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A Seeley perhaps ?? Looks a bit like Colin ?
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Jeff or Murray ?
Jeff or Murray ?
Sorry , that Sayled over my head
Originally posted by exclubracer
A Seeley perhaps ?? Looks a bit like Colin ?
A Seeley perhaps ?? Looks a bit like Colin ?
No , they make power tools
Originally posted by fil2.8
No , they make power tools
No , they make power tools
Thanks for that Phil, ahem
What period are we talking about Phil?
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
What period are we talking about Phil?
What period are we talking about Phil?
Involved at the top level mid '70's to late '80's
Youve got me on this one mate..... 
Originally posted by fil2.8
Involved at the top level mid '70's to late '80's
Involved at the top level mid '70's to late '80's
Fran Ridewood?
Originally posted by picblanc
Fran Ridewood?
Fran Ridewood?
Educated guess
but no Mr Fu 
He and his brother at a higher level than that 
Ah, got it - Ron Croxford.
Originally posted by fil2.8
Educated guess but no Mr Fu He and his brother at a higher level than that
Educated guess
but no Mr Fu He and his brother at a higher level than that How about his initials then?
Was he a racer or sponsor!?
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
Ah, got it - Ron Croxford.
Ah, got it - Ron Croxford.
No
Originally posted by picblanc
How a factory Norton rider was treated in 1975, a luxury van was provided for his comfort!! Norton certainly spoiled their riders back then!!
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How a factory Norton rider was treated in 1975, a luxury van was provided for his comfort!! Norton certainly spoiled their riders back then!!
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It actually got worse than this when his team truck/motorhome turned up at imola 1976. Somehow they had grafted a Concord style nose on it and it was laughable. Then poor pld Dave could'nt put a lap in without the bike misfiring or whatever. anyone have apic of that motorhome/truck?
Originally posted by picblanc
How about his initials then?
Was he a racer or sponsor!?
How about his initials then?
Was he a racer or sponsor!?
He was neither
Ps it's PS
Originally posted by fil2.8
He was neither Ps it's PS
He was neither
Ps it's PS Nah!! I'm out!
Originally posted by picblanc
Nah!! I'm out!
Nah!! I'm out!
chrisb would know him
( and so would many top class riders )
This is the only bit of Norton Truck/motorhome I have, might not be the same one, this from 1974, although I doubt they splashed out on a new one?
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and again!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
and again!
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I'll show you a pic of my dog while i'm waiting for an answer 
Originally posted by fil2.8
chrisb would know him ( and so would many top class riders )
chrisb would know him
( and so would many top class riders ) 
Originally posted by fil2.8
I'll show you a pic of my dog while i'm waiting for an answer
I'll show you a pic of my dog while i'm waiting for an answer
Its true what they say...that dog owners resemble their dogs!
Originally posted by picblanc
I'll leave it open a few minutes more
No , they make power tools
Is it Mr Black or Mr Decker?? :\ :\ :\
Originally posted by fil2.8
Ok smart-arses who's this with Bill --go on impress me 
Ok smart-arses
who's this with Bill --go on impress me Right gang it's ex Ted Broad / Dave Potter ---Honda Great Britain mechanic Pete Sleat
his brother being Dave . Also Petes Bill's next door neighbour
Originally posted by fil2.8
Right gang it's ex Ted Broad / Dave Potter ---Honda Great Britain mechanic Pete Sleat his brother being Dave . Also Petes Bill's next door neighbour
Right gang it's ex Ted Broad / Dave Potter ---Honda Great Britain mechanic Pete Sleat
his brother being Dave . Also Petes Bill's next door neighbour
Originally posted by Russell Burrows
That's what I said 1967 though ..I think. Sort of had to be overnight really......
