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stuavant

Sep 20 2008, 22:27

Originally posted by fines

Yes, there was! April 10, won by KR! Sadly, it was the race in which "Kojak" Guido Paci died.

And no international 250 race either... :\

Little known facts about Paci..firstly he always had beautiful girls hanging off him and he always had a shot of whisky before setting out onto the track..!!!!

Could'nt believe it when i first saw him down a shot.

mfd

Sep 20 2008, 23:10

Originally posted by fil2.8
Hi Phil

I just realised I did post #1000

back on P25. Here's to more...

subh

Sep 20 2008, 23:21

Originally posted by mfd

I just realised I did post #1000 back on P25. Here's to more...

I’m really hoping I get #1003

PaulMB

Sep 21 2008, 05:42

Originally posted by subh

It looks like the Imola 200 ran until 1987:
http://racingmemo.free.fr/M%20COURSES%20IN...OTO%20IMOLA.htm

You’re right, there is no support race listed for that year. The 100-mile race must have been part of some other event. I’ll have to ask for a date, which might help.

Just looking at this Imola page and noticed that my bike won in 1987, mind you it was at Misano and not Imola, and it was billed as the TTF1 race and not the Imola 200!!

1004?

fines

Sep 21 2008, 08:07

Originally posted by picblanc

1977. and errr!!..... Silverstone (again!!)

Rats, as I shut down the compooter last night I was thinking, no British GP in '76!!! No British GP!!!

Oh, and I thought I'd save the time to type out Silverstone! :yawn:

#1005

fines

Sep 21 2008, 08:12

There were in fact supporting races for the Italian Championship, with the 250 won by Paolo Ferretti, iirc (I'm not going to drag out the old magazine again). I just checked, and the Italians were singularly unimpressive in the 250cc World Championship those days!

#1006

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 08:21

Originally posted by mfd

I just realised I did post #1000 back on P25. Here's to more...

I guess that makes me (1) 007

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 08:56

Originally posted by LamboNZ

Not sure Mike, this pic doesn't really conclude either way.

That pic looks like an earlier model? 1973-5?

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 08:59

Originally posted by stuavant

Little known facts about Paci..firstly he always had beautiful girls hanging off him and he always had a shot of whisky before setting out onto the track..!!!! Could'nt believe it when i first saw him down a shot.

If I remember correctly he was shaven headed? and wasn't he also once an Italian Airforce pilot? (may be more than once!!

)

LamboNZ

Sep 21 2008, 09:05

Originally posted by fil2.8

I guess that makes me (1) 007

(1)= uni, 007= Bond} = Uni Bond, sounds a bit of a sticky one Phil!

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 09:06

Morning/evening all...WWW? easyish?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 09:09

Originally posted by LamboNZ

(1)= uni, 007= Bond} = Uni Bond, sounds a bit of a sticky one Phil!

On myspace yesterday I have just been talking to a Chris Thakeray, who raced in the late 70's at mainly Bemsee Southern 67 events, had a brother Jeff who raced at the same time, do you remember them Nigel? They were from Dulwich in South London.

ex Rhodie racer

Sep 21 2008, 09:10

Originally posted by picblanc

If I remember correctly he was shaven headed? and wasn't he also once an Italian Airforce pilot? (may be more than once!! )

You remember correctly on both counts Mr Fu. He was known as the pink panther because of his preferance for the colour pink. Never met the man personally, but he was highly regarded, not only as a rider, but also as a person.

RIP.

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 09:11

Originally posted by LamboNZ

(1)= uni, 007= Bond} = Uni Bond, sounds a bit of a sticky one Phil!

It's not often i'm stuck for words

Nigel

LamboNZ

Sep 21 2008, 09:13

Originally posted by picblanc

On myspace yesterday I have just been talking to a Chris Thakeray, who raced in the late 70's at mainly Bemsee Southern 67 events, had a brother Jeff who raced at the same time, do you remember them Nigel? They were from Dulwich in South London.

