Alan Cox
Feb 2 2009, 10:29
Oulton Park Spring Trophy F2 meeting on the 3rd April 1965. The heyday of Mini Cooper racing.
Harry Ratcliffe's British Vita Cooper 'S'
The British Vita transporter,
and the lovely Anita Taylor with her Cooper 'S' entered by the Automobile Racing Drivers' School
An early bath for John Fitzpatrick's Broadspeed entry
275 GTB-4
Feb 2 2009, 10:46
Evocative is too mild a word....there has to be a better description
bradbury west
Feb 2 2009, 12:18
Alan, very many thanks for the Harry Ratcliffe pictures. That is Harry lighting his pipe alongside the ramps in the mini-onto-transporter shot.
Roger Lund
Alan Cox
Feb 2 2009, 12:19
Some in-car shots featuring various Oulton Park landmarks. The period adverts such as Esso Extra, Mintex, Avon etc are all that's needed to transport me back to 1965.
From the start, the first corner is Old Hall...
To most TNFers, I suspect that Shell Oils bend will, forever, be "Esso" - and here is the reason why.
After cresting Deer Leap, the Motor Bridge loomed large before heading for the finish line..
elansprint72
Feb 2 2009, 12:59
Superb photos; particularly like the male models showing off the latest fruits of their Mum's knitting.
Presumably John Fitpatick's head was the only thing that kept the roof up in that crash?
Look forward to seeing more.
Alan Cox
Feb 2 2009, 20:39
Oulton Park 1965 - Saloon and GT carnage at Old Hall
Henlys of Chester's ever-present tow truck clears up the debris
Ian McDougall's Broadspeed Mini leads the Mini of Bob Smith 24th April 1965
Anglias down the Avenue
A mixed Saloon/GT field
Any other identities would be welcomed.
terry mcgrath
Feb 3 2009, 05:51
good to see a jaguar out in front!
Auroraf1
Feb 3 2009, 10:31
Originally posted by Peter Darley
Geoff Murdoch, Competitions Manager of Esso
I have been informed that it is Jack Stanley erstwhile Clerk of Course with BRSCC.
Peter Darley
Feb 3 2009, 12:09
Originally posted by Auroraf1
I have been informed that it is Jack Stanley erstwhile Clerk of Course with BRSCC.
I stand by my original ID.
You can check out comparision photos of Geoff Murdoch on Pp 21,117,140 and 212 of my book
Peter Darley
JIm Clark- Life at Team Lotus
Alan Cox
Feb 4 2009, 10:13
Gold Cup meeting, Oulton Park September 1967
Chris Craft - Superspeed Anglia crests Deer Leap
John Fitzpatrick's Broadspeed version
Tony Lanfranchi and Bernard Unett's Alan Fraser Imps sandwich, I think, Chris Montague's Mini
...and everyone's saloon car hero, Jim Clark, from the 1965 Gold Cup meeting
glyn parham
Feb 4 2009, 11:42
Anglias down the Avenue
Could the white Anglia be that of Terry Drury? I only ask because being a regular at Brands Hatch at the time I can remember the car quite well and it just looks right. However I am also sure that there were drivers in the North East doing similar things to their cars as Terry was.
glyn
Stephen W
Feb 4 2009, 11:46
Originally posted by glyn parham
[B] However I am also sure that there were drivers in the North East doing similar things to their cars as Terry was.
glyn [/B]
I am sure they were but they would more than likely have been racing at Croft.
bradbury west
Feb 4 2009, 13:50
Originally posted by Stephen W
I am sure they were but they would more than likely have been racing at Croft.
[/B]
And, since they were much farther away from the Saloon Car Chship rounds, probably running with 1650/1720cc Twin Cams,- even 1820cc later- qv the Perdal Anglia etc, as most of the clubbies ran to group 3 regs, much freer etc
Roger Lund
glyn parham
Feb 5 2009, 12:16
I am sure they were but they would more than likely have been racing at Croft.
