself when he says something patently improbable. This is a very big foible. He can loose contact with things and revert to creating enemies and injustices to justify his own weaknesses.
,.-


Hamilton is at second year in f1, he will mature himself but his words are an encouragement for his team... lewis know ferrari is faster than mclaren, but he want inspire his crew to victory and it's not easy... this imo...

Originally posted by Hablo
Next GP God Hamilton -> Hero to Zero. wave.gif


sure??? :-D
Owen
From Planet-F1.com:

Lewis Hamilton stood on the balcony of Goodwood House and vowed to bring the title "home for all of us."

The McLaren driver was part of the F1 contingent attending this past weekend's Goodwood Festival of Speed, where he put on a demonstration run in last year's McLaren MP4-22 for the thousands of fans attending the annual event.

And the show also gave Hamilton the chance to address his fans, who gathered below the balcony to hear him promise to do his best to become the first Brit since Damon Hill in 1996 to win the World title. "I'm not going to build up your hopes but just to let you know that I'm working as hard as I can to bring the Championship home for all of us - keep your fingers crossed," he said.

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Buttoneer
So now he's comparing himself to The Royal Family and Julius Caesar? Does this man's arrogance know no bounds?
Mika Mika
Originally posted by Buttoneer
So now he's comparing himself to The Royal Family and Julius Caesar? Does this man's arrogance know no bounds?


Royle Family more like

Owen
Originally posted by Buttoneer
So now he's comparing himself to The Royal Family and Julius Caesar? Does this man's arrogance know no bounds?


He's got charisma and he actually acknowledges the support from the fans he's getting. Good on him. up.gif
Obi Offiah
Originally posted by RSNS
Be that as it may, I was extremely impressed by his driving in [B]Donington. In 'intermediates' he was about as fast as Barrichello in 'extreme wets'. Barrichello being known as a very fast wet driver, I really think this means something.

,.- [/B]


RSNS, I think your a couple of years too early with that post ;) .

Obi
holiday
Originally posted by prty



Holy shit! eek.gif eek.gif eek.gif Did Marcas journos have holidays then?
Buttoneer
Lewis versus Learjet

I hope this doesn't mean he thinks he's Superman.

Autosport has the story up here for those who can bear to read about him.
glorius&victorius
Gotta love seeing Lil Lewis posing as the business man up.gif

http://theessentialist.blogspot.com/2008/0...ets-ad-not.html


I thank God for giving us Lewis. I am enjoying following a F1 driver again.

In the post-Senna era... Michael was too boring, and Alonso belongs to the Spaniards.

But Lewis.... he is here for all of us up.gif
undersquare
Originally posted by glorius&victorius
Gotta love seeing Lil Lewis posing as the business man up.gif

http://theessentialist.blogspot.com/2008/0...ets-ad-not.html



A weak sneer at Bombardier from back in March, which didn't even get any comments on its own site. Scraping the barrel, aren't you? rolleyes.gif
SlateGray
Originally posted by glorius&victorius
Lewis is here for all of us up.gif


Do you know what colour sneakers Lewis likes best?
What did Lewis have for breakfast on the Sunday of the British GP?
Can you tell me how I can join the Lewis fawning fan-child club, and do I get an autographed photo of Lewis for my bed table?
Does anyone know where I can get a pair of Lewis brand jam jams?

smile.gif

All kidding aside I support proven drivers, guys that can get the job done when it really counts, guys like Alonso, Kimi, Jacques, Mika, Senna, Prost, and even M Schumacher (Hamilton has me seeing Schumacher in a whole new light). Drivers that place driving above stardom, guys that let their world championship driving do the talking. Guys that are not vainglorious blowhards that manage to collapse when it is time to shine. If Hamilton can get his house in order and win a championship without telling us all about how great and Senna like it will be before hand, he will become eligible for consideration as a I driver I might support. not worried cuz I don’t see Lewis winning a WDC in the new millennia

Alonso in a Ferrari will put an end to Lewis’s chances of ever winning a WDC so Lewis better make hay this season while Ferrari are uncharacteristically underachieving.
BMW4life
Originally Posted by SlateGray

All kidding aside I support proven drivers, guys that can get the job done when it really counts, guys like Alonso, Kimi, Jacques, Mika, Senna, Prost, and even M Schumacher (Hamilton has me seeing Schumacher in a whole new light). Drivers that place driving above stardom, guys that let their world championship driving do the talking.


...and Senna (I saw myself driving around the track as I mysteriously floated above the car) fit that mold? confused.gif
F575 GTC
Originally posted by Buttoneer
Lewis versus Learjet


A Learjet? Even Albers raced against an F-16! lol.gif
Buttoneer
Originally posted by F575 GTC


A Learjet? Even Albers raced against an F-16! lol.gif
On foot?
F575 GTC
Originally posted by Buttoneer
On foot?


rolleyes.gif

Yes, he was on foot. Beat it by quite a distance too.
noikeee
Originally posted by holiday


Holy shit! eek.gif eek.gif eek.gif Did Marcas journos have holidays then?


Tbh that picture is a little freaky. That's really LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of attention for Alonso there. I wonder what Alonso himself would do if he looked at that... hide under his bed, and only sneak out once in a while to check if any crazy fans or haters would be around?
holiday
Originally posted by glorius&victorius
In the post-Senna era... Michael was too boring, and Alonso belongs to the Spaniards.

Lewis is here for all of us up.gif


Like Kellogs Cornflakes?

Real in-depth analysis from you, that is.
holiday
Originally posted by paranoik0
That's really LOTS AND LOTS AND LOTS of attention for Alonso there.


Basically, I have no problem with that. A guy who was partly responsible for a 100, 000 000 fee for his employer has earned his fifteen minutes hard and well.
Buttoneer
Originally posted by F575 GTC


rolleyes.gif

Yes, he was on foot. Beat it by quite a distance too.
Then that obviously shows Lewis up for the no-hoper he is.
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