Its my age!!

Yes Mick, it is Phil Bosco at Silverstone, in 1977, while racing in the Ken Redfern Trophy at Croft 6 weeks later, he crashed and sadly suffered fatal injuries. Only a week or so before his death, he had won The Cadwell Conqueror, Golden Helmet Trophy, 4 previous winners had died after they had won that trophy, three in racing accidents, Geoff Barry , Pete McKinley, Billie Nelson, and Ken Redfern who was killed in a road accident in 1973.
Cadwell Park owner at the time, Chas Wilkinson, requested that the trophy be buried with Phil Bosco, the Trophy appearing to be some what of a "jinxed" trophy. RIP to them all.

I'm pleased you told that story Graham , sad though it is , because it had somehow got filed in my memory as being buried with Geoff Barry . I used to really like that meeting along with the Bill Ivy Silver helmet which was run on the woodlands circuit and The yellowbelly handicap was also one of my faves at cadwell

Hi Guys,

Yes....I recently restored/rebuilt this bike. I always wanted a "reverse cylinder" TZ and now I have one.
If you're really bored and have some time to waste and can follow the year+ long rebuild here:

http://www.getphpbb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.ph...mforum=2stroker

Please just don't stop there. Look around the "Projects Section" and you'll see some amazing rebuilds (all Two-Strokes) going on right now. Thanks for your kind words about my U. It tuely is a labor of love.

Don

Years a go I bought a few original B&W photos, I had forgotten all about them till looking for something else, when I came across them in a box! I hope you enjoy seeing them. I think they just about fall within this forums 1969-1990 time period? If not I am sure one of you will let me know!?
So who is this, I dont know where or when?

Photo rights to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Hmmmm.....(sound of chin -stroking) This Rings a bell .....I'll go for Hugh Jarse with the eary 1969 portotype steam powered Shirtfinkle at a secret test at Romford dog track

Hi Mr. Fu

Its a 50 cc Tomos from former Yogoslavia, properly from 1970-71. no idea who the rider is, but I know that you can buy replicas of thoose bikes now, I will try to find a link

Cheers Leif

Er no Andy, not Mr Jarse, this is a very well known rider.

Hi Leif yep Tomos 50cc is what it says on the back of photograph, you will know of the rider, he was well known.
I think its from 1969 though as all the others I have are from then.

Mind you, having just said that I have found one from 1972!!

Almost there Andy , it is the Schirtfinkle on the way back to the paddock with #3 goffer the instantly forgettable Alan Key Incidently , the sideburns were part of the 'shades --presenting a different profile to avoid detection from various jealous husbands

Aha ...I got the year right

Gilberto Parlotti rode a Tomos for a couple of years. Could it be him?

Andy

Andy I am so glad your here mate, to restore a little bit of sanity!! it is Gilberto Parlotti, and a 50cc Tomos.

WWW? A well known name!

Picture rights to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

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Andy I am so glad your here mate, to restore a little bit of sanity!!

And what would you know about sanity Oh be-wigged one

Ah Mr Fu Is it Franta Stastny the works Jawa CZ rider perchance ???

Blimey!! it is!!!

WWW?

Photo rights to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.

Yes a frequent visitor to these shores and the TT . A star in the '50's ,'60,s and '70,s . Often third behind the Honda/ MV 1st place battle
Also rode the Jawa 350/4 2-smoke

Course I am forgetting your a lot older than me!!

Am I I would'nt have said so

I'm going for Billie Nelson by the caravan!

Yes you would be right,

just like alot of the riders I knew then

Glad I didn't say that That sort of thing never went on did it ???

Thats why they are called ' riders '

I could think of a few autobiographies that I would love to be written

Apparently its at Sachsenring.

Or been part of

Almost ready for the coming season Team Schirtfinkle show off their 2009 transporters which they are rightly very proud of

Bit before my time but was'nt Billie killed in a fire of some sorts?

http://www.motorsportmemorial.org/focus.php?db=ms&n=1444

Stu I think you mean Dave Simmonds who died in a caravan fire at a French circuit, I think it was Jack Ahern's caravan. Was it Ringis? Billie Nelson died in '74 at Opatija circuit.

Think from (admittedly tortured) memory it may have been Jack Findlay's caravan, pretty sure Jack Ahearn had packed it in by then as he rode the early Castrol Six Hour race in 1970 as a comeback ride of sorts.