Thank you Steve.
My only excuse is that despite having a Geography O level I also have dab bose of flu and cannot coherently remember my North East from my North West this week.
Off to write out 100 times "don't post when feeling under the weather"
glyn
PS - None of you Oulton experts have found the answer yet, must be because everyone is back at work!
EDWARD FITZGERALD
Feb 5 2009, 13:31
I will send Terry Drury the photo for his comments .
Morris S
Feb 5 2009, 21:31
Originally posted by Alan Cox
Gold Cup meeting, Oulton Park September 1967
Chris Craft - Superspeed Anglia crests Deer Leap
Great pics, that's Steve Neal behind in the blue Arden Equipe Mini, who didn't have long to wait for a Cooper works drive the year later.
Alan Cox
Feb 8 2009, 21:11
1964 Oulton Park Gold Cup - 2nd place
1965 Gold Cup - pit lane (one of my favourite Eddie Whitham pics)
Lodge Corner exit - what a pretty little car the Lotus 35 was
Jim's 1965 Ron Harris teammate, Peter Revson, ends his race at Lodge
Club racing saloon legend, Nick Brittan, with his famous "Green Bean" Anglia from 1965.
elansprint72
Feb 8 2009, 23:18
Alan,
Eddie's colour photos are superb; could you give some tech details, eg film and equipment used?
Steve O'Brien
Feb 9 2009, 08:56
[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Alan Cox
[B]1964 Oulton Park Gold Cup - 2nd place
1965 Gold Cup - pit lane (one of my favourite Eddie Whitham pics)
Lodge Corner exit - what a pretty little car the Lotus 35 was
Im sure Jim Clark had a problem on his first lap in this race and fought his way back from near the back to finish second I was at that meeting with my father who was racing in the saloon race in his Lotus Cortina I may be wrong on this old grey matter thing,
Alan Cox
Feb 9 2009, 09:19
Steve, in the 1964 race, which is the top picture, Jim did, indeed, finish second but in the 1965 race (bottom 2 photos) he only managed to finish sixth.
Steve O'Brien
Feb 9 2009, 09:27
Told you its the grey matter it was 1965 that my dad raced the Cortina I remember he had a bump just after Old Hall I think someone spun in front of him he slowed but someone hit him from behind and pushed him into the car in front, I remember him coming into the pits with water coming out of the rad he put some chewing gum over the hole topped it up and shot back out.
Stephen W
Feb 9 2009, 09:30
Originally posted by Alan Cox
Steve, in the 1964 race, which is the top picture, Jim did, indeed, finish second but in the 1965 race (bottom 2 photos) he only managed to finish sixth.
That's sixth after rejoining in last place. It was the final round of the British F2 championship and Clark needed just one point to secure the title. In my opinion it was one of the best ever recovery drives I have ever seen yet hardly ever gets a mention!
Steve O'Brien
Feb 9 2009, 09:33
It was fantastic to watch I was standing on that little stand just before Old Hall with my father.
The brilliant colours and sharpness of these photogaraphs is quite extraordinary.
Alan Cox
Feb 9 2009, 15:20
Originally posted by elansprint72
Eddie's colour photos are superb; could you give some tech details, eg film and equipment used?
I have received the following info from Eddie:
Hi Alan.
At the time I used mainly Kodak Ektachrome Transparency film and I think it was either 200 or 100 ASA. The camera was a Pentax (35mm and I recall it being small about the same size as the Olympus OM series cameras) with a standard Takumar (50mm) and I later bought a 100mm Takumar lens (the best lens I have ever owned) This was the equipment I used for work and for personal use as the Warrington Guardian in those days did not provide cameras they only paid (begrudgingly) for the repairs. I paid £25 for the camera sometime in the mid 1960's and it came with a light meter that fitted onto the hot shoe (it wasn't very accurate and I hardly used it). By this time in my career I long since learned how to guess the correct exposures and distances (this is something that modern day photographers have never done). It was manual focus and when I sold it many years later I got £25 for it. The chap who bought it had it until he died a couple of years ago and it was still working well.
