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Michel Rougerie with #30 on one of Barry's team Herron bikes had 2nd time from practice, can't really find him.
Originally posted by stuavant
Can you get him to start it up please?
Can you get him to start it up please?
Damn - IIRC he just switched it off
Originally posted by mfd
Not according to Dan and his extensive archive,
That's fine Graham, so the first rostrum (with Lucky) for Cagiva was Mugello 1978.
I find this interesting as I can't find one single reference in any of the Motocourse reports for a Cagiva & all the stats show both riders on Suzuki. There are a few colour shots of the bike with the elephant on the side. I think it odd, considering all the others are either Yamaha or Suzuki, the reports don't make a mention of a "new" Italian bike. Off to look in the 79 issue.
Not according to Dan and his extensive archive,
That's fine Graham, so the first rostrum (with Lucky) for Cagiva was Mugello 1978.
I find this interesting as I can't find one single reference in any of the Motocourse reports for a Cagiva & all the stats show both riders on Suzuki. There are a few colour shots of the bike with the elephant on the side. I think it odd, considering all the others are either Yamaha or Suzuki, the reports don't make a mention of a "new" Italian bike. Off to look in the 79 issue.
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
The 1994/95 edition of Motocourse makes reference to the first Cagiva appearing in 1979, although this was based upon a Suzuki. It was rumoured that a crankcase had mysteriously disappeared from the Suzuki headquarters in 1978 - the 1979 Cagiva used copies of this crankcase surmounted by various production RG500 components.
Andy
Originally posted by subh
This is a ‘who’ for you, over at the highsider photo site. You’ll see that it’s Spa 1978, but the whole field is there to ID:
http://www.highsider.com/textlager/uk_text...heene_78_05.htm
This is a ‘who’ for you, over at the highsider photo site. You’ll see that it’s Spa 1978, but the whole field is there to ID:
http://www.highsider.com/textlager/uk_text...heene_78_05.htm
I think 39 could be John Woodley, and 14 looks like Jack Findlay. I'm pretty sure that behind Findlay in the yellow & green colours (28 or 29) is Franz Rau.
Andy
Originally posted by Shieldsmariner
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
The 1994/95 edition of Motocourse makes reference to the first Cagiva appearing in 1979, although this was based upon a Suzuki. It was rumoured that a crankcase had mysteriously disappeared from the Suzuki headquarters in 1978 - the 1979 Cagiva used copies of this crankcase surmounted by various production RG500 components.
Andy
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
The 1994/95 edition of Motocourse makes reference to the first Cagiva appearing in 1979, although this was based upon a Suzuki. It was rumoured that a crankcase had mysteriously disappeared from the Suzuki headquarters in 1978 - the 1979 Cagiva used copies of this crankcase surmounted by various production RG500 components.
Andy
Marco Lucchinelli at Mugello 1978
Originally posted by subh
As it happens, I have the programme for this race, so I can mark your answers...
The Cagiva: The sources I’ve been looking at describe Lucchinelli’s 1978 bike as either a Suzuki or a Cagiva-Suzuki. I think you’re right and it wasn’t yet the real deal.
OK, right so far:
1 Alblas* (not Agostini), 4 Cecotto, 9 George, 15 Hartog, 21 Länsivuori, 22 Lucchinelli, 23 Newbold, 34 van Dulmen, 38 Williams (not Ekerold)
* A hint here is that a lot of the numbers seem to have been allocated alphabetically.
As it happens, I have the programme for this race, so I can mark your answers...
The Cagiva: The sources I’ve been looking at describe Lucchinelli’s 1978 bike as either a Suzuki or a Cagiva-Suzuki. I think you’re right and it wasn’t yet the real deal.
OK, right so far:
1 Alblas* (not Agostini), 4 Cecotto, 9 George, 15 Hartog, 21 Länsivuori, 22 Lucchinelli, 23 Newbold, 34 van Dulmen, 38 Williams (not Ekerold)
* A hint here is that a lot of the numbers seem to have been allocated alphabetically.
