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picblanc
Originally posted by seh1066
And another WWH smile.gif

In an earlier post I mentioned the Hamburg Stadtpark Revival 2008 - here's a link to a small set of photos taken on this occasion http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn278/s...arkrennen_2008/
including my favorite bike of the meeting



Ahhh!! Stan Woods TR750-3 lovely bike...here is Stans in 1974.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.


Super photos Stefan!! up.gif wave.gif
LamboNZ
Originally posted by picblanc


lol.gif lol.gif yes I suppose it would be...not got myself into gear yet, off to Manchester in an hour or so, and thinking about all the things I have to do before I go!! drunk.gif


Cal Rayborn, yes in practice I think? either on the TR500 or poss the new RG500 whatever it was called in 1974?

Still can remember seeing him for the first time at Brands in 1972 on the dirt track iron barelled engined Harley, only Ray Pickrell could live with him, and Rayborn had never seen any of the tracks before!! what a rider!!


Yeah the Suzuki T500, apparently his father-in-law who was mechanicing for him at the time, decided after practice that he wasn't going fast enough. The bike was derived from a road going engine, and part of the mods was to put a polyester filler in some of the ports, so his father-in-law took it upon himself to run the bike on alcohol, which had never been tested.
In the race, just starting the second lap, the filler had deteriated and come loose, causing too much air and leaning the mix off too much and seizing the engine. This resulted in Cal tragically having a high speed colision with the barriers at the first turn. (Dec 29th 1973 RIP)
seh1066
Originally posted by picblanc


Ahhh!! Stan Woods TR750-3 lovely bike...here is Stans in 1974.

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.


Super photos Stefan!! up.gif wave.gif


wave.gif Thanks, Graham !

I even like it more in the 1975 livery - and to my great pleasure you have already posted some pics of it
in these colours up.gif

The rider of the TR750 (XR11) in the pic is Karl Hübben.

Actually I do not know a lot about this bike - how many TR750's were built ? And were there only works bikes or also production racers ?
antony duprat
Originally posted by seh1066
And another WWH smile.gif



In an earlier post I mentioned the Hamburg Stadtpark Revival 2008 - here's a link to a small set of photos taken on this occasion http://s306.photobucket.com/albums/nn278/s...arkrennen_2008/
including my favorite bike of the meeting

A swedish sponsor..Mellender or Bergt Elgh ?
stuavant
Originally posted by LamboNZ


Were you experimenting with a 16" front wheel there Stu?, only the front mudguard looks a bit odd.


Had to think awhile mate but as I recall we were running 16 whenever we could as i knew it was better but it was a little harder to get on with than 18 in..we were setting new parameters then I guess without thinking about it. Every waking moment was, for me anyway, about getting a technical edge over my opposition. After all, at the sharp end, we all seemed to ride about the same.
seh1066
Originally posted by antony duprat
A swedish sponsor..Mellender or Bergt Elgh ?


clap.gif Yes, it's Micke Melander. And the year is 1983.
ex Rhodie racer

Sorry if this is a bit of a disaster, but I can´t seem to scan the pic properly.
It´s for Peter who asked for a pic of Jon Ekerold. Well this is the only one I could find. I hope you like it wave.gif
HEMEYLA
Originally posted by pmbboy

thanks for that link I had not seen that sight before, even got a picture of Jon on the Fath bike which I had a hand in building.
cheers Peter


That's very interesting, is it the Fath bike with frame build by Nico Bakker ?

Also a very nice Jon Ekerold webpage (in Dutch) at Gerard v.d. Pot's Jumping Jack website. And much much more. love.gif

Nico Bakker´s workshop with the Fath flat-four twostroke, photo by Jan Heese.

ex Rhodie racer
Originally posted by HEMEYLA


That's very interesting, is it the Fath bike with frame build by Nico Bakker ?

Also a very nice Jon Ekerold webpage (in Dutch) at Gerard v.d. Pot's Jumping Jack website. And much much more. love.gif

Thanks for that link Hemeyla. Great photo´s of a great champion.
Peter, did you build the frame, or was it in fact a Nico Bakker. Jon said in his book that the Fath motor was very quick. If so, what was the reason it failed to deliver the goods?
LamboNZ
What no posts?





.........Where is everybody?
Giacomo Agostini
Originally posted by stuavant
After all, at the sharp end, we all seemed to ride about the same.

