No my friend, letting MS serve his stop go on the last lap was the stupidest ever. This is probably top 10 but we are all a bit emotional at the moment. we need a bit of perspective.

So what exactly did Hamilton do wrong ? Do you think he should've not let Raikkonen past ans do you also think that Raikkonen should be penalised for blocking and causing an avoidable collision with Hamilton ??
I am genuinely interested to know what the reason was for why you said that.

I cannot see anyone agreeing with that decision unless their judgement is tainted by favouritism.

Well, we can all set a time to hit the servers and pull them down ;-)

this pretty much sums up the whole incident. it really is that simple

Oh well, I did enjoy the (rare) racing F1 put on today...

How blatantly biased is this penalty, hilarious.

I don't really agree with this decision even though I support Ferrari and Massa. But then Lewis was being pushed by the FIA all the way in 2007, escaping penalties those should have been issued against him, so maybe it all balences out at the end. :\

Lewis was off the track when Kimi went by. That is not "passing under yellow"!

Complete and total bullshit. I've watched this sport for 22 years and this by far is the worst call by the stewards I have ever seen. Yes he cut the chicane but he also let Kimi back into the lead. McLaren had better raise hell over this one.

Does anyone remember the incident between Kubica and Hamilton during the Japanese GP last year?

Fucking disgrace to the sport.

Ferrari should be ashamed of themselves. Especially in light of the Senna/Massa debacle - this is scraping the barrel

Mclaren should appeal immediately - I haven't seen such BS in years.

Well, Kimi was fighting for nothing after that, they would have given him the win anyway... too bad the idiots took their time to give the verdict, huh?

This is really disgusting... hope some drivers will comment on the decision now..

Yeah it was lodged by Ferrari.

I don't even understand why the 9 other teams are competing against Ferrari.

Oh please tell me how Hamilton would have been 0.1 meters behind KR in the halfway of the straight if he had driven through the chicane properly (on track).

If Hamilton can win WDC this year it will be all the more sweeter. I can see this going down in history with the Senna, Prost clashes at Suzuka in terms of controversy.

If I am absurdly generous, there are 1.5 facts in that post.

Obviously, Hamilton should have just let Kimi crash into him - taking both of them out. That's the "proper" way to "race" in F1...

So next time he maybe think when he did this manoeuvres.

I don't often believe that ferari is favoured, but this is corruption on a grand scale. What message are these buffoons running this corrupted and idiotic so called sport sending out there? What way does it satisfy you to cheat your way to championship? How can massa rightly feel that he has won that race? It is just bollocks. They can damn watch the rest of the races. Jeez what good news we have nascar. Jeez what can i say

That's the interesting thing. Hamilton would have gotten Kimi anyway, but how Hamilton pulled off this move raised some eyebrows. What catched my attention is that he precisely avoided the grass and cut the chicane where the off-track road was almost completely going through the chicane. Had he hit the grass, he might have spun off, as the grass was wet.

However, it had been more sensible IMO to give a grid penalty if any at all than to alter this race outcome. Hamilton would have won the race anyway. And I'm saying this as a Ferrari fan, and hoping that Massa will win the championship.

Well my sig still seems well and alive.

This was a clear-cut decision. I'm just sorry I posted that Lewis would be given a ten second penalty in the live race thread. I was thinking about a stop and go and left out the pitlane time.

The stewards had to do this because otherwise all chicanes with run-off areas would be useless. Imagine what would happen at Monza at the first chicane. Everybody would just go straight, then break a little and the floor it through curva grande. That would have been OK if Lewis would have won today. Deal with it. Lewis tried to cheat.

I was looking forward to watching Bruno Senna and Lewis Hamilton this weekend, and hoped they both would win their respective races. And I have seen both of them do enough to do so, only to be totally and utterly ROBBED.

I fully defended Massa against a penalty 2 weeks ago, and he was quite rightly not given one. (A driving one anyway) The fact that these guys have both been penalised, one of them for an almost identical incident, makes me fucking sick.

You would think the simple logic of looking at the precedent set for these incidents would be enough to make fair judgment, but apparently not.

FIA - you can go fuck yourself.

Well, now I'm certain that Massa will win the WDC and it will be so undeserved because Lewis gave him a kicking today. No wonder Alonso wants to drive for Ferrari, it's the only team that is going to be winning anything from now on.

It's pathetic and I am very upset and angry

Justice has been done.

No one is contesting the cutting of the chicane. This happens all the time and is allowed so long as you give the position back immediately.

See the bold above. This is the part where Lewis did not comply. Instead, he realised the error of not conceding at the chicane and tried to make an advantage out of the situation. The likes of which have never been seen before. That he thought he could get away with it is telling of his smug and arrogant attitude.

You just don't do that. If you lose a corner you don't throw your toys out of the pram. You behave like a man and slot in behind quickly and then start again. Anything else is not fair racing.

Why can't you Ham-fans see that? Pretty obvious to me.

That's irrelevant - as when Kimi was accelerating hard - Hamilton was actually backing off to let him past - and THEN had to start the attack again.

How you can think someone is taking an advantage when they are actually slowing down is beyond me.