Make Ekerold #48 then but still in the same place. 3 above Boet V D
Originally posted by HEMEYLA
Michel Rougerie with #30 on one of Barry's team Herron bikes had 2nd time from practice, can't really find him.
Michel Rougerie with #30 on one of Barry's team Herron bikes had 2nd time from practice, can't really find him.
Ton, he is between Cecotto and Teppi? on the right of the grid (our right
)
I was scrabbling round late last night looking for old pics in mags, and found two showing Marco on a bike with Cagiva colours and different bodywork, but none as good as that one of Manfreds (again!!)
OK it might be a "Suzuki" inside but not much else was? and Cagiva is on the paint work, so maybe not a 100% Cagiva but not a Suzuki either? :\
Originally posted by peterd
Found this one, WWW? might be easy for certain ones on here to identify?
Greg Johnson?
Found this one, WWW? might be easy for certain ones on here to identify?
Greg Johnson?
Correct Peter, it is Aussie Greg Johnson at Silverstone in 1978.
and welcome to the Forum.
Originally posted by stuavant
Can you get him to start it up please?
Can you get him to start it up please?
Fantastic picture of Steve Baker and the "OW 31"
Wonder if that bike is still about?
Great to see the period pre health and safety,plenty of flammable liquids."asbestos?"exhaust wrap and gaffa tape.no silencers,!!
i think that is my favourite picture so far on this thread (part 2)
Originally posted by subh
This is a ‘who’ for you, over at the highsider photo site. You’ll see that it’s Spa 1978, but the whole field is there to ID:
http://www.highsider.com/textlager/uk_text...heene_78_05.htm
This is a ‘who’ for you, over at the highsider photo site. You’ll see that it’s Spa 1978, but the whole field is there to ID:
http://www.highsider.com/textlager/uk_text...heene_78_05.htm
Franz Rau in green and yellow on the left rear #28 is it? also see Grazziano Rossi behind #10 who may be Philippe Coulon (orange bike yellow helmet) Rossi has white hat red stripe at an angle.
Good shout on John Woodley whoever said it?....Scrolls forward or in this case backwards!... Andy (Shieldsmariner)
Bo**ocks he got Franz Rau too!!
Originally posted by ESSEXBOY
[B]Fantastic picture of Steve Baker and the "OW 31"
Wonder if that bike is still about?
Great to see the period pre health and safety,plenty of flammable liquids."asbestos?"exhaust wrap and gaffa tape.no silencers,!!
i think that is my favourite picture so far on this thread (part 2) [/B]
[B]Fantastic picture of Steve Baker and the "OW 31"
Wonder if that bike is still about?
Great to see the period pre health and safety,plenty of flammable liquids."asbestos?"exhaust wrap and gaffa tape.no silencers,!!
i think that is my favourite picture so far on this thread (part 2) [/B]
Grrrrrrrr!! My Grandma could of taken that!!
it is good though!! No one has mentioned poor old Randy Cleek just behind? So I just have!!
Here is one my Granny did take!! WWW? I have been working on these as they are damaged slides 
light got in them!!, but I have been able to rescue most of them courtesy of Photoshop!!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
light got in them!!, but I have been able to rescue most of them courtesy of Photoshop!!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Is that your grandma sitting down in the red in the background of the Baker/Cleek pic, Gra ?
Originally posted by mfd
Yes Andy I was convinced but then I remembered "Bellingham" for some reason. Trivial pursuits The other part I forgot was that Yamaha dropped him at the end of 77. I wonder what that was all about?
Yes Andy I was convinced but then I remembered "Bellingham" for some reason. Trivial pursuits
The other part I forgot was that Yamaha dropped him at the end of 77. I wonder what that was all about? Cecotto!?
at last i have something in common with agostini!.
a bald patch.
a bald patch.
Originally posted by chrisb
And Wasn't Baker's OW31 one of the most lovely things to be seen before 2 strokes started sprouting silencers. Go on, Graham - I know you've got some pics...
And Wasn't Baker's OW31 one of the most lovely things to be seen before 2 strokes started sprouting silencers. Go on, Graham - I know you've got some pics...