Oh really? roflmao.gif roflmao.gif
ex Rhodie racer
Originally posted by Giacomo Agostini

Oh really? roflmao.gif roflmao.gif

I think what Stu is saying is that a technical advantage never hurt anyone who was trying to win races. And he´s right, otherwise no one would bother trying to develop their machine. wave.gif

I´m suprised no one has queried the pic I posted.wink.gif lol.gif
GD66
Originally posted by LamboNZ


Yeah the Suzuki T500, apparently his father-in-law who was mechanicing for him at the time, decided after practice that he wasn't going fast enough. The bike was derived from a road going engine, and part of the mods was to put a polyester filler in some of the ports, so his father-in-law took it upon himself to run the bike on alcohol, which had never been tested.
In the race, just starting the second lap, the filler had deteriated and come loose, causing too much air and leaning the mix off too much and seizing the engine. This resulted in Cal tragically having a high speed colision with the barriers at the first turn. (Dec 29th 1973 RIP)


Yes, I can confirm that this happened in the first race heat, at the end of lap 1. Cal had been set to race a Lola T190 in the Tasman Series for F5000 cars, and the Suzuki ride in the Marlboro Series, on a Colemans TR500 twin, came about as he'd been signed to race for Suzuki in the AMA series the following year, having been working his butt off on the Harleys for years against the rising tide of Japanese two-stroke opposition. It's my impression that he'd also made a conscious decision to specialise in roadracing rather than pursue the Grand National tour, as his results on the Harley against Ray Pickrell and the lads in the Transatlantic had confirmed his belief in his tarmac skills. Anyway, through a convoluted set of somewhat tenuous circumstances, he was a starter at Pukekohe on the Colemans TR500, and for sure the bike was converted to alcohol on the day. His father-in-law was chief mechanic, in company with Colemans rep Joe Lett, and Len Perry. At the end of lap 1, when he crossed the start-finish line and sat up to dip into Champion Curve, the bike seized, and the back stepped out wildly, straightened briefly, then stepped out again, spat him off the left side and chased him into the armco barriers, which he hit sitting down and sliding backwards, and then ricocheted back onto the track. The race was stopped immediately, but having seen all this directly in front of me and already fearing the worst for one of my heroes, my fears were ramped up by the repeated calls for anyone on the course who may be a doctor to please assist at the ambulance station.
Looking back now, I doubt whether poor Cal could have been saved even if a doctor had been on hand, but as seconds drew into minutes and time went agonisingly by, the pall of dread spread pervasively through the crowd, and somehow we all knew that this was a bad one. Without question, it raised the inadequacies of the medical facilities in those times, but it was a cruel blow that was felt worldwide in the roadrace community, and it all seemed so needless....
andyb1963
Originally posted by ex Rhodie racer

I think what Stu is saying is that a technical advantage never hurt anyone who was trying to win races. And he´s right, otherwise no one would bother trying to develop their machine. wave.gif

I´m suprised no one has queried the pic I posted.wink.gif lol.gif

I did wonder mate but I thought you'd probably just overdone the red wine drunk.gif roflmao.gif
Then I thought again and wodered if it was Jon Jr smoking.gif
picblanc
Originally posted by GD66


Yes, I can confirm that this happened in the first race heat, at the end of lap 1. Cal had been set to race a Lola T190 in the Tasman Series for F5000 cars, and the Suzuki ride in the Marlboro Series, on a Colemans TR500 twin, came about as he'd been signed to race for Suzuki in the AMA series the following year, having been working his butt off on the Harleys for years against the rising tide of Japanese two-stroke opposition. It's my impression that he'd also made a conscious decision to specialise in roadracing rather than pursue the Grand National tour, as his results on the Harley against Ray Pickrell and the lads in the Transatlantic had confirmed his belief in his tarmac skills. Anyway, through a convoluted set of somewhat tenuous circumstances, he was a starter at Pukekohe on the Colemans TR500, and for sure the bike was converted to alcohol on the day. His father-in-law was chief mechanic, in company with Colemans rep Joe Lett, and Len Perry. At the end of lap 1, when he crossed the start-finish line and sat up to dip into Champion Curve, the bike seized, and the back stepped out wildly, straightened briefly, then stepped out again, spat him off the left side and chased him into the armco barriers, which he hit sitting down and sliding backwards, and then ricocheted back onto the track. The race was stopped immediately, but having seen all this directly in front of me and already fearing the worst for one of my heroes, my fears were ramped up by the repeated calls for anyone on the course who may be a doctor to please assist at the ambulance station.
Looking back now, I doubt whether poor Cal could have been saved even if a doctor had been on hand, but as seconds drew into minutes and time went agonisingly by, the pall of dread spread pervasively through the crowd, and somehow we all knew that this was a bad one. Without question, it raised the inadequacies of the medical facilities in those times, but it was a cruel blow that was felt worldwide in the roadrace community, and it all seemed so needless....


