Bernd Rosemeyer
Aug 15 2008, 18:01
http://www.theherald.co.uk/search/display....politicking.php
"I am not surprised Sebastien has been given an opening in F1, but he shouldn't have gotten there before me," he said. "You can't ignore the fact that there are a lot of politics in this business and it helps your prospects if you live in Europe or in the Middle East , because Formula One is heading over there and it clearly helps raise interest in the emerging countries if they have their own drivers to cheer on.
Since Vettel is a firm figure in F1, where does that leave Di Resta? Will he make it into F1 in the future? Does he have what it takes? Is he right that Europeans and Middle Eastern have it easier to enter F1? How many Middle Easterners are in F1, if any?
pingu666
Aug 15 2008, 19:30
its always been the same..
undersquare
Aug 15 2008, 19:37
It's a problem for him that Merc only have one team in F1. Also the record of DTM drivers moving to F1 is all bad isn't it? As far as I can think, Jan Magnussen and Gary Paffet. Anyone else?
Bernd Rosemeyer
Aug 15 2008, 19:44
I think Giancarlo Fisichella.
Maximus
Aug 15 2008, 19:50
Originally posted by undersquare
It's a problem for him that Merc only have one team in F1. Also the record of DTM drivers moving to F1 is all bad isn't it? As far as I can think, Jan Magnussen and Gary Paffet. Anyone else?
Christijan Albers, now that was all bad indeed
undersquare
Aug 15 2008, 19:59
Originally posted by Bernd Rosemeyer
I think Giancarlo Fisichella.
Yes you're right. And yes Maximus, Albers was a front-runner in DTM
Bloggsworth
Aug 15 2008, 20:05
No chance.
noikeee
Aug 15 2008, 23:13
Paul doesn't live in Europe?
He should have been given a chance with F1 in testing at least, though.
undersquare
Aug 15 2008, 23:23
Presumably having won F3 Euroseries in 06 he really needed to do GP2 in 07. Anyone know why he didn't?
se7en_24
Aug 16 2008, 00:57
Originally posted by undersquare
Yes you're right. And yes Maximus, Albers was a front-runner in DTM
Albers was flattered in one season of DTM with an extremely strong Mercedes and no decent teammates, only an underperforming Schneider. The following year when Albers was the de-facto number 1 at Mercedes he was blown away by Paffett who had been given an up to date car.
Bloggsworth
Aug 16 2008, 09:30
Originally posted by undersquare
Presumably having won F3 Euroseries in 06 he really needed to do GP2 in 07. Anyone know why he didn't?
He's British, so no sponsorship............................
Jerome
Aug 16 2008, 10:59
Originally posted by se7en_24
Albers was flattered in one season of DTM with an extremely strong Mercedes and no decent teammates, only an underperforming Schneider. The following year when Albers was the de-facto number 1 at Mercedes he was blown away by Paffett who had been given an up to date car.
Perhaps. Or perhaps Albers was just good in DTM and sucked in F1. There aren't always explanations why someone shines in one series and suck in another series. Albers was really good in F3 also, but sucked in Formula 3000.
santori
Aug 16 2008, 11:29
If only he'd been born Malian.
santori
Aug 16 2008, 11:30
p.s. I thought Albers first year in F1 was pretty good.
potmotr
Aug 16 2008, 11:30
Didn't Juan Pablo-Montoya have a DTM race. As did Michael Schumacher...
Andrew Ford &F1
Aug 16 2008, 12:14
Originally posted by santori
p.s. I thought Albers first year in F1 was pretty good.
So did I. And the Dutchman did not perfrom that bad during 2006. But then, having not been noticed by any stronger teams, he started to make silly mistakes. It's always hard to motivate oneself, having spent 2 years in the worst cars...
Jerome
Aug 16 2008, 18:16
With some drivers - like Albers - it's a bit like the Peter Principle. Which states: 'Everybody keeps being promoted untill they reach a level that they can't controll.' Albers first tests in F1 were awfull. Really, really slow. Then he raised his game. And raised his game. Then he couldn't grow anymore, and his highest level was not high enough. Bad luck, good try.