That's what I said
1967 though ..I think. Sort of had to be overnight really...... I thought that I read they staggered it for maximum effect
I remember reading about Sweden changing over, and I too believe that it was the year of "E" registration, 1967. (my dad told me
)
Originally posted by picblanc
Yup, me too Graham
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
Jeff, seems a bit rich to me but if folk are prepared to pay for it then thats the going rate... out of my league I am afraid even if WW has fettled it
Originally posted by jeff sayle
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
It might be this one,http://cgi.ebay.ca/YAMAHA-TZ-750_W0QQitemZ...1QQcmdZViewItem
As regards price..dunno! if I had that spare I would have it!. :\
Originally posted by jeff sayle
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
If it's all up together and un-molested seems about right .Seen them go for more . As always Jeff , the market dictates the worth
Originally posted by jeff sayle
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
Gentleman, a quick question, had a friend send me an email regarding a TZ750 on ebay for $50,000.00 aussie dollars, is this the going rate or is a bit rich????
Jeff.
I think it's always wise to be extremely wary of 'ex-works' tackle on sale on evilbay, no comebacks if it's a cocked up production model i.e. OW31 was a works bike IIRC. For example, why not fit the original wheels and add the others as spares coming with the bike? Is there any official provenance/documentation? It's a big lump of money for a bike with uncertain heritage, to say the least. I would have thought that machinery like this would be snapped up 'in the trade', without ever going on an internet auction unless it's just a 'toe in the water', so to speak. Just my opinion.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!
BTW, how much is that in REAL money ??
Originally posted by exclubracer
Jeff.
I think it's always wise to be extremely wary of 'ex-works' tackle on sale on evilbay, no comebacks if it's a cocked up production model i.e. OW31 was a works bike IIRC. For example, why not fit the original wheels and add the others as spares coming with the bike? Is there any official provenance/documentation? It's a big lump of money for a bike with uncertain heritage, to say the least. I would have thought that machinery like this would be snapped up 'in the trade', without ever going on an internet auction unless it's just a 'toe in the water', so to speak. Just my opinion.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!
BTW, how much is that in REAL money ??
Jeff.
I think it's always wise to be extremely wary of 'ex-works' tackle on sale on evilbay, no comebacks if it's a cocked up production model i.e. OW31 was a works bike IIRC. For example, why not fit the original wheels and add the others as spares coming with the bike? Is there any official provenance/documentation? It's a big lump of money for a bike with uncertain heritage, to say the least. I would have thought that machinery like this would be snapped up 'in the trade', without ever going on an internet auction unless it's just a 'toe in the water', so to speak. Just my opinion.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!
BTW, how much is that in REAL money ??
£25000?
Originally posted by exclubracer
Jeff.
I think it's always wise to be extremely wary of 'ex-works' tackle on sale on evilbay, no comebacks if it's a cocked up production model i.e. OW31 was a works bike IIRC. For example, why not fit the original wheels and add the others as spares coming with the bike? Is there any official provenance/documentation? It's a big lump of money for a bike with uncertain heritage, to say the least. I would have thought that machinery like this would be snapped up 'in the trade', without ever going on an internet auction unless it's just a 'toe in the water', so to speak. Just my opinion.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!
BTW, how much is that in REAL money ??
Jeff.
I think it's always wise to be extremely wary of 'ex-works' tackle on sale on evilbay, no comebacks if it's a cocked up production model i.e. OW31 was a works bike IIRC. For example, why not fit the original wheels and add the others as spares coming with the bike? Is there any official provenance/documentation? It's a big lump of money for a bike with uncertain heritage, to say the least. I would have thought that machinery like this would be snapped up 'in the trade', without ever going on an internet auction unless it's just a 'toe in the water', so to speak. Just my opinion.
CAVEAT EMPTOR!!
BTW, how much is that in REAL money ??
Evilbay,LOL.
I wasn't thinking of buying it, have wasted my money on bikes in a previous life, was just interested, sounded fairly expensive to me.
Thanks Jeff
Originally posted by picblanc
£25000?
£25000?
Oh you've changed your mind Mr Fu
. Actually it's somewhere between at a guess 19ish . Might have changed your mind again as this is posted !!!
Originally posted by picblanc
£25000?
£25000?
I'd have a punt at that if if it was a genuine OW31, be nice sat in my lounge !! (dream on, Mick !!)
Seriously though, I doubt that a genuine works bike would ever surface for sale on e-bay, although I am always ready to be corrected !!
BTW Graham, an excellent post from you re Norman Brown's sister, please ask her to keep in contact with the forum as he was a much loved and a much respected rider.