Is this some kind of mysterious going slower advantage of which i was previously unaware???

While the first reaction is certainly to slam FIA and stewards -and there can be no contention that the penalty system needs an overhaul- I would like to see the text of stewards ruling.

They must have access to certain data which helped them make this decision.

On another note, I hate you guys

So what are your thoughts on this move by a Ferrari driver? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM

What can you expect from Surinder Thatthi who was unhappy with Seb Loeb's 'scruffy' face and made an official complaint.

This is pathetic.

Thats about it. Not like its the first time. Mass Dampers anyone?

Lewis/McLaren fanboys crying foul... PRICELESS!

I seriously think they should all boycott Monza. Obviousy the Ferrari-bitches won't, but if McLaren, Renault, Toyota et al run a race at (say) Suzuka instead perhaps a 4 car farce might show the FIA that they are truly biased.

That's the way it's been planned - uh, I mean the way it will probably work out...

I am neutral, not a fanboy and old enough to know that this is beyond pathetic. The FIA Stewards clearly have little grasp on reality and should be put out to grass. McLaren must appeal this anti-racing decision for the sake of Formula 1, even though that would mean we won't know the outcome for months... Some sport...

Why don't they just ban overtaking and give Ferrari the first two grid spots for every race?

The manufacturers (excluding Ferrari) should maybe ditch the FIA and start a fair F1 Championship.

Lewis has 3 options

Tell Ron to quit

Join Ferrari

Or learn to drive cleaner

Hamilton did slot in behind, his car was completely behind Raikkonen.

If you've missed it, there are other fans and even Ferrari fans saying this is absurd

well, we know what Max's orders to the stewards are now.
Been watching racing for years, this year has had the worst decisions I've seen. This one and the one to allow racing to continue at the F3 race at Silverstone with a car right in the middle of the track just past the apex at a chicane.
where do they get their stewards these days?

At the end of the day, it's only racing, but it would be nice if it could be seen to be fair and consistent.

The rot starts at the top.

I know you excluded the likes of me - the tifosi - but fwiw I strongly disagree with this penalty, it does no - significant - favors/benefits for the teams WDC challenge yet harms the its image and gives the opposition a club[FiAT] to beat them with through the next decade so it is in fact a poisoned chalice...IMHO

That said I don't think there is a collusion or malaise behind this just incompetence by the relevant authorities, I hope McLaren to win an eventual appeal of this bad decision.

The stewards must have seen something in telemetry or other data. I would like to know what the stewards know.

Christ almighty, will you guys stop moaning.

I had a large bet on Vettel finishing on the podium. He looks like being promoted two places to third, behind Hamilton and my bookie won’t pay out the $2000 !!!!

Now that’s something to be seriously upset about.

lol i was expecting this exact decision by the stewards. Considering the past few years it was obvious they would use this excuse to make the WDC more interesting. He might have deserve it , he might have not, but the outcome would be this one regardless hehe.

Maybe we're fans of motor racing, buddy. And want the guy who wins the race to be the one who, you know, wins it.

If the teams could agree to do another "Indianapolis" at Monza and let Ferrari race against themselves...

KR went off later and got good drive off the tarmac around the outside, but given the conditions that was understandable, hardly a cheat either. As you say Hamilton was a lot quicker and the race was decided on mistakes not that chicane. Indeed KR was in the lead again afterwards so it has no result on the race result, ie no advantage as it turned out.

I'm surprised that and the terrible conditions were not more taken into account.

Regards

Andy

They won't. There's nothing in it for them.

I am not a fan of Hamilton. Although I am from the UK, I just dont click with him but this decision is crazy! He gave the place back after cutting the chicane. SO MANY TIMES the decisions seem to be designed to 'orchestrate' the result rather than show fairness. I doubt even if KR would agree with this decision!

Yes, he was backing off. But the whole time he was backing off he still had an unfair advantage (in the lead). He only lost that advantage when the braking zone for La Source started. Then he dived down the inside. He would not have been bumper to bumper were it not for using the chicane cut.

By using the chicane cut, he avoided the dirty air of Raikkonen and gained an advantage

You can't just string Raikonnen down the dirty side of the entire straight and battle with him and say that is conceding back the position??

Quit ridiculous and rightly punished.

No wonder Raikkonen swerved eratically. He probably thought: WTF is Lewis playing at?!!?

If you don't punish this behaviour then drivers will start to use chicanes every lap to avoid the dirty air scenario.

Holy crap, good video!!! How much did pay Ferrari paid the stewards today?

I am a fan of motorsport, and to be quite frank Hamilton has been penalised for bringing motorsport back to F1 and giving everyone the thing they want to see, Balls Out Racing. It's a joke. I give you Rossi & Stoner at the Corkscrew a few weeks back. Hard racing. It's what we want to watch.

Those saying Ham should settle for 2nd and collect the points. No - I don't pay to watch F1 precessions, I want to watch hard driving and people taking chances. Today was the first time in years F1 has had me off my seat. Sadly, it will also be the last time I'm off my seat. With idiotic decisions like this flying around, all races will be over by the first corner, everyone to scared to try just incase.

My 2cents

What a farce