This one, I probably should of posted it in B/W
Brands Hatch 1976 Trans Trophy.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Got others that are downloaded wrong size I shall re do them later. :\
Originally posted by mfd
He'll be in nod land, but I've got one[img][IMG]http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8942/bakerjm9.jpg[/img][/IMG]
He'll be in nod land, but I've got one[img][IMG]http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/8942/bakerjm9.jpg[/img][/IMG]
Thank-you, thank you thank you!!
Originally posted by picblanc
Grrrrrrrr!! My Grandma could of taken that!! it is good though!! No one has mentioned poor old Randy Cleek just behind? So I just have!!
Grrrrrrrr!! My Grandma could of taken that!!
it is good though!! No one has mentioned poor old Randy Cleek just behind? So I just have!! ooops sorry Fu never knew you were so competitive
its just sometimes pictures just capture the period so well,the paddock,the fashions etc.
it doesn't matter if it is in or out of focus ,under or over exposed ,it just captures the period,
no awnings,no keep out signs ,pre computer and corporate gloss,wish i had a TARDIS
Originally posted by andyb1963
Just been thinking about the early Cagiva years - wasn't it a Suzuki in disguise until 82 ?
Just been thinking about the early Cagiva years - wasn't it a Suzuki in disguise until 82 ?
I believe the first GP ever for an authentic Cagiva was the 82 Yugo GP in Rijeka. I´m not sure why it was debuted so late in the season, as Rejeka was in the second half of the championship year.
It was a square 4, designed by, I think, an engieer named Mascaroni. Don´t know his first name. I found this pic from that race in Manfred Mothes great site. I hope I´m allowed to reproduce it here.
Sorry to come after the battle,but "Bonjour à tous !"
