Yes Barry.

No not Simon though same helmet design, this guy I think was Ray Cunningham? got another picture some where & I will check.

[quote name='Paul Collins' date='Nov 21 2011, 22:57' post='5410747']
Thats an atmospheric shot Eric, and I know what you mean about 'Sergeant Bilko' as we used to call him, we crossed swords a couple of times at the old racing 50 club meetings, but his attitude was always 'like it or put your bikes in the van and go home' so you could never win with him.

Not a nice man, Mr Parker.

Not a great CoC either.

HUGE self-esteem though - totally unwarranted

#3 Roger Christmas
#18 Peter Taylor
#20 Tony Jarvis
#48 Jerry Revett
#28 Tony Edwards
#6 Mark Wieczorek
#14 Andy Hayman
#56 Dennis Porter
#16 Bryan Dorr
#53 Mick Quaife
#64 Phil Wilkinson
#63 Roy Simmonds (standing with Buckmaster look a like helmet)
Righthand mustard coloured bike #44 is Tom Pemberton on the proddy 500 Mach111 Kawasaki.

you sure ??

'E's like me - programmes are wonderful things . . . . . . . .

In about 1979 I was talking one evening to a fairly well known sponsor, who in the brief conversation I had with him had some pretty unusual ideas about things. The name of Jim Parker came up, I don't know if I can say on here what the sponsor said about him but I was pretty surprised at how much this bloke didn't like him. I had never met Jim Parker at this time so I took it with a pinch of salt.

Some years later through being involved with the Association of Road Race Clubs and also going to Clerk of the Course meetings when the ACU decided that they needed to licence these officials I came into contact with Mr Parker. I always thought it was a bit strange that it didn't seem to cross his mind that there was a possible conflict of interest in his representing the Racing 50/New Era clubs at the ARRC meetings while at the same time he was also on the road race committee of the ACU. I then started to hear stories about how he had said to various people that he wanted to take over all the racing clubs in England, about how he would eventually run all road racing.

At a CoC seminar one year I tried to point out the way that the then new ruling for stopping a race due to a red flag and declaring the result was flawed he basically said that there were no "but's" and it didn't need changing. I think it was changed a year or so later. The arrogance of the man is truly outstanding and looking back, the words used in 1979 to describe him might not have been too far from the truth.

Indeed , that's true Larry , but our mutual friend treats programmes like he would a spinster .............................never opened

Thanx Graham!

Nice to see how boring the racing was between all the different manufactures!

paul

I've just found out about Johnny Svensson's superbly named 125cc "Bastard".

Does this have another meaning in Sweden or was it a fair reflection of the bike?

After all the Rickman brothers named their frames after the French noun 'Métisse' which means the same....

I never knew that! I was certain that I'd heard the current owner mention that they wanted a French sounding name and that Métisse had a nice ring to it. I didn't know about the hidden meaning...

Of course it wasn't meant to be disrespectful towards their own product, it just emphasized the fact that the chassis and the engines were of different origin.

Metisse = mongrel (I think, without looking it up)

....errrr . In français, a "métisse" ( for a woman ) or a "métis" (for a boy) is a human being of mixed racial origin. A "bâtard" is something quite different, an illegitimate child born outside the bonds of marriage ( well, more precisely, with one parent - usually the father- being married to a different woman than the mother of the child in question ) . But the word "bâtard" is also used for animals (most commonly dogs) , then meaning the offspring of dogs of two different varieties - which maybe is then the equivalent to the english "mongrel" which I personnaly tend to relate with dogs ?

Merci beaucoup, Philippe!

Why a French tag ? Was there a major European country with less connection to bike racing back then ? Shouldn't it have been Bastardo?

Never argue with Motocrossers, Russ - they're all psychotics

Having said that, I really enjoyed my 7 years on my 'Macchi Metisse

Are you speaking about Johnny Svensson's "Bastard", Russ ? That was in the mid-late 70's , and the french riders were starting to do reasonably well. And anyway "Bastard" is English if I'm not mistaken, in French it's "Bâtard"

Maybe of more interest would be to find out what material Svensson's machine really was. There were plenty of self-made 125's in those days , based or not upon otherwise available equipment . But some were 100% home made (or "eigenbau" as some germanic riders used to call them ) .


edit : actually Svensson only scored once ( at the 1975 Swedish , the first GP I ever attended ) and according to the Racing Memo website his machine was Yamaha based

Interesting bike? WWW? It has been on before on original giant thread, but pic has been deleted.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge.

This is Johnny Svensson's "Bastard". Doesn't look Yamaha based, bit Maico like.... if anything

Hmmm... reminds me of Borje Jansens Maico

That's Richard Horton, 350cc Yamsel. Originally had a TD3 engine in it, finished 4th in the British 250cc championship on it in 1974. Picture was taken in either 1975 or 76, if it was the latter it was fairly early in the season as he packed up racing roughly mid-way through the year after a crash at Mallory.

I remember the underslung tank, it was quite a novel idea at the time.

correct Robin, it is Richard @ Brands PBI meeting end of 1975.

Low slung weight is good, of course, but having little or nothing by way of a tank to climb over/grip/steer/rest on, would be hard work, wouldn't it?

None of the above, phillippe. I was pondering why the Mettise name was used from the mid sixties when, unlike the French, the Italians factories were so involved at that time. You do believe me, don't you

WWW?

