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its like some sort of air scoop ? the hump on the rear looks like the way they used to transmit the onbike camera which were bing used in 85
was that not the frame that mamola tried out at the german gp that espie is using, the chavalier unit?
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WWW? I'll let you off the where!
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QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 10 2012, 20:55) 
WWW? I'll let you off the where!
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Chas M ??
QUOTE (larryd @ Feb 10 2012, 21:48)
Chas M ??
Not Chas Larry. Bad Lux!
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 10 2012, 21:55)
WWW? I'll let you off the where!
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A gent of note, my old mate, Peter Labascagne (spelling).
Probably around about 1978. That was Luxair on his fairing.
QUOTE (Sakkie @ Feb 10 2012, 21:51)
My old mate, Peter Labascagne (spelling).
Probably around about 1978. That was Luxair on his fairing.
Probably around about 1978. That was Luxair on his fairing.
indeed Peter Labaschagne. Think its 1977 with out checking relevant programme,the pic is def not 78.Oh & its good old Snetters!
Oh & welcome Sakkie, I missed your introduce yourself post earlier.
I missed your introduce yourself post earlier.
It is 1977.
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QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 10 2012, 21:58)
Oh & welcome Sakkie, I missed your introduce yourself post earlier.
I missed your introduce yourself post earlier.No I didn't!!
WWW?
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Roger Keen?
QUOTE (MikeCa @ Feb 11 2012, 18:28)
Roger Keen?
Roger Nicholls?
QUOTE (MikeCa @ Feb 11 2012, 17:28)
Roger Keen?
Well done Mike.
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 11 2012, 18:57)
Well done Mike.Thanks Graham,
I knew Roger fairly well. I don't think I ever met a more enigmatic character in my time racing. He built my motors for me from the early TZs in 1978 until the RG in 1982. His bikes were so clean and well put together but whenever he rode, which was very rare, he dug out those scabby old leathers and helmet which were, even then, years old.
I remember him co riding an RG with Steve Henshaw at Brands in an FIM 6 hour race. Immaculate RG, Steve H well turned out and Roger in his manky old leathers! They finished 3rd if I remember rightly.
Roger had the habit of being so blunt he was often downright rude but you couldn't help really liking the guy. A proper character who would have no way on God's earth fitted in with modern racing. Fond memories.
Mike
QUOTE (MikeCa @ Feb 11 2012, 18:24)
Thanks Graham,
I knew Roger fairly well. I don't think I ever met a more enigmatic character in my time racing. He built my motors for me from the early TZs in 1978 until the RG in 1982. His bikes were so clean and well put together but whenever he rode, which was very rare, he dug out those scabby old leathers and helmet which were, even then, years old.
I remember him co riding an RG with Steve Henshaw at Brands in an FIM 6 hour race. Immaculate RG, Steve H well turned out and Roger in his manky old leathers! They finished 3rd if I remember rightly.
Roger had the habit of being so blunt he was often downright rude but you couldn't help really liking the guy. A proper character who would have no way on God's earth fitted in with modern racing. Fond memories.
Mike
I knew Roger fairly well. I don't think I ever met a more enigmatic character in my time racing. He built my motors for me from the early TZs in 1978 until the RG in 1982. His bikes were so clean and well put together but whenever he rode, which was very rare, he dug out those scabby old leathers and helmet which were, even then, years old.
I remember him co riding an RG with Steve Henshaw at Brands in an FIM 6 hour race. Immaculate RG, Steve H well turned out and Roger in his manky old leathers! They finished 3rd if I remember rightly.
Roger had the habit of being so blunt he was often downright rude but you couldn't help really liking the guy. A proper character who would have no way on God's earth fitted in with modern racing. Fond memories.
Mike
yes , good bloke , he did our motors , time was not important to him .................
He had a stroke a few years ago
, last saw him at Pembrey , IIRC about 3 years ago , driving a battered old Rover 
, or was it Mallory 
??
WWW?
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An interesting photo? Kevin Wrettom on the left but who is the other rider?
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QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 12 2012, 00:54)
An interesting photo? Kevin Wrettom on the left but who is the other rider?