The 1978 Belgium GPClassement:with all the starters
1 W. Hartog Ola Suzuki 39'54''
2 K. Roberts Usa Yamaha a 12''020
3 B. Sheene Gb Suzuki a 15''000
4 M. Rougerie Fra Suzuki a 17''700 3'51''700
5 T. Lansivuori Fin Suzuki a 1'15''300
6 T. Katayama Gia Yamaha
7 M. Lucchinelli Ita Suzuki
8 A. George Gb Suzuki
9 W. Herron Gb Suzuki
10 D. Ireland Nz Suzuki
11 J. Woodley Nz Suzuki
12 J. Williams Gb Suzuki
13 B. Granath Swe Suzuki
14 G. Rossi Ita Suzuki
15 J. Findlay Aus Suzuki
16 G. Johnson Aus Suzuki
17 H. Regout Bel Yamaha
18 M. Wiener Aut Suzuki
19 L. Van Breda Saf Suzuki
20 G. Vogt Ger Suzuki
21 E. Coormans Bel Suzuki
22 J. Hogrel Fra But
B. Van Dulmen Ola Suzuki rit.
F. Heller Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Baker Usa Suzuki rit.
F. Rau Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Parrish Gb Suzuki rit.
J. Ekerold Saf Fath rit.
B. Kneubuhler Sui Suzuki rit.
J. Newbold Gb Suzuki rit.
B. Nielsen Den Suzuki rit.
C. Scheepens Ola Suzuki rit.
D. Alblas Ola Suzuki rit.
P. Coulon Fra Suzuki rit.
J. Cecotto Ven Yamaha rit.
V. Ferrari Ita Suzuki rit.
The 1978 Belgium GPClassement:with all the starters
1 W. Hartog Ola Suzuki 39'54''
2 K. Roberts Usa Yamaha a 12''020
3 B. Sheene Gb Suzuki a 15''000
4 M. Rougerie Fra Suzuki a 17''700 3'51''700
5 T. Lansivuori Fin Suzuki a 1'15''300
6 T. Katayama Gia Yamaha
7 M. Lucchinelli Ita Suzuki
8 A. George Gb Suzuki
9 W. Herron Gb Suzuki
10 D. Ireland Nz Suzuki
11 J. Woodley Nz Suzuki
12 J. Williams Gb Suzuki
13 B. Granath Swe Suzuki
14 G. Rossi Ita Suzuki
15 J. Findlay Aus Suzuki
16 G. Johnson Aus Suzuki
17 H. Regout Bel Yamaha
18 M. Wiener Aut Suzuki
19 L. Van Breda Saf Suzuki
20 G. Vogt Ger Suzuki
21 E. Coormans Bel Suzuki
22 J. Hogrel Fra But
B. Van Dulmen Ola Suzuki rit.
F. Heller Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Baker Usa Suzuki rit.
F. Rau Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Parrish Gb Suzuki rit.
J. Ekerold Saf Fath rit.
B. Kneubuhler Sui Suzuki rit.
J. Newbold Gb Suzuki rit.
B. Nielsen Den Suzuki rit.
C. Scheepens Ola Suzuki rit.
D. Alblas Ola Suzuki rit.
P. Coulon Fra Suzuki rit.
J. Cecotto Ven Yamaha rit.
V. Ferrari Ita Suzuki rit.
Originally posted by ESSEXBOY
it doesn't matter if it is in or out of focus ,under or over exposed ,it just captures the period,
it doesn't matter if it is in or out of focus ,under or over exposed ,it just captures the period,
This fits that category
Fastest lap GP Spa-Francorchamps 1978, Michel Rougerie, 3.51.7 = 219.387 km/h on a partly wet track
spot on Mike!
never seen that one anywhere!
never seen that one anywhere!
After your deductions and mine we can see from left to right
Sheene
Roberts
Hartog
Williams
Lucchinelli
Woodley
Findlay
George
Ferrari
Newbold
V Dulmen
xxx with yellow helmet
Baker ?
Ekerold
Van Breda
xxx with green-white helmet
Cecotto
Herron
Nielsen
Rougerie
Katayama
xxx
xxx
Kneubulher
Johnson ?
Lansivuori
Coulon
Rossi
Alblas
Ireland
Granath ? one of the 2 yellow helmets
Wiener
xxx
Parrish
xxx
Hogrel
Sheene
Roberts
Hartog
Williams
Lucchinelli
Woodley
Findlay
George
Ferrari
Newbold
V Dulmen
xxx with yellow helmet
Baker ?
Ekerold
Van Breda
xxx with green-white helmet
Cecotto
Herron
Nielsen
Rougerie
Katayama
xxx
xxx
Kneubulher
Johnson ?
Lansivuori
Coulon
Rossi
Alblas
Ireland
Granath ? one of the 2 yellow helmets
Wiener
xxx
Parrish
xxx
Hogrel
Originally posted by picblanc
Here is one my Granny did take!! WWW? I have been working on these as they are damaged slides light got in them!!, but I have been able to rescue most of them courtesy of Photoshop!!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Here is one my Granny did take!! WWW? I have been working on these as they are damaged slides
light got in them!!, but I have been able to rescue most of them courtesy of Photoshop!!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Gianni Rolando, Silversone '78, 350?
Paul M
Originally posted by renzo
at last i have something in common with Agostini!.
a bald patch.
at last i have something in common with Agostini!.
a bald patch.
Apparently me too Dennis
[img][IMG]http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/5246/agoroywx4.jpg[/img][/IMG]
a bald patch.
definition of a bald patch = a solar panel for a love machine
Nobby Clarke?,noticed him recently at the Goodwood FOS,wonder what he is doing now?
IIRC he did a stint a while back for TEAM OBSOLETE think that ended a little acrimoniously
I think most people could fall out with Rob the Nob!
definition of a bald patch = a solar panel for a love machine
Nobby Clarke?,noticed him recently at the Goodwood FOS,wonder what he is doing now?
IIRC he did a stint a while back for TEAM OBSOLETE think that ended a little acrimoniously
I think most people could fall out with Rob the Nob!
Originally posted by chrisb
Thank-you, thank you thank you!!
Thank-you, thank you thank you!!
Nice to see the engineer wearing colour coded overalls and a helmet!!!!!???!!!! Even got his riders name on his back.
Originally posted by antony duprat
Sorry to come after the battle,but "Bonjour à tous !"