(Edit) Yep, just found the Classic Racer article, Dave and Billie Nelson went to fight a fire in Jack Findlay's caravan. Billie went to get help, Dave was still inside when there was an explosion. His wife Julie (Mick Boddice's sister) dragged him out and was burnt badly herself. No good. And yes, it was at Rungis.

Yes, it was indeed poor Dave Simmonds, but I seem to recall it was Jack Findlay`s caravan. Oddly enough, I think Billy was also involved in that tragic event somehow. I met Billie´s wife once (I think her name was Pat) and I seem to recall her mentioning something about the fire.

GD and ex-Rhodie I stand corrected, I was also relying on memory. IIRC poor Dave was trying to put out the fire when the thing exploded, pretty sure though it was Ringis, '72? Wasn't it some sort of marketplace which was turned into a track for the occasion?

I wonder if Billie was related to Eddie Nelson, who runs the Darley Moor club?

Edit: Ah, Rungis, I was close, thanks GD.

There is some film from that meeting, I think it might of been Philippe that posted it, it was a road circuit.

Yes it was at the Rungis road circuit IIRC near Paris when the gas clyinder exploded in Jacks caravan when Jack went to get help with poor Dave fighting the fire . October 1972

Do you know if it was just a one-off meeting Graham? I haven't heard of the circuit since then. Was that the meeting where Olivier Chevalier rode Saarinen's championship-winning 250?

Mick , I think from memory it was run 2-3 times , I recall Ago riding there 1 year

Thanks for the info Phil, I'll do a bit of internet research (I'm on night shift !!) :yawn:


More info on the meeting here...

http://www.bike70.com/rungis1.html

Thanks for that Mick i'll watch the vid's later I'd forgotten the other 'stars' who'd been :\

In the Multi-Cylinder Magic video, Mick Grant explains how he centre-punched Ago at Rungis (I think Mick was on the John Player Norton), and for just a brief moment as they both toppled off, Mick was "riding" the MV...
Why have you got a frowny face by Ago, Phil ?

Probably because I was writing from memory/or thinking ''start money special '

Hi Fellows,

Just got off the NATS forum. It has been a very, very busy day there. Another picture from the shop:



Yes....I have more (old TZs that is ).

Don

you are a Horrible, evil man....do not think about posting anymore photos of your bikes or shop ever....OK?

Hello friends , sorry for not helping with the Rungis issue but I was asleep, then walking in the hills ( damn hot it was ) while you were having your fun

I confirm the Rungis meeting only took place once, in 1972. Make sure you check out the "programme" page , all the pages are thumbnails that you can click on to a larger version . Check out the entry lists...
http://www.bike70.com/rungis1program.html

The biggest sequel of that meeting was that Paris motorcyclists took the habit of riding out to Rungis on the friday nights , after their traditional meeting at the Bastille square, and having "races" there during most of the night . The safety conditions were of course appaling , all sorts of bikes , from 50cc Mobylettes to the most recent japanese 750 superbikes , ridden by riders of very uneven talent, made for a highly dangerous cocktail, and there were dozens of casualties, including in the ranks of "spectators" who were lining the "circuit" on the edge of the pavements. Check out that page on the same Bike70 website, the pictures speak by themselves
http://www.bike70.com/rungis1rassem.html and also http://www.bike70.com/rungis1temoins.html
Riding there was eventually banned, but not before the governement ( doing something clever for once) had subsidised the building of the "Carole" circuit in the north suburb of Paris, sometimes in 1980 I think, whose exclusive goal at the origin was to provide free "track days" on the week-ends to all motorcyclists - the only request was to have a road-legal bike ( well, at least carrying a registration plate and a valid insurance for said bike . I did ride there a few times , making sure I would start dead last with my 250 4-stroke trail bike and cruise around dreaming I was a racer for 2 to 3 laps ( maximum ) before I would start being caught and lapped by the fastest guys - and then I did my best to stay out of the way !

Hi guys, I photographed a mates TZ 750 yesterday and thought you may be interested, please check out the link

http://msrphotographic.co.uk/html/photo_page_342.html

Now your just showing off!! Has Steve any desire to have a go again then Mick?

I love that HDR effect on some of your photos!!

Hi Graham the bike belongs to Mark Linton and is possibly ex Steve Parrish, he's offered me it to parade at Chimay this year!! Don't know whether to take Mark up on his offer?

www.msrphotographic.co.uk