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picblanc
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Nov 28 2009, 22:38) *
Mexican Jimmy Morales ???


Nope!
gmwzorro
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 28 2009, 22:39) *
Here ye go WW







Guy Bertin
picblanc
picblanc
Thats better, the other one is a bit shoutty!!
fil2.8
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Nov 28 2009, 22:41) *
Guy Bertin


Is the correct answer clap.gif clap.gif 1980 , Assen , Motobecane 125
picblanc
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 28 2009, 22:47) *
Is the correct answer clap.gif clap.gif 1980 , Assen , Motobecane 125


Not to difficult that one....what with his name on the side an all!!!
exclubracer
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 23:42) *



That's better! rolleyes.gif lol.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 22:48) *
Not to difficult that one....what with his name on the side an all!!!


Then why did'nt you answer it rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif ?? tongue.gif tongue.gif
gmwzorro

www
picblanc
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 28 2009, 22:51) *
Then why did'nt you answer it rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif ?? tongue.gif tongue.gif


Was busy faffing about with Steve's photo! tongue.gif
exclubracer
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Nov 28 2009, 23:52) *

www


Hans-Otto Butenuth
fil2.8
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 22:54) *
Was busy faffing about with Steve's photo! tongue.gif


yawnface.gif yawnface.gif yawnface.gif Right rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
gmwzorro
QUOTE (exclubracer @ Nov 28 2009, 22:59) *
Hans-Otto Butenuth

No not Hans initials GS only ever remember him on BMWs Southern 100 81
Herr Wankel
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Nov 29 2009, 00:02) *
No not Hans initials GS only ever remember him on BMWs Southern 100 81

Grant Sellars
HW
gmwzorro
clap.gif clap.gif Yes it is Grant
Gary
QUOTE (Herr Wankel @ Nov 28 2009, 23:04) *
Grant Sellars
HW

Herr Wankel
QUOTE (gmwzorro @ Nov 29 2009, 00:05) *
clap.gif clap.gif Yes it is Grant
Gary

I think it is derived from one of the old Gus Kuhn racers.Grant has done a few laps tongue.gif around the mountain circuit on his Manx Norton also.Lived just down the road from Ken Redfern IIRC.
HW
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 22:42) *

Blimey Graham, you are a God ! How did you manage to upload a photo that i couldnt ! From now on i will email you my pics and you can upload them ( as long as you promise not to look first !)
Howcome the http has all the (IMG) bits that the site wouldnt let me post ?
Anyway to the photo, ignore the numpty in the middle, who is the young lad kneeling ? (clue, he went on to be a very successful driver on four wheels and very often on BBC on a Sunday afternoon ?)
LamboNZ
That bloody TZA, runined my 1990, always one or two places in front of me that year!
Steve and the padbury motors guys, who went on to sponsor Alan Carter for a couple of years too.
fil2.8
QUOTE (Steve Bateman @ Nov 28 2009, 23:26) *
Blimey Graham, you are a God ! How did you manage to upload a photo that i couldnt ! From now on i will email you my pics and you can upload them ( as long as you promise not to look first !)
Howcome the http has all the (IMG) bits that the site wouldnt let me post ?
Anyway to the photo, ignore the numpty in the middle, who is the young lad kneeling ? (clue, he went on to be a very successful driver on four wheels and very often on BBC on a Sunday afternoon ?)


Jenson Button ??
picblanc
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 22:35) *
WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.


Not much on this guy!! French, regular at UK Internationals in the 70's.
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 22:54) *
Was busy faffing about with Steve's photo! tongue.gif

Big thanks guys, especiallt Graham , Fil and HEMELYA who have been very patient in explaining how to upload photos.Think i have cracked it now so watch out i am going to bore you all to death(even more).
Once i have finished doing my VAT Return that is ! evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 11:12) *
Not much on this guy!! French, regular at UK Internationals in the 70's.


Buster , old chap tongue.gif is it Bernard Goldstein , PBI Oct 1976 perchance ??
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 29 2009, 09:31) *
Jenson Button ??

Sorry Fil, not JB !
Wow, so this is what it feels like to be in charge of the questions ! lol.gif lol.gif wave.gif wave.gif

Clue, he was the son of my sponsor and his teammates initials were JP.
Herr Wankel
QUOTE (Steve Bateman @ Nov 29 2009, 12:47) *
Sorry Fil, not JB !
Wow, so this is what it feels like to be in charge of the questions ! lol.gif lol.gif wave.gif wave.gif

Clue, he was the son of my sponsor and his teammates initials were JP.

