Phil Carpenter?

Well!!.....Derek Huxley is right

No, not Phil, his bone dome was yellow and black, but similar to this one.

I believe you!!.... no really I do!!

#85 was also known as "B" H.

gh=graham hobbs

Meanwhile , back at Assen the new Schirtfinkle 3-stroke works rider Hugh Jarse warms up the beast

I love them Schirtfinkles!! night night!!

And yes you are 100% correct --the guy on the left is trying to give a dope test but of course Mr Jarse is a dope

104 Robin Drury? (No Graham - I'm on holiday )
118 Andy Bond?

Butchobbs

Trivia question since all you guys are asleep. How does a Swiss helmet company come up with the KIWI name for there helmets?

I would have thought you'd have known - you wore them! Some folk used to think it was funny I named one of our dogs, Kiwi, after a helmet, but they were wrong, I just liked the name...

Just been reading by chance some of the Motocourse from 76, where you made your 500 debut & came home almost sixth, pipped by Palomo it said..

I was being a smart arse really ( I knew the answer ) because I asked them the question when I signed a deal with them in 1980ish..I was ready for the " oh we did it because Kiwis perform so well in sport or whatever". Turned out the staff were invited to enter a contest to name the new helmet and someone sugested Kiwi..bit of a let down for us NZ'ers............ :\ Mike can you give me a link to your wbsite. thanks

Andy Bond yes

Only two left I think, and not so known guys... so to re cap who is who,

#105 Michael Quaife
#43 Steve Wright
#73 Derek Huxley
104 Richard Dowland
#85 Grahame Butch Hobbs
#118 Andy Bond
#119 Keith Hanford
1978 PBI at Brands.

Another quiet difficult one? WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

one is a from the European Continent, the other 3 are Brits.

And what about the NZi helmets that some of the GP riders are using now, is there any significance to it?

You can get to Mike's website if you click on his profile Stu.

Druids
#178 is Alex Taylor
# 155 Andy Hawkins?
#58 looks a bit like Steve May, was he still racing in 1982?

Hi Ngel, Yep Alex Taylor #178.

For info there is a reunion of the Howard Lees Racing Team at Brands on 4th & 5th October.
Quite a few of the "Old" Machines will be ridden, on both Saturday & Sunday.

See web site http://www.howardleesracing.co.uk/

Happy Days

Hello Steve Those young Japanese ladies wore very little. IIRC sometimes in "RidingSport" they had their own special page!

Welcome back Steve . We haven't heard from you in a while .
What have you been up to ?

He's gone again!!

OK this was a difficult one and only one guessed right so your silence indicates a) you dont know, or b) you cant be bothered!!
So I shall spill the beans!!
#58 Jacob Manser (Swiss)
#123 Ian Parkinson
#155 Mick Preston
#178 Alex Taylor on Dennis Trollopes bike.

I wont insult your intelligence (Phil!) with a guess who!, but I like this one.....I wonder what would of happened had Pat not had his bad accident at the TT in 1978? If he would of been the first USA World 500cc Champ?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

But you can 'ave' a go at this one WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Probably my fault He'll be back when he has something to post

Mike Baldwin, 1986. Silverstone? Where else?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by picblanc
[B]I wont insult your intelligence (Phil!)
I cannot insult your intelligence ( Mr Fu )

Correct Michael....I am nothing if not predictable me!!

yes with Mr Fu its either Silverstone , Snetterton and is it Waterbeach , Mallory and the foray into Welsh Wales to Aberdare

[QUOTE]Originally posted by fil2.8
[QUOTE]Originally posted by picblanc
[B]I wont insult your intelligence (Phil!)
I cannot insult your intelligence ( Mr Fu ) [/QUOTE]

Boom Boom!!

You left off Brands Hatch...but that about sums up my travels in the 70's & 80's!!

But much farther traveled since then!! Donny, Lydden and Du Val de Vienne

[QUOTE]Originally posted by picblanc
[B]

You left off Brands Hatch... Yes sorry about that

Du Val de Vienne ------???? is that the new name for the M25 ??

Right chappies , thinking caps on , any advance on 1 out of this lot WWW

Err...Derek Chatterton?

1 down 4 to go Mr Fu :yawn:

WWW? sorry to jump in on Phils....but I cant wait any longer!! as someone has a better than 50% chance of getting it!!

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

In answer to your question, I´m not sure he would have been their first champion, but he certainly would have limited Roberts domination from ´78 to ´80. I read somewhere that Tom Herron rated Pat as the best American rider at the time, and from what I saw of him, I would agree with that. No disrespect to Barry, but Barry was forced to play second fiddle to Pat at Suzuki before Pat´s accident. I´ve always admired him for taking on the IOM challenge, even if, in hindsight, it proved to be a mistake. His was a great career stopped in it´s tracks by a very unfortunate accident. Wasn´t the first, and won´t be the last. That´s just motorcycle racing.

No No!! come on Phil you tell us the others!!!

You mean you don't know ??

i remember barrys rather unkind coment on learning of pat's signing.
*if you pay peanuts,you get monkeys*

#76 looks like Mike Baldwin again.

#242 one of the Slachters?

Bonsoir a tous...Christoph Bürki..1984 British GP

Morning to you chappie -- you could be correct ,the progs are not to hand at the mo. ( in the attic ) from memory the Daytona orginisers numbered all non Yanks in the 300's

A couple of recent ( well, a year old....) photos of Pat here :
http://www.motorcyclemuseum.org/news/2007/HOFinduction.asp

Good to see him in a crowd , taking part in a public event. He seems to be doing as well as can be expected , considering the seriousness of his injuries.

As to what may have happened in '78 , I think that he might well have pipped Kenny Roberts for the title that year . Not so much because of his two years of experience of the Continental Circus ( I think Roberts had enough talent to compensate for that ... ) but the Suzuki GB team was probably a stronger and "richer" outfit that KR's team which was basically Kel Carruthers and himself with three bikes ( a 250 , a 500 and a 750....)

But who am I to speak...maybe when Stu wakes up down under, he'll give us some more valid insight...if I'm not mistaken, he and Pat started their Grand Prix carreer on the very same day of March 1976 , on a cold and gloomy Bugatti circuit at Le Mans ( and I was there , inside the virage du musée, the loooong left hander after the first hairpin )

Reinhold Roth, 1984?

EDIT: Ah, I retreat! I see Antony has him already, and I didn't really think it looked like Reinhold anyway! :\

Barry had an old personal resentment towards Pat , which dated from before Pat joined the Suzuki GB team - and that did nothing to improve their personal relationship - specially when Pat started to be as quick as Barry ....

Oh, you want to know the story ? Barry told it bluntly in an interview I read in Moto Journal ages ago ...something like " I never hid it from anybody that I could not stand Pat Hennen, because he stole Gary Nixon's place in the Suzuki US team in 1975 by accepting to ride for them for no money. Gary is my friend , and anybody who shoots him in the back is shooting me in the back " ....when you know the level of mutual respect and friendship between Sheene and Nixon, sounds plausible....or maybe a bad excuse made up in retrospect ? We'll never know.....