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exclubracer

Dec 3 2008, 19:03

Originally posted by picblanc
Great stuff Andy, thank you very much!!

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Dennis and Julia Bingham, Silverstone '84 ?

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 19:09

Originally posted by exclubracer

Dennis and Julia Bingham, Silverstone '84 ?

correct Mick.

ESSEXBOY

Dec 3 2008, 19:55

Dave Sleat
ex gus kuhn,ex honda britain

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 20:03

Originally posted by ESSEXBOY
Dave Sleat
ex gus kuhn,ex honda britain

Of course it is!! I don't know why I didn't recognize him in the first place!!

fil2.8

Dec 3 2008, 20:23

Originally posted by picblanc

Of course it is!! I don't know why I didn't recognize him in the first place!!

Thats Dave Sleat not Pete !!!!!

Mr Fu

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 20:41

Originally posted by fil2.8

Thats Dave Sleat not Pete !!!!! Mr Fu

Thats why I didn't recognize him!!

fil2.8

Dec 3 2008, 21:04

Originally posted by picblanc

Thats why I didn't recognize him!!

Poor excuse

sterling49

Dec 3 2008, 21:09

Originally posted by fil2.8

Poor excuse

philippe7

Dec 3 2008, 21:30

Originally posted by seh1066
Correct ! Thierry Espie it is !
Was he really doing the 350cc race in this leathers, too ? My assumption was that he wears them because there may not have been enough time to change leathers between 250cc and 350cc practice sessions.
I did not know that he was no regular rider for the Johnson 350cc team in 1982 - that makes the thing even more remarkable, as Didier de Radigues was still fighting for the 350cc title at the German GP 1982

Actually, that may well be the reason Stefan ....There's a faint bell ringing in my ageing memory that Espié was hired by Alain Chevallier for the last two races in the hope of helping De Radigues win the world title by taking points away from Tony Mang - he finished 4th in Brno, but failed to score in Germany, which did not matter after all since De Radigues retired .

Funny that at the same German Grand Prix, Espié was also part of the "french plot" which helped Tournadre win the 250cc title, with success that time

philippe7

Dec 3 2008, 21:40

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer

Phileppe, you forgot Baldé and Saul who also rode the Chevallier.

Yes, they did Rhodie, but what I meant was riders who rode Chevallier's with Pernod sponsorship , which Baldé never did * - but which, I just remembered, Eric Saul indeed did in 1980, when his career had almost stalled and Alain Chevallier called him to offer him to take over his brother's own Pernod-sponsored machines, after Olivier's fatal accident. Remarkable, incidentally, that Alain didn't just pack up and go home after his brother's death, but managed to overcome his grief to continue the Chevallier team in memory of Ollie...

* before riding the unsuccessful Chevallier-framed Pernod-engined machine in 1985 , of course

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 21:54

WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

royston

Dec 3 2008, 21:55

I remember those chevalliers up for sale at one of the racing shows. The racing and sporting show? used to be held at The horticultural halls just off the embankment and then they moved it. I think (come on brain

) it went to chiswick which is where i saw these bikes. I was interested in the 250 which used the hjkl motor. The bike was a beauty and for sale at a reasonable price. This was in Jan 84 i think. So i went and got a decorite rotax, harris beam frame 16' front wheel etc. Hello tarmac!
Not one of my better moves.
Sure i read they are in france now.

royston

Dec 3 2008, 21:59

Originally posted by picblanc
WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

1984 Brands Hatch on the approach to bottom bend, Armstrong Rotax............. Graham Young??

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 22:02

One like this? a 1983 model.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

What on earth is a HJKL motor? or have you left out the vowels!!?

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 22:03

Originally posted by royston

1984 Brands Hatch on the approach to bottom bend, Armstrong Rotax............. Graham Young??

Not Graham & not 1984 but yes to the rest old boy!

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 22:10

Originally posted by royston
I remember those chevalliers up for sale at one of the racing shows. The racing and sporting show? used to be held at The horticultural halls just off the embankment and then they moved it. I think (come on brain ) it went to chiswick which is where i saw these bikes. I was interested in the 250 which used the hjkl motor. The bike was a beauty and for sale at a reasonable price. This was in Jan 84 i think. So i went and got a decorite rotax, harris beam frame 16' front wheel etc. Hello tarmac!
Not one of my better moves.
Sure i read they are in france now.