Mr Palmer,Steve?
HW
picblanc
QUOTE (Herr Wankel @ Nov 29 2009, 12:25) *
Mr Palmer,Steve?
HW



Dont think so, Jonathan Palmer was racing F1 in the 80's & a Doctor before that, this pic is late 80's 1990? lad is to young HW, but I have been known to be wrong a number of times!! biggrin.gif
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 12:28) *
Dont think so, Jonathan Palmer was racing F1 in the 80's & a Doctor before that, this pic is late 80's 1990? lad is to young HW, but I have been known to be wrong a number of times!! biggrin.gif

Afraid not Graham, his teamates first name was Jason rolleyes.gif
picblanc
Got to be Touring cars, cant be Jason Plato is it?
GD66
Alain Menu ?
picblanc
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 12:55) *
Got to be Touring cars, cant be Jason Plato is it?



Would help if I read the post properly, the lads initials are not JP so.............I am lost!! drunk.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 29 2009, 11:23) *
Buster , old chap tongue.gif is it Bernard Goldstein , PBI Oct 1976 perchance ??


Oi , Buster !!!! give us an answer please mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif tongue.gif kiss.gif
picblanc
Back again!! James Thompson, last guess!
picblanc
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 29 2009, 13:23) *
Oi , Buster !!!! give us an answer please mad.gif mad.gif mad.gif tongue.gif kiss.gif


Last clue, he was involved in the big 15? machine, 1975 Paddock bend 1st lap accident, in the MCN televised race @ the PBI meet.
Mick Robinson
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 12:12) *
Not much on this guy!! French, regular at UK Internationals in the 70's.


Not Alain Terras is it Graham?
fil2.8
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 13:26) *
Last clue, he was involved in the big 15? machine, 1975 Paddock bend 1st lap accident, in the MCN televised race @ the PBI meet.


Choice of 2 , either Olivier Chevallier , or Patrick Pons , i'll go with the first up.gif
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 12:55) *
Got to be Touring cars, cant be Jason Plato is it?

Jason Plato is correct, The young chap was his teamamte, also initials JP !! confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif
picblanc
QUOTE (Mick Robinson @ Nov 29 2009, 13:27) *
Not Alain Terras is it Graham?


Tiz indeed Mick clap.gif clap.gif

Silverstone 1976.
picblanc
QUOTE (Steve Bateman @ Nov 29 2009, 13:44) *
Jason Plato is correct, The young chap was his teamamte, also initials JP !! confused.gif confused.gif confused.gif


James Pickford?
fil2.8
WWW , one very well known , up.gif one not so well known , I think
















picblanc
QUOTE (fil2.8 @ Nov 29 2009, 15:51) *
WWW , one very well known , up.gif one not so well known , I think









Anton Mang #3
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 15:45) *
James Pickford?

Correct Graham clap.gif clap.gif Drove for Seat in the 2005 BTCC Championships, every time he was in front of his teammate Plato in qualifying, his car was mysteriously not as fast in the race confused.gif confused.gif


Sorry that my first successful picture upload has too may wheels though !
Promise to make amends as soon as i have finished doing my Voluntary work for Customs and Excise evil.gif evil.gif evil.gif
fil2.8
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 29 2009, 15:58) *
Anton Mang #3


Correct clap.gif ................. and ????
Steve Bateman
WWW


NB . The guy at the front WAS being lapped rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif








PaulMB
QUOTE (Steve Bateman @ Nov 28 2009, 11:13) *
Hi K,
Dont know the answer to that, my RG had Spondon chassis so maybe Steve Henshaw decided to hang onto his Spondon calipers to carry over to his MK8.
Just looked at some old pics and my RG calipers were on the front, i think everyone at the time had different ideas about how the antdive worked dependent on whether calipers were in front or behind. Probably a question for Paul MB !!
Steve


Calipers in front or behind shouldn't make any difference to how the Suzuki hydraulic anti-dive units bolted to the forks work. The pressure of brake fluid in the line at the top of the ANDF just closes a valve against the pressure of a spring to slow down fork oil through the body of the ANDF dependant on how hard you pull the front brake lever.