The 1978 Belgium GPClassement:with all the starters
1 W. Hartog Ola Suzuki 39'54''
2 K. Roberts Usa Yamaha a 12''020
3 B. Sheene Gb Suzuki a 15''000
4 M. Rougerie Fra Suzuki a 17''700 3'51''700
5 T. Lansivuori Fin Suzuki a 1'15''300
6 T. Katayama Gia Yamaha
7 M. Lucchinelli Ita Suzuki
8 A. George Gb Suzuki
9 W. Herron Gb Suzuki
10 D. Ireland Nz Suzuki
11 J. Woodley Nz Suzuki
12 J. Williams Gb Suzuki
13 B. Granath Swe Suzuki
14 G. Rossi Ita Suzuki
15 J. Findlay Aus Suzuki
16 G. Johnson Aus Suzuki
17 H. Regout Bel Yamaha
18 M. Wiener Aut Suzuki
19 L. Van Breda Saf Suzuki
20 G. Vogt Ger Suzuki
21 E. Coormans Bel Suzuki
22 J. Hogrel Fra But
B. Van Dulmen Ola Suzuki rit.
F. Heller Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Baker Usa Suzuki rit.
F. Rau Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Parrish Gb Suzuki rit.
J. Ekerold Saf Fath rit.
B. Kneubuhler Sui Suzuki rit.
J. Newbold Gb Suzuki rit.
B. Nielsen Den Suzuki rit.
C. Scheepens Ola Suzuki rit.
D. Alblas Ola Suzuki rit.
P. Coulon Fra Suzuki rit.
J. Cecotto Ven Yamaha rit.
V. Ferrari Ita Suzuki rit.
Sorry to come after the battle,but "Bonjour à tous !"
The 1978 Belgium GPClassement:with all the starters
1 W. Hartog Ola Suzuki 39'54''
2 K. Roberts Usa Yamaha a 12''020
3 B. Sheene Gb Suzuki a 15''000
4 M. Rougerie Fra Suzuki a 17''700 3'51''700
5 T. Lansivuori Fin Suzuki a 1'15''300
6 T. Katayama Gia Yamaha
7 M. Lucchinelli Ita Suzuki
8 A. George Gb Suzuki
9 W. Herron Gb Suzuki
10 D. Ireland Nz Suzuki
11 J. Woodley Nz Suzuki
12 J. Williams Gb Suzuki
13 B. Granath Swe Suzuki
14 G. Rossi Ita Suzuki
15 J. Findlay Aus Suzuki
16 G. Johnson Aus Suzuki
17 H. Regout Bel Yamaha
18 M. Wiener Aut Suzuki
19 L. Van Breda Saf Suzuki
20 G. Vogt Ger Suzuki
21 E. Coormans Bel Suzuki
22 J. Hogrel Fra But
B. Van Dulmen Ola Suzuki rit.
F. Heller Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Baker Usa Suzuki rit.
F. Rau Ger Suzuki rit.
S. Parrish Gb Suzuki rit.
J. Ekerold Saf Fath rit.
B. Kneubuhler Sui Suzuki rit.
J. Newbold Gb Suzuki rit.
B. Nielsen Den Suzuki rit.
C. Scheepens Ola Suzuki rit.
D. Alblas Ola Suzuki rit.
P. Coulon Fra Suzuki rit.
J. Cecotto Ven Yamaha rit.
V. Ferrari Ita Suzuki rit.
The way it should be - 36 starters. Wonder how many went home not having qualified? Just like MotoGP these days really.
Originally posted by mfd
This fits that category
This fits that category
Thinks - "These bits of plastic gafferd onto the fairing will keep my hands warm in this Godforsaken country"
Good idea though, what with the hot air blowers in the garages at later Transatlantics.
We were just hard Englishmen though and froze our t*ts off instead!
Originally posted by Macca
Gianni Rolando, Silversone '78, 350?
Paul M
Gianni Rolando, Silversone '78, 350?
Paul M
Yes Paul Gianni Rolando 1978.
WWW?
