Yes its Mick....?

Yes true as well.

Were Vic and Derek one and the same ? (weren't his intials V.D. - I wonder what his nick name was at school ? ) There was also Derek's elder brother, Peter, who was killed around the early sixties.

Yes Russell Victor Derek Chatterton , it used to crack me up as a lad when some race organisers insisted on listing him in the programme as VD Chatterton . Yes I had a conversation about Peter with a mate in the pub a few months ago and apparently he died as a result of a road bike accident only yards form their Garage on Highferry level crossing just north of Boston on the A16
I understand Derek is still on the go and living somewhere in the Louth area but not much more than that .

For those who may not have put 2 & 2 together yet? this is Mick Chatterton, no relation to Derek Chatterton.

Phew, is this over now? I was totally lost Doesn't take much

Don't know where you all are been out for a couple of hours Mr Fu Mike ,Andy et al have a go --might have posted before but hey ,who cares ??

yes and IIRC Mick Chatterton at certain circuits had great similarities with a certain S backmarker !

You observed from close quarters then Julian

#5 Kim Barker #2 Gary Padgett #10 Chris Bourn ?

#6 John Davies ?

Yes, too right mate, although it was sometimes two or IIRC on a couple of occassions 3 times in the same race!

Leif thanks for link, i have never seen any videos of any of my races in Europe,some good memories in some of the videos, and also some not so good.
Remember Pekka well, he was a good pilot

Before we drop to second page - WWH ?

Looks a bit like Wofgang von Muralt to me

I had the opportunity to ride both the 1975 KR250 with the 180 firing order and the 1977 model with the big bang 360 firing order.

The 75 KR250 model was the same spec as the AMA versions with a 7 speed transmission, the 75 model did not have any redeeming features other than its weight and narrow frontal area.

I was riding at Waneroo in Western Australia in the Australian Championships in the reverse direction and the rear master cylinder bracket broke and the master cylinder fell between the swing arm and the Morris mag rear wheel and exited the wheel at high speed, tumbilng down the track.

My lovely wife quickly turned to her brother Warren and said "should I let him know with the pit board on the next lap that the rear master cylinder fell off"

Warren in his under statement way said " I think he found out at the next corner!!!!!!"

Warren was exactly correct, I did find out at the next corner when the lever was not found in it's normal position.

I spent the rest of the race trying to keep the lever from digging in on the right hand corners.

I did win 1 race on the 1975 model.

In contrast the 1977 model was vast improvement, the engine had a lot mote torque and a wide power curve, it's engine performance was similar to the TZ350 of that time.

The suspension of the 77 models was also much better (first Kawasaki with the single shock rear suspension).

The first time I rode the 77 was at Daytona and I finished 9th having a great dice with Tom Heron.

There were a few engine teething problems at Daytona and my bike was running below it full potenial.

If my memory is correct Gregg Hansford pulled out with engine problems.

Gregg's bike had 36 mm carbies and mine had 34 mm, so it was always a challenge to beat him.

As they say the rest is history.


Murray

Is not von Muralt - he rode a Suzuki at that race weekend.

Hint: The irder in the pic is German.

I can remember Gustav wearing leathers like that at one time ???????
What about a clue Sefan

Ernst Gschwender ?

Who's the guy with V.D ?

alan barnett?

Yeah, the brilliant Alan Barnett, who should have gone on to win world titles and gawd knows what else.......

No, not Ernst Geschwender - but also a German 500cc champion

It's not Gustav Reiner - I think he never rode a Yamaha in the 500cc class - although I heard that there were plans to give him a Works Yamaha for the German GP 1980 on the Nürburgring

Hint: Initials are JH (in Germany he is also knowm as SH )

Josef Hage??

EDIT: I even "knew" it (well, guessed ) before the hint!

Right ! It's Josef Hage (aka 'Sepp' Hage) ! German 500cc Champion 1982

How interesting Murray Did the factory listen to your feedback ? I always had the impression the Japanese technicians listened politely, absorbed and then offered it back as if it was (their) fresh thinking...

Watcha Andy .Correct on #5 ditto. #2 Incorrect on # 10 also incorrect on #6 sorry

Yep I second that Murray, a very interesting read, thank you.

Actually, I believe it was Kork´s brother, Dozy (can´t remember his real name), who sorted the problem regarding the vibration and piston sequence. Despite his rather absent minded professor look, Dozy was a very shrewd tuner who was responsible for much of Kork´s success.

Here is Derek in 1977, on an ex Texaco Heron RG500, multi British Champion, who rarely if ever? ventured out of the UK. :\

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WWW?

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Gis a clue then....

Yep so can I Andy!!

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Not yet!!

One of our frenchies...Seen many time ,here

Oh yes! tell us Antony, then I can put another up.

And who was practically unbeatable at Cadwell Park.

Alright then... It's in our green and pleasant land, Brands ? But he's wearing Frency or Italiano leathers and the adds look a bit foreign...mmmm.

Hello! Uncle Gustav

He's def a bit foreign Russ!! a near neighbour foreign, seperated by La Manche!!

With a strange rear RG type arm

The Frenchie is Pierre Soulas, i think

Yes it is Pierre, (again!!)

Yes indeed Antony,
Freddie in 1983 on the factory bike,

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and Raymond Roche in 1984.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Gustav's picture is from 1985, and the Honda 3 had by then been replaced by the Honda 4. interesting to see the comparisons.

Excuse me! What are you on about Graham?

Have I made a boo boo!!?

I was trying to show the changes of the Honda 3, climaxed by Gustav Reiners apparent use of a Suzuki Swing arm.
Not very successfully apparently!!

Well dunno it just seemed as if you were saying the 85 bike was a 4 cylinder...which it was if you rode for HRC..see what I mean?

Ahhh yes, it does read a bit like that Mike!! but you know me not the greatest when it comes to the technical side!!..right back in my box!!

You need to use the animated door chappie then!