Best wishes Eddie
It just shows that, if you are a talented photographer, you never had to spend the earth to get results.
Fantastic pictures; thanks for posting them.
I remember seeing all these cars racing in the UK and in Europe........................
Alan Cox
Feb 10 2009, 15:44
Phil Rainford
Feb 10 2009, 17:11
[QUOTE]
Originally posted by Alan Cox
[B]A few more brilliant shots from Eddie's Coniston collection
Wow
Kind regards
Phil
bradbury west
Feb 10 2009, 18:40
Originally posted by Alan Cox
[B]A few more brilliant shots from Eddie's Coniston collection
http://s276.photobucket.com/albums/kk14/as...onistonJan1.jpg[/IMG]
A certain air of melancholy foreboding
Roger Lund
Doug Nye
Feb 10 2009, 19:11
Chill, deep, water - still a wonderful thread. Great, great stuff. Thank you.
DCN
john t
Feb 10 2009, 19:54
Kodak Ektachrome was new in 1967 and was in fact 100 ASA. Kodachrome was the established slide film of the time but slightly 'slower' at 64 ASA. In those days Ektachrome had a hint of a bluish cast and Kodachrome leaned towards magenta. I too am amazed at the quality having been used to the black and white newspaper photos of the day. Wonderful images.
Alan Cox
Feb 10 2009, 22:53
I'm pleased that you are all continuing to enjoy Eddie's marvellous photographs as much as I am in posting them on his behalf. here is one final one of the craft in motion.
sterling49
Feb 10 2009, 22:56
Fantasic photos Alan, depicts the time so well, takes me way back, every photo that Eddie took is a gem
BT 35-8
Feb 10 2009, 23:38
Simply breathtaking photo's especially to someone that lives on the other side [ bottom ] of the world.
Bryan Miller.
275 GTB-4
Feb 11 2009, 02:37
Originally posted by john t
Kodak Ektachrome was new in 1967 and was in fact 100 ASA. Kodachrome was the established slide film of the time but slightly 'slower' at 64 ASA. In those days Ektachrome had a hint of a bluish cast and Kodachrome leaned towards magenta. I too am amazed at the quality having been used to the black and white newspaper photos of the day. Wonderful images.
I seem to recall the blue caste was to compensate for the flashguns light colour available at the time??
Paul Hurdsfield
Feb 11 2009, 07:48
Those are the most amazing shots I've ever seen of Bluebird and DC. Growing up in the fifties Land and Water Speed Record Breaking was BIG and none bigger than DC
The old newsreel films of Bluebird, the Green Monster and the Blue Flame were fantastic, but nothing can touch these Photo's.
Paul Hurdsfield
Feb 11 2009, 07:53
Originally posted by john t
Kodak Ektachrome was new in 1967 and was in fact 100 ASA. Kodachrome was the established slide film of the time but slightly 'slower' at 64 ASA. In those days Ektachrome had a hint of a bluish cast and Kodachrome leaned towards magenta. I too am amazed at the quality having been used to the black and white newspaper photos of the day. Wonderful images.
Yep Ektachrome and E6 chemicals used to keep Amateurs like me happy for hours on end
Graham Gauld
Feb 11 2009, 07:59
AuroraF1
reference your post about a week ago the man talking to Graham Hill IS GEOFF MURDOCH OF ESSO !!!!!
Auroraf1
Feb 11 2009, 11:13
Hi Graham
I was quite happy to be corrected the first time.
I was talking to the chap at the weekend, who mistook the two.
There is another Eddie Photo (which I would love to post, but still haven't figured out how too, maybe Alan could help) with Jack Standley squatting beside Jackie Stewart in a very similar pose. Comparing the two it is easy to see where the mistake came from.
Cheers
Phil
Alan Cox
Feb 11 2009, 12:26
I presume this is the photo to which Phil refers - 1967 Gold Cup
Auroraf1
Feb 11 2009, 12:37
That's the one thanks Alan.