Originally posted by exclubracer
BTW Graham, an excellent post from you re Norman Brown's sister, please ask her to keep in contact with the forum as he was a much loved and a much respected rider.
BTW Graham, an excellent post from you re Norman Brown's sister, please ask her to keep in contact with the forum as he was a much loved and a much respected rider.
And so say all of us
Originally posted by jeff sayle
Evilbay,LOL.
I wasn't thinking of buying it, have wasted my money on bikes in a previous life, was just interested, sounded fairly expensive to me.
Thanks Jeff
Evilbay,LOL.
I wasn't thinking of buying it, have wasted my money on bikes in a previous life, was just interested, sounded fairly expensive to me.
Thanks Jeff
Hi Jeff.
I don't know about in Oz but in the UK there is a perception that things 'may not always be as they seem' where internet auction sites are concerned, I've seen bikes and parts which were claimed to be 'ex-works' or 'GP works parts' that would never stand up to scrutiny by anyone who had any basic knowledge of race bikes.
As always. yer takes yer choice and yer makes up yer mind, but never take it at face value.
That's the Lancashire in me tekkin' ower..
Originally posted by picblanc
We have had this guy before I think Stefan? sadly I have forgotten his name!!
We have had this guy before I think Stefan? sadly I have forgotten his name!!
No more offers on this WWW?
Come on Stefan, put us out of our misery!
I still think it's Hans Muller.
p.s. ...where's the piccy gone?
50K for a TZ750? or return first class airfare to Scotland, play the Old Course at St Andrews and spend the change on single malt and Cohiba Siglo IV's. Tough decision......not.
or return first class airfare to Scotland, play the Old Course at St Andrews and spend the change on single malt and Cohiba Siglo IV's. Tough decision......not.
Originally posted by exclubracer
No more offers on this WWW?
Come on Stefan, put us out of our misery!
I still think it's Hans Muller.
p.s. ...where's the piccy gone?
No more offers on this WWW?
Come on Stefan, put us out of our misery!
I still think it's Hans Muller.
p.s. ...where's the piccy gone?
Sorry, but I am offline over night...
Hans Müller was close - it is Hartmut Müller and the year is 1984 !
Next one - I think something like that would be impossible today
This must be Thierry Espié aboard a 350 Chevallier Yamaha at the 1982 German GP - Thierry was a factory rider on the 250 Pernod but I remember that for some strange reason he took a couple of late-season rides on a spare 350 Chevallier of Didier de Radigues - hence his Pernod leathers on a Johnson-sponsored bike.
But of course, Espié, Pernod and Chevallier were rather close, Espié had already ridden a Pernod-sponsored Chevallier in earlier years, just like Rougerie or poor Olivier Chevallier himself had done before him - and Thierry joined the Chevallier team in 1983, with Elf-sponsorship that time .
But of course, Espié, Pernod and Chevallier were rather close, Espié had already ridden a Pernod-sponsored Chevallier in earlier years, just like Rougerie or poor Olivier Chevallier himself had done before him - and Thierry joined the Chevallier team in 1983, with Elf-sponsorship that time .
Originally posted by philippe7
This must be Thierry Espié aboard a 350 Chevallier Yamaha at the 1982 German GP - Thierry was a factory rider on the 250 Pernod but I remember that for some strange reason he took a couple of late-season rides on a spare 350 Chevallier of Didier de Radigues - hence his Pernod leathers on a Johnson-sponsored bike.
But of course, Espié, Pernod and Chevallier were rather close, Espié had already ridden a Pernod-sponsored Chevallier in earlier years, just like Rougerie or poor Olivier Chevallier himself had done before him - and Thierry joined the Chevallier team in 1983, with Elf-sponsorship that time .
This must be Thierry Espié aboard a 350 Chevallier Yamaha at the 1982 German GP - Thierry was a factory rider on the 250 Pernod but I remember that for some strange reason he took a couple of late-season rides on a spare 350 Chevallier of Didier de Radigues - hence his Pernod leathers on a Johnson-sponsored bike.