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Steve Goodrum?
QUOTE (Robin127 @ Feb 12 2012, 03:03)
Steve Goodrum?
No Robin, but that's why it is interesting!
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 12 2012, 00:54)
An interesting photo? Kevin Wrettom on the left but who is the other rider?
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Steve Parker wearing Steve Goodrums leathers, 1977 ?
QUOTE (Mick Robinson @ Feb 12 2012, 13:40)
Steve Parker wearing Steve Goodrums leathers, 1977 ?
well done Mick, no idea why though?
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 11 2012, 23:49)
WWW?
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My first thought was Bernard Fau, but then the name Pierre Soulas (spelling) came to mind. Don´t know why. 1976/77? Brands?
QUOTE (Sakkie @ Feb 12 2012, 16:15)
My first thought was Bernard Fau, but then the name Pierre Soulas (spelling) came to mind. Don´t know why. 1976/77? Brands?
I'll accept your first answer, Bernard Fau 1977 is correct.
WWW?
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QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 12 2012, 18:41)
I'll accept your first answer, Bernard Fau 1977 is correct.
Damn, I was going to say that but it wasn't #33 that threw me
Be bold....... 
QUOTE (MikeCa @ Feb 11 2012, 18:24)
I remember him co riding an RG with Steve Henshaw at Brands in an FIM 6 hour race. Immaculate RG, Steve H well turned out and Roger in his manky old leathers! They finished 3rd if I remember rightly.
I'd forgot that - thanks for reminding
It was 1979 & the RG finished 4th. There's a photo sequence of the start in Motocourse 1979 where you can see Steve climbing aboard from a low Q position & standing away from the track the familiar figure of Roger Keen. IIRC it was an exercise to prove a point about the durability of an RG motor. Sonauto had also used an OW31 in another round. Quick & perhaps not so fragile as you'd imagine?
QUOTE (mfd @ Feb 13 2012, 10:56)
I'd forgot that - thanks for reminding
It was 1979 & the RG finished 4th. There's a photo sequence of the start in Motocourse 1979 where you can see Steve climbing aboard from a low Q position & standing away from the track the familiar figure of Roger Keen. IIRC it was an exercise to prove a point about the durability of an RG motor. Sonauto had also used an OW31 in another round. Quick & perhaps not so fragile as you'd imagine?
It was 1979 & the RG finished 4th. There's a photo sequence of the start in Motocourse 1979 where you can see Steve climbing aboard from a low Q position & standing away from the track the familiar figure of Roger Keen. IIRC it was an exercise to prove a point about the durability of an RG motor. Sonauto had also used an OW31 in another round. Quick & perhaps not so fragile as you'd imagine?
Graham Godward and I were the circuit commentary team out at Westfield for that endurance race.
I kept a lap chart throughout the race and had the RG as third when they were officially credited after the race with 4th place. They used my lap chart to protest their 4th place and to the best of my knowledge were eventually credited with 3rd.
QUOTE (tonyed @ Feb 13 2012, 12:18)
were eventually credited with 3rd.
I'm, sure you're right Tony, I just looked in Motocourse results, incidentally list the riders as Lee/Henshaw
There's a tendency to believe what you read - but we all know about that
How do Motocourse get from Keen to Lee? Or was Roger a sub for Mr Lee (Alan?) Must admit Mike if I read it in Motocourse I would accept it as "true" perhaps it is as fallible as every other publication? 
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 13 2012, 15:37)
How do Motocourse get from Keen to Lee?
They just looked at the bottom of your post ...keen...lee...doo doo etc
QUOTE (mfd @ Feb 13 2012, 17:43)
They just looked at the bottom of your post ...keen...lee...doo doo etc
Boom Boom!!
No guesses for last WWW? yet? try this easy one then, WWW?... when & if? guessed, its going in "Best photo" thread as I really like it! 
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try this easy one then, WWW?... when & if? guessed, its going in "Best photo" thread as I really like it! Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge.
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 13 2012, 14:14)
WWW?
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Well , a Dutchman on an RG
Going by the name on the sleeve and what is visible on the back, Klaas Hernamdt ?