Thanks for that GD sad though reading it was. frown.gif
ex Rhodie racer
Originally posted by picblanc


Thanks for that GD sad though reading it was. frown.gif

May I echo that. I always admired CR and, until now, wasn´t aware of the circumstances that led to his fatal crash. Imagine how his father-in-law must have felt? Absolutely tragic. frown.gif

On a brighter note, yes Andy, you are spot on. clap.gif I snapped him at a meeting I attended and got to chat with him for a few minutes. Delightful lad, and a fine rider as well. up.gif
picblanc
An easy WWW?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
fines
Michel Rougerie? Err... biggrin.gif Silverstone cat.gif?? 1977???
HEMEYLA
The late Michel Rougerie cry.gif

info

HEMEYLA
More Jon Ekerold and many others, see Stu flying at the IOM TT. link
picblanc
Originally posted by fines
Michel Rougerie? Err... biggrin.gif Silverstone cat.gif?? 1977???


clap.gif clap.gif Correct! Predictable aren't I!! tongue.gif wave.gif
mfd
Originally posted by HEMEYLA
More Jon Ekerold and many others, see Stu flying at the IOM TT. link

Some good photos there up.gif Who is on the RG #6 Hector Neill bike?
The one of Gary Padgett later is great too - MX style!
picblanc
Originally posted by mfd

Some good photos there up.gif Who is on the RG #6 Hector Neill bike?
The one of Gary Padgett later is great too - MX style!


Looks like Steve Cull?
Russell Burrows
Originally posted by Giacomo Agostini

Oh really? roflmao.gif roflmao.gif


G'day Ago, is that really you?
mfd
Originally posted by picblanc
Looks like Steve Cull?

Yes could well be him. Have you got an 89 photo of Brian Morrison?
picblanc
Originally posted by mfd

Yes could well be him. Have you got an 89 photo of Brian Morrison?


I took that year and the next one off blush.gif why Sir?
picblanc
There is one here.
http://www.iomtt.com/Photo-Gallery/Gallery...image=4775&ref=
subh
I’ve been sent a request that I can’t answer - so can you help by providing any details of the 250cc entry list for the 1983 ‘100 miles of Imola’ race? I didn’t know of a race by that name but someone will probably know all about it - or I hope so. Thanks.
mfd
Originally posted by picblanc
There is one here.

Yes I saw that one - that's why I asked...yours are bigger (photos, I mean) biggrin.gif
ex Rhodie racer
Originally posted by mfd

Yes I saw that one - that's why I asked...yours are bigger (photos, I mean) biggrin.gif


roflmao.gif
andyb1963
Originally posted by mfd

Yes I saw that one - that's why I asked...yours are bigger (photos, I mean) biggrin.gif

Oooerrr Matron roflmao.gif roflmao.gif
fines
Originally posted by subh
I’ve been sent a request that I can’t answer - so can you help by providing any details of the 250cc entry list for the 1983 ‘100 miles of Imola’ race? I didn’t know of a race by that name but someone will probably know all about it - or I hope so. Thanks.

Wasn't that the 250cc race supporting the 'Imola 200'?
picblanc
lol.gif
WWW? Easy peasey!!?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.
picblanc
Originally posted by subh
I’ve been sent a request that I can’t answer - so can you help by providing any details of the 250cc entry list for the 1983 ‘100 miles of Imola’ race? I didn’t know of a race by that name but someone will probably know all about it - or I hope so. Thanks.


Was the Imola 200 still running in 1983?
fines
Walter Villa, Aermacchi ;), 1976
fines
Originally posted by picblanc


Was the Imola 200 still running in 1983?

Yes, there was! April 10, won by KR! Sadly, it was the race in which "Kojak" Guido Paci died. frown.gif

And no international 250 race either... :\
Russell Burrows
Originally posted by picblanc
lol.gif
WWW? Easy peasey!!?

Photo Copyrighted to Graham Etheridge, racebikepics.