I wonder if the young guy getting the autograph is a TNFer now?
sheppane
Feb 11 2009, 23:08
The Campbell / Bluebird pictures by Eddie Whitham are nothing short of works of art. Thanks so much for sharing them with us. What plans does Eddie have for them?
For others that have enjoyed the pics, they were taken on the 14th December 66, some 3 weeks before the terrible accident, and only 1 day after Campbell had collided with a seagul. The dent on the rear left spar is the result of that incident. K7 achieved just over 260 mph that day, fuel starvation robbing the BS Orpheus of max power, and a > 300mph top speed for Campbell. That is the reason behind DMC's dejected look as he stands on the stern as K7 is winched back into the boat house.
Alan Cox
Feb 12 2009, 20:42
Thanks for the detail about the date that the photos were taken, sheppane. I had no way of narrowing it down to a specific day other than to rely on somebody here knowing. Success!
Giraffe
Feb 12 2009, 20:52
I have memories as a 12 year old of watching Cambell's practice runs from Atkinson Grounds; we were houseguests of the Blackburn family who owned it at the time and who had a basketweave company called "Somic"; it's now National Trust property. It was truly exciting to see Bluebird from our jetty.
My other rather vague memory was seeing Donald's E-Type Jag parked outside the Sun Inn (I think) for some considerable time after his accident.....very poignant for a young boy.
Phil Rainford
Feb 12 2009, 21:57
Originally posted by Giraffe
My other rather vague memory was seeing Donald's E-Type Jag parked outside the Sun Inn (I think) for some considerable time after his accident.....very poignant for a young boy. [/B]
I remember reading that the sight of Gilles Villeneuve's helicopter still at Zolder on the Monday morning was a stark reminder of the tragic event that had occured during the Grand Prix weekend.
Kind regards
Phil
275 GTB-4
Feb 15 2009, 11:50
Originally posted by Alan Cox
I'm pleased that you are all continuing to enjoy Eddie's marvellous photographs as much as I am in posting them on his behalf. here is one final one of the craft in motion.
Outstanding picture....so surreal...just fabulous
Giraffe
Feb 15 2009, 15:23
Originally posted by Alan Cox
I'm pleased that you are all continuing to enjoy Eddie's marvellous photographs as much as I am in posting them on his behalf. here is one final one of the craft in motion.
Eddie's photo's also bring back memories of the Lakes as they were in those days; an untouched exquisite gem. The M6 hadn't ventured that far North, and people were nowhere near as mobile as today as car ownership was still fairly limited. Donald's runs attracted very little attention by today's standards, and spectators were largely restricted to passers by. You also never really could be sure when Donald and Bluebird would be there as it was not advertised, and pre-dated commercial events of this nature today.
When I went to stay at Atkison Grounds, my first question would always be is Donald about with the Bluebird?
bradbury west
Feb 22 2009, 16:06
Originally posted by Alan Cox
Oulton Park 1965 - Saloon and GT carnage at Old Hall
A mixed Saloon/GT field
Any other identities would be welcomed.
Alan, the best? I can come up with for this is the L&CCC meeting 31.7.65
Pick your own numbers from the picture etc.
I think the Britten Anglia is at the BARC meeting on May 29 1965, and I am confused by the 2 Anglias in the wet. Possibly Howard Fawsitt in his 1800cc device and Alan Peer, still 1650cc? Sterling? at the same meeting, or Roger Swanton and Alan Peer at the BARC August 21 meeting, but I cannot find a wet race report so far.
Any more ideas? There are no relevant pictures in Derek Lawson's tomes based IIRC from A.Sport, but will check my new set.
Roger Lund
Alan Cox
Feb 22 2009, 16:22
Thanks for your research, Roger. Looks likely that that is the meeting. I see that the previously discussed George Malcolm Fleming Humble was present with his E Type, as well as Anthony Bamford with a JCB Elan.
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