But what about the 1975 Team Heron livery lookalike ???
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 13 2012, 20:26)
No guesses for last WWW? yet? try this easy one then, WWW?... when & if? guessed, its going in "Best photo" thread as I really like it!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge.
try this easy one then, WWW?... when & if? guessed, its going in "Best photo" thread as I really like it! Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge.
Phil Mellor Clearways Brands 1977
QUOTE (mfd @ Feb 13 2012, 10:56)
I'd forgot that - thanks for reminding
It was 1979 & the RG finished 4th. There's a photo sequence of the start in Motocourse 1979 where you can see Steve climbing aboard from a low Q position & standing away from the track the familiar figure of Roger Keen. IIRC it was an exercise to prove a point about the durability of an RG motor. Sonauto had also used an OW31 in another round. Quick & perhaps not so fragile as you'd imagine?
It was 1979 & the RG finished 4th. There's a photo sequence of the start in Motocourse 1979 where you can see Steve climbing aboard from a low Q position & standing away from the track the familiar figure of Roger Keen. IIRC it was an exercise to prove a point about the durability of an RG motor. Sonauto had also used an OW31 in another round. Quick & perhaps not so fragile as you'd imagine?
I partnered Simon Buckmaster in that race on CB900 Honda sponsored by North London Motorcycles, IIRC a Sonauto TZ750 practiced for the race but never started. Rocket Ron was'nt a popular boy that day, he passed me up the hill out of Dingle Dell and then dumped the Honda Britain F1 he was sharing with Alex George right in front of me at Stirlings. As you would expect they were leading by a country mile at the time, I think me and Simon finished about 13th or so.
QUOTE (TZ350H @ Feb 13 2012, 21:30)
Phil Mellor Clearways Brands 1977
1978.
QUOTE (philippe7 @ Feb 13 2012, 21:26)
Well , a Dutchman on an RG
Going by the name on the sleeve and what is visible on the back, Klaas Hernamdt ?
But what about the 1975 Team Heron livery lookalike ???
Going by the name on the sleeve and what is visible on the back, Klaas Hernamdt ?
But what about the 1975 Team Heron livery lookalike ???
Not Hernamdt but Klaas Degraaf, very Heron like indeed Philippe.
More from a wet King of Brands meeting who is he?
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Well, if not Bernard Fau, then Jean-Claude Meilland ?
QUOTE (philippe7 @ Feb 13 2012, 23:54)
Well, if not Bernard Fau, then Jean-Claude Meilland ?
JC Meilland is right.
This was on the original thread years a go, but at a very low resolution (print size 2"x1"!!), I am busy re scanning most of my transparencies @ a higher 10"x8" size and they look so much better!
Rod @ Brands in 1977.
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Rod @ Brands in 1977.
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WWW?
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Rob Orme - Silverstone, 1985?
QUOTE (ravenous25 @ Feb 14 2012, 12:01)
Rob Orme - Silverstone, 1985?
Correct.
QUOTE (picblanc @ Feb 14 2012, 16:37)
Correct.Not sure if this is OT or not, but interesting stuff here
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/feature.htm
Well, it seems that "tout vient à point à qui sait attendre" , meaning "everything finally comes to him who can wait"......Many years ago - 6 years exactly - I asked a question on the original nostalgia thread which I never managed to find the answer to ....
And yesterday, on the french pit-lane.biz forum, the following article by Mick Woollett was posted
Hallelujah ! Now, I know, and I'm happy...
QUOTE (philippe7 @ Jan 6 2006, 13:15)
I've always been wondering something : as we all know , the components of the engines of the 750 BSA Rocket-3 and of the 750 Triumph Trident were basically the same , with the only difference ( apparently purely for marketing reasons....) being that the Triumph cylinder block was strictly vertical, whereas the BSA cylinders were slightly tilted forward . Does anybody know wether those technical difference were kept on the RobNorth framed racing bikes , or if the racing department only used one single engine base for the racers, with only a different branding ?
And yesterday, on the french pit-lane.biz forum, the following article by Mick Woollett was posted
Hallelujah ! Now, I know, and I'm happy...
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