Did you see that Decorite at Brands a few weeks a go? just restored, Ex Kevin Mitchell owned by Neil Hodgsons dad.......Mark!?
Just looking for a piccy...back in a mo!

picblanc

Dec 3 2008, 22:25

Originally posted by picblanc

Did you see that Decorite at Brands a few weeks a go? just restored, Ex Kevin Mitchell owned by Neil Hodgsons dad.......Mark!?
Just looking for a piccy...back in a mo!

Infact there were two of em!

Photos Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
and this one!

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

So what was wrong with the bike then Roy, a bad design, or the 16" wheel? :\

downhill

Dec 3 2008, 22:30

Hells teeth! A Decorite......

My mate Phil got one of them, what a load of '@*%##'.
We never got it running right, should have kept with the trusty TZ, but it seemed like a good idea at the time!

royston

Dec 3 2008, 22:52

Originally posted by picblanc
One like this? a 1983 model.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

What on earth is a HJKL motor? or have you left out the vowels!!?

Sorry young man, i should have said a TZ 250 engine, first of the powervalves 1981 -1984. (81h,82j etc!)

fil2.8

Dec 3 2008, 22:56

Originally posted by royston

Sorry young man, i should have said a TZ 250 engine, first of the powervalves 1981 -1984. (81h,82j etc!)

Wow Roy , thats the first time anybody's called Mr Fu

a young man in 40 years

royston

Dec 3 2008, 23:17

The Decorite.
Looked the Bo$$ocks in 84 and i was well pleased when i got mine. It was one of the first beam frames and had the pneumatic powervalves.
The bike went great. In a straight line, easily going around the tzeds. In the corners it was, erm, interesting :\ :\
I fell off mine the first time i ran it, running it in at brands. (weds practice of course). Was taking it easy around druids when the front went, and split the fiberglass petrol tank. Stuart melen (remember him?) fell off his the next lap at bottom bend.
Looking back a lot of the blame could be attributed to the michelin tyres who were the only 16' manufacturer at the time. The wets were just as bad. Frustrating after using the dunlops for the previous seasons which never gave much trouble.
I sold mine after one too many crash and broken bones

royston

Dec 3 2008, 23:22

Originally posted by fil2.8

Wow Roy , thats the first time anybody's called Mr Fu a young man in 40 years

My attempt at reverse psychology after he called me old boy.

And me with me own hair

royston

Dec 3 2008, 23:23

Originally posted by picblanc

Not Graham & not 1984 but yes to the rest old boy!

83 then!

exclubracer

Dec 4 2008, 04:53

Originally posted by picblanc

Infact there were two of em!

Photos Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
and this one!

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

So what was wrong with the bike then Roy, a bad design, or the 16" wheel? :\

Good grief !!

A remote starter for a 250 ??

Whatever happened to 'a run and a bump' ?

What's the world coming to ??

fil2.8

Dec 4 2008, 07:45

Originally posted by royston

My attempt at reverse psychology after he called me old boy.

And me with me own hair

That makes two of us !!!

GD66

Dec 4 2008, 08:00

Good grief !!

A remote starter for a 250 ??

Whatever happened to 'a run and a bump' ?

What's the world coming to ??

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I know, Mick. But there are a lot of tired, twisted bodies in classic racing. Sure, you CAN run and bump 'em. But after you've used a starter a couple of times.... at first, you can take it or leave it, and friends encourage you to try it......then, you rubbish it, and go back to the run and bump.....then you weaken again.....and again....before long, you are pushing people aside to use it again....

LamboNZ

Dec 4 2008, 08:06

Do you have any pics of Andy watts riding for Decorite Graham? , apparently he had a falling out with the owner of the team,over a....personal incident! (but that is another story!!) and never rode it again.

Can also remember little Barry Utting riding the official purple and white Decorite bike for the team, used to struggle to start it though, with the Rotax cylinders firing together and Barry's short legs! (not a good combination)

Lambo

stuavant

Dec 4 2008, 08:30

They actually look the dogs bollocks. I think thou that at this stage no one had calculated flex into the chassis as being part of its overall operation and they were as stiff as hell, hence the lack of feeling in the front end..

Falloffski

Dec 4 2008, 09:12

Originally posted by picblanc

Of course it is!! I don't know why I didn't recognize him in the first place!!

OK chaps...... Dave Sleat/Honda Britain picture..........Your bonus questions are........

1) Where was the picture taken?

2) Who is that behind the front wheel?