Morning Graham, Yeah I remember the names, but not much about them, I was only 11 in 1979.
If its the brothers i am thinking of, one of them rode a TZ and the other a CB 500 or something like that, Could that be them?

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 09:16

Originally posted by picblanc

If I remember correctly he was shaven headed? and wasn't he also once an Italian Airforce pilot? (may be more than once!! )

And IIRC didn't he famously wear a pair of ladies pants on his head

? under his helmet ?? I am being serious here ( for a change )

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 09:20

Originally posted by LamboNZ

Morning Graham, Yeah I remember the names, but not much about them, I was only 11 in 1979.
If its the brothers i am thinking of, one of them rode a TZ and the other a CB 500 or something like that, Could that be them?

Yes Chris had a TZ then the Harris TZ 350 that was Bob Dixons, his brother also had a TZ not sure about the CB500 but possibly?
Bob Dixons 1977 bike, Chris bought it from Rivetts in Westminster? in 1978, ran it in these colours also.
Mind you might not be a Harris? but time clouds the memories? But it was this bike I have seen a pic of him on it.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 09:22

Originally posted by fil2.8

And IIRC didn't he famously wear a pair of ladies pants on his head ? under his helmet ?? I am being serious here ( for a change )

Didn't everyone!!

your right though Phil I remember that.

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 09:24

Originally posted by picblanc

Didn't everyone!! your right though Phil I remember that.

Thought you still did

oh Mr Fu

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 09:26

Originally posted by fines

Rats, as I shut down the compooter last night I was thinking, no British GP in '76!!! No British GP!!!

Oh, and I thought I'd save the time to type out Silverstone! :yawn:

#1005

You might as well have done Michael as you did in the end!!

LamboNZ

Sep 21 2008, 09:27

Originally posted by picblanc

Yes Chris had a TZ then the Harris TZ 350 that was Bob Dixons, his brother also had a TZ not sure about the CB500 but possibly?
Bob Dixons 1977 bike, Chris bought it from Rivetts in Westminster? in 1978, ran it in these colours also.
Mind you might not be a Harris? but time clouds the memories? But it was this bike I have seen a pic of him on it.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

The bike definately looks familiar, my Dad would propably know them, he was Southern 67 250 champion in 1981 and Bemsee 350 Champion in 1983.

fines

Sep 21 2008, 09:35

Originally posted by fil2.8

And IIRC didn't he famously wear a pair of ladies pants on his head ? under his helmet ?? I am being serious here ( for a change )

No, that was Walter Migliorati!

Another Italian Ladies Man!

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 09:38

Originally posted by fines

No, that was Walter Migliorati! Another Italian Ladies Man!

Yes Michael , of course you are right ( they probably both did and shared the knickers

)

fines

Sep 21 2008, 09:40

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer

You remember correctly on both counts Mr Fu. He was known as the pink panther because of his preferance for the colour pink. Never met the man personally, but he was highly regarded, not only as a rider, but also as a person. RIP.

Yes, the Pink Panther, I remember that! Did a bit of reading, he was apparently married to a German girl (!), and I can confirm that he was a fighter pilot, and highly regarded!

Russell Burrows

Sep 21 2008, 09:41

Originally posted by fil2.8
Ahhhh all I think this is one pretty bike obviously not based on the (in)famous Schirtfinkle !!! where are you chaps with your Schirtfinkle piccies ?? Russ might enjoy this

Henri -Michel is your boy Phil. I think he said he was attempting to trace each Linto. Do you know whose this was? But yeah, I agree, beautiful looking thing.