However there was always talk about calipers behind forks get too hot, or at least not sufficient cooling air, and that they were stopping the forks compressing because the disc was going up through the caliper. Whereas, calipers in front of the fork legs allowed beter cooling to the pads and calipers and because the discs were going down (ok across) the pad then the forks would compess more.

So, pretty much one of one and one of another adding up to one or 42 or total buls**t.

Of course, a bigger issue may be that by having the calipers closer to the steering axis when they are behind the legs reduces weight out the front to reduce the pendulum effect when you get in a tank slapper. Possibly less pad knock back as well?

Not convinced on any of these I'm afraid but then I didn't have to ride them either! I just thought most, not all, bikes looked better with the calipers behind the legs. You will see if you study the two TR500 piccies that it came to me with the calipers in front and left with them behind. As it's not a standard set up (would have had Cerianis and double twin leading shoe), I guess no-one can say how I've put it together is wrong. lol.gif
PaulMB
QUOTE (picblanc @ Nov 28 2009, 20:43) *
Butch Hobbs.


I did a couple of races as his mechanic back in the late 70's, 350 TZ. Had a crash course in how powerjet carbs work when it didn't run too well at Snett. Still see him occaisionally rushing around the Sevenoaks area. He and his missus both work at Quaife engineering, his missus being Micks sister of course.
PaulMB
QUOTE (exclubracer @ Nov 28 2009, 23:14) *
Bloody Carnaby mad.gif
Nothing would surprise me about that place!


More like the traffic cone got in the way. When I went there in '83 I asked the riders why their lap times were always so different. They said the track was different every lap as the cones walked around in the wind. So did the bales come to that. roflmao.gif
kerrowmoar
QUOTE (Steve Bateman @ Nov 29 2009, 16:25) *
WWW


NB . The guy at the front WAS being lapped rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif

Howard Lees on the cb1100r
Mark Salle 4
Dont know the others
kerrowmoar
"course, a bigger issue may be that by having the calipers closer to the steering axis when they are behind the legs reduces weight out the front to reduce the pendulum effect when you get in a tank slapper. Possibly less pad knock back as well?"


Thats what i remember being told all those years ago and was wondering if suzuki had changed their way of thinking or if it was each individuals choice as to which way round.

Im now none the wiser lol.gif


Will just have to try both ways and see confused.gif
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (PaulMB @ Nov 29 2009, 16:32) *
Calipers in front or behind shouldn't make any difference to how the Suzuki hydraulic anti-dive units bolted to the forks work. The pressure of brake fluid in the line at the top of the ANDF just closes a valve against the pressure of a spring to slow down fork oil through the body of the ANDF dependant on how hard you pull the front brake lever.

However there was always talk about calipers behind forks get too hot, or at least not sufficient cooling air, and that they were stopping the forks compressing because the disc was going up through the caliper. Whereas, calipers in front of the fork legs allowed beter cooling to the pads and calipers and because the discs were going down (ok across) the pad then the forks would compess more.

So, pretty much one of one and one of another adding up to one or 42 or total buls**t.

Of course, a bigger issue may be that by having the calipers closer to the steering axis when they are behind the legs reduces weight out the front to reduce the pendulum effect when you get in a tank slapper. Possibly less pad knock back as well?

Not convinced on any of these I'm afraid but then I didn't have to ride them either! I just thought most, not all, bikes looked better with the calipers behind the legs. You will see if you study the two TR500 piccies that it came to me with the calipers in front and left with them behind. As it's not a standard set up (would have had Cerianis and double twin leading shoe), I guess no-one can say how I've put it together is wrong. lol.gif


Like this Paul ?
Steve Bateman
QUOTE (kerrowmoar @ Nov 29 2009, 16:53) *
. Possibly less pad knock back as well?"


Thats what i remember being told all those years ago and was wondering if suzuki had changed their way of thinking or if it was each individuals choice as to which way round.

Im now none the wiser lol.gif


Will just have to try both ways and see confused.gif

Hi K, remember when we were still running stock wheels on the 1985 GSXR750 in Endurance, the thing used to headshake so violently that the wheels would flex and push the pads back COMPLETELY from the disc and you had to pump at least three times before you got the lever back ! That was my version of kevin Shwantz comment "see god - then brake !"
LamboNZ
QUOTE (Steve Bateman @ Nov 30 2009, 04:25) *
WWW


NB . The guy at the front WAS being lapped rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


# 103 is that bloke from Dorset!
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