PaulMB

Dec 4 2008, 09:14

Originally posted by picblanc

Grunty, Rex White and Nigel Everett, is that Paul (MB) in the blue may be? 1983?

Yep, thats me in the blue.

picblanc

Dec 4 2008, 09:19

Originally posted by royston

83 then!

No, before we go through the rest of the 1980's

its 1986.

picblanc

Dec 4 2008, 09:22

Originally posted by royston

My attempt at reverse psychology after he called me old boy.

And me with me own hair

He He He!! I still have got all my own hair!! its just not on me head anymore!!

LamboNZ

Dec 4 2008, 09:26

Originally posted by Falloffski

OK chaps...... Dave Sleat/Honda Britain picture..........Your bonus questions are........

1) Where was the picture taken?

2) Who is that behind the front wheel?

1) in the garage sheds of the Donnington Paddock, the opposite side to the pits, near the paddock entrance?

2) Ron williams? (wild guess)

LamboNZ

Dec 4 2008, 09:28

Originally posted by picblanc

He He He!! I still have got all my own hair!! its just not on me head anymore!!

palm of your hand now?

picblanc

Dec 4 2008, 09:28

Originally posted by picblanc
WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

No more takers on this one then, its infact Ian Young sadly lost at the TT a short while later.

picblanc

Dec 4 2008, 09:31

Originally posted by LamboNZ

palm of your hand now?

I've just had a look.... and not got any there matey!!

Falloffski

Dec 4 2008, 09:36

Originally posted by LamboNZ

1) in the garage sheds of the Donnington Paddock, the opposite side to the pits, near the paddock entrance?

2) Ron williams? (wild guess)

No, not Donnington. But TOP marks for rosy cheeked Ron Williams. Well Done!

LamboNZ

Dec 4 2008, 09:38

Originally posted by picblanc

No more takers on this one then, its infact Ian Young sadly lost at the TT a short while later.

Thanks Graham, thats been bugging me (his first name)

Keep up the posting of 250/350 riders please.

LamboNZ

Dec 4 2008, 09:42

Originally posted by Falloffski

No, not Donnington. But TOP marks for rosy cheeked Ron Williams. Well Done!

Somewhere in Douglas?

Falloffski

Dec 4 2008, 09:49

Originally posted by LamboNZ

Somewhere in Douglas?

Yes indeed. Douglas it is.

Mylcreests garage behind the Esplanade.

But do you know what year?

LamboNZ

Dec 4 2008, 10:09

Originally posted by Falloffski

Yes indeed. Douglas it is. Mylcreests garage behind the Esplanade.

But do you know what year?

1982?

exclubracer

Dec 4 2008, 10:19

I know, Mick. But there are a lot of tired, twisted bodies in classic racing. Sure, you CAN run and bump 'em. But after you've used a starter a couple of times.... at first, you can take it or leave it, and friends encourage you to try it......then, you rubbish it, and go back to the run and bump.....then you weaken again.....and again....before long, you are pushing people aside to use it again....

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LOL

How true !!

Falloffski

Dec 4 2008, 10:24

Originally posted by LamboNZ

1982?

Close......

Have another go.

ex Rhodie racer

Dec 4 2008, 12:10

Originally posted by Falloffski

Close......

Have another go.

1981 or 1983?

PS. That was a joke BTW.

Falloffski

Dec 4 2008, 12:20

Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer

1981 or 1983?

PS. That was a joke BTW.

Wasn't THAT close!

1984 was the year.

I remember it like it was only 24 years ago.................

fil2.8

Dec 4 2008, 13:09

Knock ,Knock Mr Fu

are you there or lurking

picblanc

Dec 4 2008, 13:10

Originally posted by fil2.8
Knock ,Knock Mr Fu are you there or lurking

I was lurking!!

picblanc

Dec 4 2008, 13:16

I like this photo! as I think it sums up British Club/National racing in the 1970's.
I dont know if anyone knows any of these guys, but can be a WWW? if you like?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

fil2.8

Dec 4 2008, 13:30

Hmmmmmmmmm good pic . Almost looks staged does'nt it ??? Cannot remember who rode the Pratts H/D ....... don't think Pete Sleat fettled it !!!

mfd

Dec 4 2008, 14:00

Originally posted by LamboNZ
Can also remember little Barry Utting riding the official purple and white Decorite bike for the team, used to struggle to start it though, with the Rotax cylinders firing together and Barry's short legs! (not a good combination) Lambo

I seem to remember Gordon Allott riding it too - anyone else?

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