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Originally posted by Shieldsmariner
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
The 1994/95 edition of Motocourse makes reference to the first Cagiva appearing in 1979, although this was based upon a Suzuki. It was rumoured that a crankcase had mysteriously disappeared from the Suzuki headquarters in 1978 - the 1979 Cagiva used copies of this crankcase surmounted by various production RG500 components.
Andy
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
The 1994/95 edition of Motocourse makes reference to the first Cagiva appearing in 1979, although this was based upon a Suzuki. It was rumoured that a crankcase had mysteriously disappeared from the Suzuki headquarters in 1978 - the 1979 Cagiva used copies of this crankcase surmounted by various production RG500 components.
Andy
Originally posted ·elsewhere· by subh
Michael Scott wrote the following, which pretty much confirms what you said:
“Cagiva’s racing history is littered with strange tales hinting at technical piracy and secret liaisons with supposed rivals: the charge is that they caught up with the Japanese (eventually) not merely by copying them, but by actually using the same component dimensions. This suggested a more or less covert exchange of drawings or even parts, especially with Yamaha. It is common knowledge that many intimate parts of their second-generation 1987 V4 - parts such as crankshafts and pistons - were interchangeable with Yamaha components; there were also parallel chassis developments, notably the banana-curved arched swing arm of 1988, that seemed far too similar to be a coincidence.
“Claudio Castiglioni, the brother with the higher public profile, was always staunch in his denials that there was any link whatsoever with Yamaha, or with anybody else. Yet tales of skulduggery had been with Cagiva right from the very start, including a persistent belief that the disappearance of a works Suzuki crankcase from the team’s British headquarters in 1978 was closely linked with the appearance in 1979 of the first ‘Cagiva’, which appeared to have copy square-four crankcases, surmounted by a collection of freely available Suzuki RG500 production racer components. The bike was ridden by Scotsman Alex George, managing a couple of 13th-placed finishes before disappearing into history.
“They were back in 1980 with the new Cagiva painted in the proud red-and-silver colours of the old MV team. There were other MV links too, including team boss Arturo Magni, who now filled the same role at Cagiva. This was a different machine, but still not entirely their own. On top of an in-line four Yamaha crankcase they’d put their own cylinders, without exhaust valves but with reed-valve induction. This was an early use of a system that took three or more years to become the class norm. But the bike was raced only once, at the Nürburgring on 24 August, in the hands of Virginio Ferrari. He qualified 25th, well off the pace.”
Michael Scott wrote the following, which pretty much confirms what you said:
“Cagiva’s racing history is littered with strange tales hinting at technical piracy and secret liaisons with supposed rivals: the charge is that they caught up with the Japanese (eventually) not merely by copying them, but by actually using the same component dimensions. This suggested a more or less covert exchange of drawings or even parts, especially with Yamaha. It is common knowledge that many intimate parts of their second-generation 1987 V4 - parts such as crankshafts and pistons - were interchangeable with Yamaha components; there were also parallel chassis developments, notably the banana-curved arched swing arm of 1988, that seemed far too similar to be a coincidence.
“Claudio Castiglioni, the brother with the higher public profile, was always staunch in his denials that there was any link whatsoever with Yamaha, or with anybody else. Yet tales of skulduggery had been with Cagiva right from the very start, including a persistent belief that the disappearance of a works Suzuki crankcase from the team’s British headquarters in 1978 was closely linked with the appearance in 1979 of the first ‘Cagiva’, which appeared to have copy square-four crankcases, surmounted by a collection of freely available Suzuki RG500 production racer components. The bike was ridden by Scotsman Alex George, managing a couple of 13th-placed finishes before disappearing into history.
“They were back in 1980 with the new Cagiva painted in the proud red-and-silver colours of the old MV team. There were other MV links too, including team boss Arturo Magni, who now filled the same role at Cagiva. This was a different machine, but still not entirely their own. On top of an in-line four Yamaha crankcase they’d put their own cylinders, without exhaust valves but with reed-valve induction. This was an early use of a system that took three or more years to become the class norm. But the bike was raced only once, at the Nürburgring on 24 August, in the hands of Virginio Ferrari. He qualified 25th, well off the pace.”
Originally posted by mfd
This fits that category
This fits that category
I have one of those taken by my Granny!