Geoff Barry on the left for sure , Billy Guthrie on the right ?? TT '75 ??

Geoff Barry, Doug Lunn?

You seem to be riding the same bike in your portrait photo!

Wouldn't have known but dug the programme out. Will see if anyone else knows.

I think it's '75, #87 is Eric Hayes/Chis Mehew and Geoff Barry's number fits too.

1975 TT Practice - sun's very high - Thursday afternoon?

11 is certainly Geoff Barry.

87 is either Eric Hayes or Chris Mehew - I'd bet Mehew.

No 1 astern is Tom Herron's TZ 350.

All correct -- 1975, the first year of the short-lived 2-rider Production TT.
It was 'afternoon' as there was no early morning practice; and it could be 'Thursday' as the side numbers weren't compulsory until the race itself, but we stuck them on for the last 2 practices anyway.
Thanks for the compliment, but I was never as skinny as Chris Mehew, especially in this side-on photo.
Chris, of course, is now the well renowned engine tuner/builder, (even then, he used to say he wanted to be a "guru" someday..!).
Happy Christmas to All, Eric.

Hi,

Haven't posted for a while, but I got some pictures from Irene Gunnarsson taken by "MotorBild Esso Gunnarsson" from the German 250 GP in Hockenheim 1982, I had my Nico Bakker Rotax that year nice bike ))






Cheers,

Leif

"Jürgen" with #41 being then probably Jürgen Schmid, who finished just ahead of you in the race .

Never realised you were in that race which is very famous for us froggies for the "national conspiracy" which helped Jean-Louis Tournadre clinch the title. But if the data on the Jack Middelburg site is correct you finished in the same lap as the winner , so you couldn't see what was going on at the front.

Good pics in any case

Great shots Leif.

I have just done a new blog post which may be of interest. It is on the Myers specials built in Hull in the late 60's and early 70's:

Myers specials

Yes, lovely period pics Leif

Hi Philippe, yes its Jurgen Schmid in front of me, he was related to my very good friend Harald Johler from Weingarten who got killed when we did a race in Karvina 1979.
I remember the crowd booing at Tournadre after the race was finished, but also pretty sure that Martin Wimmer had a good spot at the grid, but his Yamaha “gave up” during the warm up lap!!
Anyway in my mind Tournadre had a good year, with top finishes during the whole season, and when you looked at what kind of support he had, basically his mum and dad then I think he deserved the title.

Again Pictures from "MotorBild Esso Gunnarsson"

PS! Its a JS in front in this picture:)))





-Cheers Leif

One from the start and a JS from "Downunder" on his Armstrong:))

Picture from "MotorBild Esso Gunnarsson"



A merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all in here

PS! Don't really mean that kiss

-Leif

Jacques Bolle with #20 to the left of Jeff Incidentally, Jacques was here in Nouméa of all places only last week ! He is now chairman of the French Motorcycle Federation ( good to have a former rider at this spot...) and he was visiting this very distant territory under his rule, in order to check the feasability of running the french round of next year's Enduro World Championship in New-Caledonia.

Not that long a go really but B/W pictures just convey so much atmosphere as these ones do, fantastic pictures, great to see them Leif.

Couldn't agree more. His sole win for the '82 250 season was at the controversial Nogaro round, where without doubt the riders' strike meant the unlikely combination of Michel Frutschi and the Sanvenero were able to win a 500 GP, likewise Balde in the 350. Well, good on them, I say, and Tournadre was able to use this fortuitous win as a springboard to continuing strong placings as the season went on.
I don't think anyone would begrudge his title win, as I recall it was very much a poignant lesson in consistency and result management that many contemporaries could have learnt from, and which many subsequent title aspirants would do well to emulate.
For me the disappointment came the following year, when extra works support came hand-in-glove with extra pressure to perform, and JLT struggled to emulate his '82 cunning. Still and all, many of us consider the title was well-earnt. Thumbs-up !

Hi Leif

Hope you are keeping well.

I was at this meeting along with my brother and Colin Seeley. I also have a programme from it. I did take some pics but I have forgotten now how many and of what. Looking quickly there are these two also on the grid for the 250cc race. I must have others - I'll look some more..





Hope you have a good Christmas and a Happy New Year.

In your group shot Leif in the stadium part of the circuit the riders are; though programme only goes up to #51.

#56 Not sure does not say. #16 Ricardo Tormo, #58 Jeff Sayle, #44 Stefan Klabacher, #46 GerhardWaibel and then yourself is #52 I guess. Hope that helps..

#53 No Name, #20 Jack Bolle, #58 Jeff sayle, (I would guess the rider behind Jeff somehwere could be #31 Tony Head as per my grid shot - unless he has already gone ), #25 Massimo Matteomi, #45 Ikeda Tasuda, #40 Manfred Herweh. #41 Jurgen Schmid, #22 Bengt Elgh, No name given either for #10

10 is Richard Schlachter and 53 looks like Bruno Luscher

I seem to recall but could be wrong it has been known! that JLT did not have a full factory bike in 1983 only Sarron did, anyone sure, Philippe?

I know we often mention, but this precisely puts the problems of today...can you imagine a modern 250 title won with the level of support Tournadre had?

On the start line photo, is the guy behind Jeff Sayle, actually Patrick Fernandez. Black & gold helmet, IIRC

10 Richard Schlacter?