But of course, Espié, Pernod and Chevallier were rather close, Espié had already ridden a Pernod-sponsored Chevallier in earlier years, just like Rougerie or poor Olivier Chevallier himself had done before him - and Thierry joined the Chevallier team in 1983, with Elf-sponsorship that time .
Correct ! Thierry Espie it is !
Was he really doing the 350cc race in this leathers, too ? My assumption was that he wears them because there may not have been enough time to change leathers between 250cc and 350cc practice sessions.
I did not know that he was no regular rider for the Johnson 350cc team in 1982 - that makes the thing even more remarkable, as Didier de Radigues was still fighting for the 350cc title at the German GP 1982
[QUOTE]Originally posted by exclubracer
Hi Jeff.
I don't know about in Oz but in the UK there is a perception that things 'may not always be as they seem' where internet auction sites are concerned, I've seen bikes and parts which were claimed to be 'ex-works' or 'GP works parts' that would never stand up to scrutiny by anyone who had any basic knowledge of race bikes.
As always. yer takes yer choice and yer makes up yer mind, but never take it at face value.
That's the Lancashire in me tekkin' ower.. [/QUOTE
I saw this bike at Marcus De Caux's place last year when i went with a german mate off mine to by a neat TD2..lovely it was. Its the bike Ron Boulden ran in Australia and its far from a factory OW31 although its pretty neat. I wondered why the rear tyre was so narrow and the engine so wide to which Warren Willing commented " the Jack Daniels is ruining your memory"
FYI $50,000 is about 20k GB..still a bloody lot
Hi Jeff.
I don't know about in Oz but in the UK there is a perception that things 'may not always be as they seem' where internet auction sites are concerned, I've seen bikes and parts which were claimed to be 'ex-works' or 'GP works parts' that would never stand up to scrutiny by anyone who had any basic knowledge of race bikes.
As always. yer takes yer choice and yer makes up yer mind, but never take it at face value.
That's the Lancashire in me tekkin' ower.. [/QUOTE
I saw this bike at Marcus De Caux's place last year when i went with a german mate off mine to by a neat TD2..lovely it was. Its the bike Ron Boulden ran in Australia and its far from a factory OW31 although its pretty neat. I wondered why the rear tyre was so narrow and the engine so wide to which Warren Willing commented " the Jack Daniels is ruining your memory"
FYI $50,000 is about 20k GB..still a bloody lot
Or your waist
Just been whatching Oulton Pk from 1979 on ESPN Kenny Roberts running away with the race but a really good battle behind with Potter, Parish, Grant and Jeff Sayle giving Barry Sheene a really hard time to finish just behind him to take 3rd great race
Steve.
Steve.
Originally posted by flightlessbird
Or your waist
Or your waist
We have met?
Originally posted by philippe7
Espié had already ridden a Pernod-sponsored Chevallier in earlier years, just like Rougerie or poor Olivier Chevallier himself had done before him - and Thierry joined the Chevallier team in 1983, with Elf-sponsorship that time .
Espié had already ridden a Pernod-sponsored Chevallier in earlier years, just like Rougerie or poor Olivier Chevallier himself had done before him - and Thierry joined the Chevallier team in 1983, with Elf-sponsorship that time .
Phileppe, you forgot Baldé and Saul who also rode the Chevallier.
Originally posted by Steve O'Brien
Just been whatching Oulton Pk from 1979 on ESPN Kenny Roberts running away with the race but a really good battle behind with Potter, Parish, Grant and Jeff Sayle giving Barry Sheene a really hard time to finish just behind him to take 3rd great race
Steve.
Just been whatching Oulton Pk from 1979 on ESPN Kenny Roberts running away with the race but a really good battle behind with Potter, Parish, Grant and Jeff Sayle giving Barry Sheene a really hard time to finish just behind him to take 3rd great race
Steve.
Remember this race well, one of my better rides on the 750. Actually loved riding at Oulton Park, always had reasonable results there.
Great stuff Andy, thank you very much!!
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
Originally posted by jeff sayle
Remember this race well, one of my better rides on the 750. Actually loved riding at Oulton Park, always had reasonable results there.
Remember this race well, one of my better rides on the 750. Actually loved riding at Oulton Park, always had reasonable results there.
It's a different circuit now Jeff, chicanes everywhere.
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