Not so cold at Brands Hatch as Mallory?
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
I've not yet looked inside a Yamaha to spy the ex valves but someone told me the ones in the Cagiva I had here recently were "very similar". Anyone confirm that?
Originally posted by picblanc
I have one of those taken by my Granny! Not so cold at Brands Hatch as Mallory?
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
I have one of those taken by my Granny!
Not so cold at Brands Hatch as Mallory?
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Transatlantic sticker missing as well. Perhaps the heat peeled it off.
Looks like rubber gloves under the leather ones though.
I have one of those taken by my Granny! Not so cold at Brands Hatch as Mallory?
Granny what steady hands you have ,and top a notch camera too!
nice shot Fu
Granny what steady hands you have ,and top a notch camera too!
nice shot Fu
You’re doing well for Belgium 1978. More right answers:
8 Katayama, 10 Coulon, 14 Findlay, 24 Nielsen, 28 Rau, 30 Rougerie, 39 Woodley.
Yes on Rossi (29) and Wiener (37) and Ekerold (40 not 48 but they are difficult to see).
Someone suggested Ireland for number 46, but he isn’t in the programme and the entry goes up to 45. Could be a late entry, or maybe it’s the number 45 rider you’ve seen?
8 Katayama, 10 Coulon, 14 Findlay, 24 Nielsen, 28 Rau, 30 Rougerie, 39 Woodley.
Yes on Rossi (29) and Wiener (37) and Ekerold (40 not 48 but they are difficult to see).
Someone suggested Ireland for number 46, but he isn’t in the programme and the entry goes up to 45. Could be a late entry, or maybe it’s the number 45 rider you’ve seen?
Originally posted by Shieldsmariner
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
Andy
According to the programme for the Dutch TT, which was held a week before the Belgian race, Lucchinelli rode a Suzuki with Cagiva listed as his entrant. I can only assume that this arrangement continued for the whole of 1978.
Andy
Andy,
Do you have many GP programmes from those days, and do you have a way of making copies of the entry lists that you could send me? Please send a message if you can help.
Dan
Originally posted by picblanc
WWW?
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WWW?
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Hubert Rigal 1979?? brands hatch???
Time to dust off a couple more shots of the OW31(Customer) Yamaha from 1977 & 1978
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Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
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Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Originally posted by ESSEXBOY
[B]I have one of those taken by my Granny! Not so cold at Brands Hatch as Mallory?
Granny what steady hands you have ,and top a notch camera too!
nice shot Fu [/B]
[B]I have one of those taken by my Granny! Not so cold at Brands Hatch as Mallory?
Granny what steady hands you have ,and top a notch camera too!
nice shot Fu
[/B]I thank you Sir,
Originally posted by subh
Someone suggested Ireland for number 46, but he isn’t in the programme
Someone suggested Ireland for number 46, but he isn’t in the programme
...but he is in Motocourse with #46, so correct
Originally posted by jeff sayle
Hubert Rigal 1979?? brands hatch???
Hubert Rigal 1979?? brands hatch???
Yep well done Jeff, Hubert Rigal it is at BH in 1978.
Originally posted by PaulMB
Looks like rubber gloves under the leather ones though.
Looks like rubber gloves under the leather ones though.
Borrowed them off Graham, who obviously didn't need them ;)
This picture is taken during one of the greatest races I have seen, but it ended in disaster on the last lap when four abreast into the top of Paddock Hill didn't go!!
Who are they?
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Who are they?
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Originally posted by mfd
Borrowed them off Graham, who obviously didn't need them ;)
Borrowed them off Graham, who obviously didn't need them ;)
No! heat wave at Brands that Easter!!
Originally posted by picblanc
This picture is taken during one of the greatest races I have seen, but it ended in disaster on the last lap when four abreast into the top of Paddock Hill didn't go!!
Who are they?
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
This picture is taken during one of the greatest races I have seen, but it ended in disaster on the last lap when four abreast into the top of Paddock Hill didn't go!!
Who are they?
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Number 20 is Tony head.
That al back to the studio..
-Leif
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