But it can also be different. Everybody assumes that Hamilton was THAT good in his first year, he can only grow and grow. But I am not completely sure. Hamilton has tested so much, both in real life as in the sim, that perhaps he quite close to his maximum potential. Only time can tell.
ezequiel
Aug 16 2008, 18:40
Originally posted by Bernd Rosemeyer
http://www.theherald.co.uk/search/display....politicking.php
Since Vettel is a firm figure in F1, where does that leave Di Resta? Will he make it into F1 in the future? Does he have what it takes? Is he right that Europeans and Middle Eastern have it easier to enter F1? How many Middle Easterners are in F1, if any?
Paul Di Resta really deserved a chance to keep goin' up in single-seater series like GP2 and eventually F1 but he's just on ef several other talented drivers with no sponsorship, but not just that, without 'political/economical' importance for F1. In business terms, F1 doesn't need another British driver. Something similar happens with Swedish drivers (Wirdheim, Danielsson...) or Argentine drivers (López, Álvarez). Sweden has no importance for the F1 business. The same about Argentina (I can remember right now two Argentine drivers who were dropped not casually in favor of Brazilian ones: Fontana was very close to a deal with Tyrrell in 1998 ´til that Rossett appeared, and López was dropped only a few weeks before his contract ended from Renault (at least they could have told him before so he can look for other opportunities with time) and replaced by Piquet in 2007)
Generally I agree, though I would argue that Lopez was dropped by Renault more because of the repair bill they were footing in GP2 than for reasons of nationality.
Di Resta just didn't have cash to go to GP2.
Spunout
Aug 16 2008, 22:13
Originally posted by ezequiel
Paul Di Resta really deserved a chance to keep goin' up in single-seater series like GP2 and eventually F1 but he's just on ef several other talented drivers with no sponsorship, but not just that, without 'political/economical' importance for F1. In business terms, F1 doesn't need another British driver. Something similar happens with Swedish drivers (Wirdheim, Danielsson...) or Argentine drivers (López, Álvarez). Sweden has no importance for the F1 business. The same about Argentina (I can remember right now two Argentine drivers who were dropped not casually in favor of Brazilian ones: Fontana was very close to a deal with Tyrrell in 1998 ´til that Rossett appeared, and López was dropped only a few weeks before his contract ended from Renault (at least they could have told him before so he can look for other opportunities with time) and replaced by Piquet in 2007)
How much importance does Finland have?
Very little, but relative to British drivers, there are only a few really great Finnish drivers that make it through the pipeline. In open wheel, there's currently what, Raikkonen, Kovalainen, Mustonen and Maki from F1 to F3? Now count the British drivers. It makes a difference in acquiring sponsorship.
BMW_F1
Aug 17 2008, 01:00
Formula 3 Euro Series 2006
View: Teams| Stats | Cars | Birthdates
1 Paul Di Resta 20 races. 5 wins. 5 pole positions. 9 podiums. 1 fastest lap. 86
2 Sebastian Vettel 20 races. 4 wins. 1 pole positions. 9 podiums. 5 fastest laps. 75
3 Kohei Hirate 20 races. 1 win. 0 pole positions. 5 podiums. 2 fastest laps. 61
4 Esteban Guerrieri 19 races. 2 wins. 2 pole positions. 6 podiums. 2 fastest laps. 58
5 Richard Antinucci 19 races. 2 wins. 0 pole positions. 5 podiums. 0 fastest laps. 38
6 Giedo van der Garde 20 races. 1 win. 2 pole positions. 4 podiums. 0 fastest laps. 37
7 Kazuki Nakajima 20 races. 1 win. 0 pole positions. 4 podiums. 3 fastest laps. 36
8 Kamui Kobayashi 19 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 3 podiums. 1 fastest lap. 34
9 Guillaume Moreau 20 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 2 podiums. 0 fastest laps. 32
Jonathan Summerton 20 races. 1 win. 0 pole positions. 3 podiums. 0 fastest laps. 32
11 Sébastien Buemi 20 races. 1 win. 0 pole positions. 3 podiums. 6 fastest laps. 31
Charlie Kimball 20 races. 1 win. 0 pole positions. 3 podiums. 0 fastest laps. 31
13 Romain Grosjean 20 races. 0 wins. 0 pole positions. 1 podium. 0 fastest laps. 19
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