What's with he undersized front brake?
Adrian Godden
Originally posted by picblanc


Thanks for that GD sad though reading it was. frown.gif

...yes.....I remember it well....a more than sad loss....
......but odd as it may seem....I seized mid Champion in '79 and the Doc at the time was *issed and said I'd pulled a muscle - had in fact broken all four major bones in me leg ( I'll delete this if it's an issue or whatever)
....(Hello Lam')
AG
picblanc
Originally posted by fines
Walter Villa, Aermacchi ;), 1976


clap.gif clap.gif 1977. and errr!!..... Silverstone (again!!)
LamboNZ
Originally posted by Russell Burrows


What's with he undersized front brake?


Looks like a drum brake?

Nice to see a piece of duct tape on the screen of a works bike too!
mfd
Originally posted by LamboNZ
Looks like a drum brake?

Wasn't it a special shrouded disc inside that drum...goes to look for the Motocourse...
here we go, described as a Campagnolo conical hydraulic drum. That caught on then smile.gif
fil2.8
Originally posted by picblanc


clap.gif clap.gif 1977. and errr!!..... Silverstone (again!!)


Evening Mr Fu love.gif no not Silverstone rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif (for a change )wink.gif tongue.gif :yawn:
LamboNZ
Originally posted by Adrian Godden

...yes.....I remember it well....a more than sad loss....
......but odd as it may seem....I seized mid Champion in '79 and the Doc at the time was *issed and said I'd pulled a muscle - had in fact broken all four major bones in me leg ( I'll delete this if it's an issue or whatever)
....(Hello Lam')
AG


Hi Adrian, was reading the Pukekohe history book, and it has a few paragraphs from Alan Cathcart. He was describing a few memories he had had there, and one was when he was riding a rigid framed Norton in an historic race, and on the slowing down lap he hit the bumps on Champion different from the racing line, which threw him into the Armco on the inside of the track!, resulting in a badly broken Femur.
subh
Originally posted by fines

Yes, there was! April 10, won by KR! Sadly, it was the race in which "Kojak" Guido Paci died. frown.gif

And no international 250 race either... :\


It looks like the Imola 200 ran until 1987:
http://racingmemo.free.fr/M%20COURSES%20IN...OTO%20IMOLA.htm

You’re right, there is no support race listed for that year. The 100-mile race must have been part of some other event. I’ll have to ask for a date, which might help.
fil2.8
wave.gif Ahhhh all I think this is one pretty bike love.gif obviously not based on the (in)famous Schirtfinkle !!! eek.gif where are you chaps with your Schirtfinkle piccies wink.gif ?? Russ might enjoy this confused.gif





mfd
Originally posted by picblanc




Interesting to contrast the leathers of 30 years ago with todays gear. I remember in the late 80's when Kushitani & RS Taichi started to appear over in Europe the complexity & quality went up a notch. Even so todays suits are laden with armoured panels, which were never dreamed of back in the 70's.
Anyone riding today or then like to comment on the improvements in safety?
stuavant
Originally posted by picblanc


Thanks for that GD sad though reading it was. frown.gif

I was there that day. There was a lot of finger pointing regarding the bike and the alcohol issue and subsequent siezure. Cal just wanted to race and be competitive rather than sit around which seemed to be his character.Really it was just a "racing accident" circa 1970! I still have a mental picture of him lying on the track. sad.gif
LamboNZ
Originally posted by mfd

Wasn't it a special shrouded disc inside that drum...goes to look for the Motocourse...
here we go, described as a Campagnolo conical hydraulic drum. That caught on then smile.gif


Not sure Mike, this pic doesn't really conclude either way.

fil2.8
Originally posted by mfd

Interesting to contrast the leathers of 30 years ago with todays gear. I remember in the late 80's when Kushitani & RS Taichi started to appear over in Europe the complexity & quality went up a notch. Even so todays suits are laden with armoured panels, which were never dreamed of back in the 70's.
Anyone riding today or then like to comment on the improvements in safety?

wave.gif Hi Mike , don't know to much about the comfort of the protection back in the '80's but when I was involved with Tony ( Head) in '81 ish he used very basic protection ( Protec ?) for the back , and I think elbows , which he sold on a regular basis but the Sportac leathers Bill & Bob (Marks) used had no other protection down.gif and , indeed nothing was available IIRC for added protection mad.gif
mfd
Originally posted by LamboNZ
Not sure Mike, this pic doesn't really conclude either way.

Motocourse says they were front & rear on both the 250 & 350. The other side of the hub to this shot is really conical, but it was def hydraulic. See if I can find out more. There must have been a reason/advantage!
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