Are you out there Michel?

stuavant

Sep 21 2008, 09:42

Originally posted by fil2.8

And IIRC didn't he famously wear a pair of ladies pants on his head ? under his helmet ?? I am being serious here ( for a change )

Correct, its all coming back to me..don't think he would fit well with the current crop though

fines

Sep 21 2008, 09:44

Originally posted by fil2.8

Yes Michael , of course you are right ( they probably both did and shared the knickers )

So, perhaps that was the reason he shaved his head - the pants were used to it!

stuavant

Sep 21 2008, 09:44

Originally posted by stuavant

Correct, its all coming back to me..don't think he would fit well with the current crop though

Correction, Im losing it, Walter it was........

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 09:45

Originally posted by Russell Burrows

Henri -Michel is your boy Phil. I think he said he was attempting to trace each Linto. Do you know whose this was? But yeah, I agree, beautiful looking thing.

Are you out there Michel?

Morning to you Russ , sorry I don't know -- took this at the Surtees day

Brands 80/1

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 09:48

Originally posted by stuavant

Correct, its all coming back to me..don't think he would fit well with the current crop though

No Stu , they probably wear them elsewhere

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 09:54

I took the liberty.

HEMEYLA

Sep 21 2008, 09:57

Originally posted by picblanc
Morning/evening all...WWW? easyish?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Pekka Nurmi, Brands Hatch, 1977.

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 10:00

Originally posted by picblanc

I took the liberty.

Thats decent of you Mr Fu

PS --could you pop round after lunch and ' touch-up' the other 416 piccies

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 10:00

Originally posted by HEMEYLA

Pekka Nurmi, Brands Hatch, 1977.

Thank you Ton, I thought I was being ignored with this one again!! or may be the old boys were getting to excited about the thought of ladies knickers!!

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 10:04

Originally posted by picblanc

Thank you Ton, I thought I was being ignored with this one again!! or may be the old boys were getting to excited about the thought of ladies knickers!!

No just the contents

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 10:09

I wont ask WWW? for obvious reasons, but the paint work on Harold Coppocks bike here ridden by the Barnsley Coalman (Barnsley probably had more than one I would think, but may be not now!!

) a lot of time and effort in presentation went into Harolds bikes!!, Mike were you involved with the paint jobs? (with or without Knickers on your head!!)

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 10:10

Originally posted by fil2.8

No just the contents

Ah yes that would be it!! you must have a good memory Phil!!

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 10:14

Originally posted by picblanc

Ah yes that would be it!! you must have a good memory Phil!!

About what Mr Fu

fil2.8

Sep 21 2008, 10:30

Originally posted by picblanc
I wont ask WWW? for obvious reasons, but the paint work on Harold Coppocks bike here ridden by the Barnsley Coalman (Barnsley probably had more than one I would think, but may be not now!! ) a lot of time and effort in presentation went into Harolds bikes!!, Mike were you involved with the paint jobs? (with or without Knickers on your head!!)

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Nice to see an early AIR decal on Harolds bikes -this is the later one

me an anorak no

HEMEYLA

Sep 21 2008, 10:31

Originally posted by picblanc

Thank you Ton, I thought I was being ignored with this one again!! or may be the old boys were getting to excited about the thought of ladies knickers!!

Special medicine for the old boys to get excited.

fines

Sep 21 2008, 10:35

Originally posted by picblanc

Thank you Ton, I thought I was being ignored with this one again!! or may be the old boys were getting to excited about the thought of ladies knickers!!

Gosh, I was thinking that has to be Pekka, but then I got (ahem) entangled into this discussion about... dancing bananas!

ex Rhodie racer

Sep 21 2008, 10:52

I heard a very disturbing report about 6 years ago that Pekka look his own life. Is there any truth to that? I sincerely hope not. He was a real gentleman and one of the nicest guys I´ve met.
I would like to apologise in advance if this "rumour" is incorrect, but I really would like to know if there was any truth to the story.
I sincerely hope it is not true.

mfd

Sep 21 2008, 10:59

Originally posted by picblanc
a lot of time and effort in presentation went into Harolds bikes!!, Mike were you involved with the paint jobs?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

I was Graham, but not these swirly versions, I did the later angular striped ones.
David (DCW) might remember something about the earlier ones, which incidentally were never exactly the same. IIRC they were painted locally to the Coppock family and were something of a labour of love.

When Steve Henshaw started riding for Harold & the number of bikes in the stable increased (250-350-500-750) Steve got free paintwork from Dream Machine & they were keen on making it simpler & updating it. I was only partly to blame for the demise of this unique colour scheme that so many well known riders were associated with in the 70s.

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 11:02

Originally posted by mfd

I was Graham, but not these swirly versions, I did the later angular striped ones.
David (DCW) might remember something about the earlier ones, which incidentally were never exactly the same. IIRC they were painted locally to the Coppock family and were something of a labour of love.

When Steve Henshaw started riding for Harold & the number of bikes in the stable increased (250-350-500-750) Steve got free paintwork from Dream Machine & they were keen on making it simpler & updating it. I was only partly to blame for the demise of this unique colour scheme that so many well known riders were associated with in the 70s.

Thank you!

GD66

Sep 21 2008, 11:44

Originally posted by mfd

Motocourse says they were front & rear on both the 250 & 350. The other side of the hub to this shot is really conical, but it was def hydraulic. See if I can find out more. There must have been a reason/advantage!

If I recall, the reason they were conical is there was more swept area on the linings due to their angle, and I think from memory they also had a pretty significant servo effect once applied. Whatever the case, they didn't use them for long, and they'd have been more fiddly to use, and heavier than a disc. But it was around this time they tried four carbs on a 480cc-or-so, 500-class twin. Neither idea stuck, but good to see them thinking outside the box.

mfd

Sep 21 2008, 13:18

Originally posted by GD66
If I recall, the reason they were conical is there was more swept area on the linings due to their angle, and I think from memory they also had a pretty significant servo effect once applied. Whatever the case, they didn't use them for long, and they'd have been more fiddly to use, and heavier than a disc

Could be onto something, look here! http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/3982610/description.html

A disk brake, of the type embodying the brake disk in the hub of the vehicle wheel and especially a motorcycle wheel, having: at least one brake disk, the braking surface of which is a conical surface, which brake disk connects the actual hub of the wheel with the spokes carrying flange of the wheel itself; and at least one non-rotating brake plate, placed to the side of the hub and provided with friction pads lying on a conical surface adapted to engage with the braking surface of the disk, said brake plate being slidable along the wheel axis in order to establish or interrupt braking engagement between said friction pads and said disk, under the opposing action of fluid pressure control means and of spring return means.

picblanc

Sep 21 2008, 13:32

Originally posted by mfd

Could be onto something, look here! http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/3982610/description.html

A disk brake, of the type embodying the brake disk in the hub of the vehicle wheel and especially a motorcycle wheel, having: at least one brake disk, the braking surface of which is a conical surface, which brake disk connects the actual hub of the wheel with the spokes carrying flange of the wheel itself; and at least one non-rotating brake plate, placed to the side of the hub and provided with friction pads lying on a conical surface adapted to engage with the braking surface of the disk, said brake plate being slidable along the wheel axis in order to establish or interrupt braking engagement between said friction pads and said disk, under the opposing action of fluid pressure control means and of spring return means.

Bloooody hell!!...lets have a WWW?

mfd

Sep 21 2008, 13:53

Originally posted by picblanc
Bloooody hell!!...lets have a WWW?

I like the dancing banana, but will have to use this

ex Rhodie racer

Sep 21 2008, 13:57

Originally posted by picblanc

Mind you might not be a Harris? but time clouds the memories? But it was this bike I have seen a pic of him on it.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Could be wrong, but that looks a lot like Niko Bakkers work. Lovely bit of tackle whatever it is.

HEMEYLA

Sep 21 2008, 14:01

Originally posted by picblanc

Bloooody hell!!...lets have a WWW?

There you go, WWW?

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