Lewis has made too many "tricky" moves since he's driving in f1, this decision is not so outrageos as many can think.

Don't waste your breathe their email server bounces you out as spam I tried emailing them once before.

The most exciting F1 race in years ... and now ruined...... I'd like to know just exactly how big a wad Ferrari dashed the stewards for this one.... must have been in the millions of $$$$..s

and this once great forum keeps being flooded by unfair McLaren supporters.

Reality check: the world out there is different and can see things in a non-biased way.

It was a blatant case of bad and unfair driving.
It's simply stupid comparing this to the well-fought (but correct, to the limit) battle between Massa and Kubica.

Keep in mind the difference between two fair drivers and a too-immature driver lacking strategic intelligence.

dont like hamilton,but thats EXTREMELY harsh,he gave the place back,the only thing i can think of is they thought he had an advantage from it heading into turn 1 and being able to pass Kimi

im looking forward to monza ;)

The old farts are just after cheap controversy... they don't care one bit about racing.

What a disgrace!

justice done. if this were earlier in the race he would have got the drive thru then instead of after. and if it were another driver, no one would say anything about it.

if you have raced, its pretty obvious. if you sit on your couch and watch racing its may not be. the people that make these decisions have more info and knowledge than the people that cry on this board.

let the whining commence.

Well, had Hamilton not cut the chicane, he wouldn't have been able to get past Kimi in the hairpin.

Fact: Hamilton benefited from cutting the chicane.

Another fact: You get drive-through penalty for doing that.

And a 3rd fact: If that happens in the final laps of the race, you get a time penalty.

I couldn't care less who wins, objectivity is in the eye of the beholder. The FIA is Ferrari biased, this is the last straw. They make NASCAR look neutral. Last time I get up to watch a race, Max and his band of idiots can rot in hell.

+1

The old farts are just after cheap controversy... they don't care one bit about racing..

What a disgrace!

I think it's simple.. if he didn't cut the chicane he wouldn't of been right on Kimi's tail in the position to overtake. He would of been .5 back and would of needed to slipstream after Eau Rogue.

This is as bad as 2007 WCC case

Well I guess it's to be another Ferrari year then. I won't be watching another farce next weekend.

well even if you say he shouldnt of passed him at the hairpin, kimi did get past later in the lap thanks to the williams, but spun right after..

i just cant see the reason for it, massa didnt deserve the win today, he drove well for sure, but...

Great masterstroke by Bernie ;) now everyone will talk F1 and the season got more interesting.

Damn, a penalty?!

I support Felipe Massa and would like to see him winning the 2008 WDC - but this decision is a shame and a disgrace.

I suggest you watch the Mass-Kubica battle again, and then come back and tell me how many times they cut corners and used run-off areas.

Most stupid decision in F1 history

Fact: Ferrari do anything no penalty

McLaren: Penalty




How do FIA dare after Massa slapped wrist two weeks ago

Formula 1 never fails to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. The big wigs just can't leave the racing alone, they want to feel important and turn the sport into a court drama.

Ah fuck it. If this isn’t over turned I am turning my back on F1 finally for good. Its taken me 6 months to start watching it again after last season and I am not wasting my time watching the Max Mosley willy waving completion for another season. I am fucking sick of this

As a Ferrari supporter, I'm somewhat disappointed by this decision.

But perhaps this will lead to those in power taking a second look at all the tarmac run-off.

Sorry. Disgusted.

The chicane incident gave Hamilton no advantage.

Watch it. He was alongside on KR's left as they crossed the line.
KR pulled clear and LH passed on KR's right.
No "momentum" possible.
And given KR's car positioning no option but to cut the chicane apex.

The chicane approach move was clever, inviting KR onto the wet line, but KR didn't go straight through...


I did wonder rather whether there were (or should have been) yellows where the Williams pulled directly across the scrapping KR + LH.


I really think decisions like this "bring the sport into disrepute".
And after the GP2 drivethroughs but the Ferarri whitewash, there's a lot of disrepute.

+1

Now, hopefully Kimi is able to help Felipe for WDC.

And people want Jean Todt to be Max's successor.

The problem is I think that there is a general feeling that the FIA is not too fond of McLaren, is fond of Ferrari and likes close world championships ..something this decision has done nothing to undermine.

Regards

Andy

that is the most utterly biased, bent, corrupt decision i've ever seen, i'm fuckin disgusted.





COMPLETE BOLLOCKS!!!

FIA really is Ferrari International Assistance. Fucking disgrace to the sport.

Massa definitively didn't deserve to win this race.

Shocking decision, absolutely shocking. The worst and most baffling decision in sporting history. Any incidint involvling mclaren these days is an automatic fine, ban, punishment, whatever.

I expect you're correct, dictatorships work in that way I guess.

This is nor good. This is really BAD.
FIA
I am a Raikkonen supporter and indirectly a Ferrari one but can't find a justification for such a decision. They were fighting for God's sake and under heavy conditions.

I think the penalty was deserved: he clearly took advantage from cutting the chicane.

Let's look at the facts.

Hamilton tried to get past Raikkonen. He got ahead but missed out the chicane. He therefore let Raikkonen back past. Ron Dennis asked Charlie Whiting is that was in order and Whiting said yes.

Hamilton then overtook Raikkonen.

The stewards did not take any action during the race so there was no chance that any penalty could be sorted during the race. And Whiting did not say "let him past again" which Hamilton could have done.

Hamilton won the race.

Ferrari then protested.

The stewards then decided to add time to Hamilton to ensure he did not win.

Sorry, but this is more bullshit than the entire output of the genus Bos for the past thirty million years if they all had had continuous diarrhoea.

Now hopefully both Ferrari's detonate at the next GP.
Love those smokescreens they pull.

Assuming that when Rosberg/Nakajima went off the road that there were yellow flags out... and that Kimi overtook Lewis for the lead on that corner is Kimi going to be given a grid penalty next race?

ZE PUNISHMENT IZ IMPOZED

Yep that's the story cut short. If LH had not cut the chicane he would have been nowhere near him at the straight.

Like here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5UnPeyzcHM

You can't blame Ferrari. The stewards started investigation on their own (?), and in any case, all teams look to maximize their points.

FIA stewards and penalty system needs work. Fix it for GP2 as well. :\

FIA makes once again F1 a farce.

The penalty doesn't fit the crime, it was tough racing and probably over the limit but a 25second penalty is too much, a grid penalty for the next race would have been more reasoneable.

PS:and we yet have to see if Heidfeld is penalized

Personally I don't agree with this penalty, but I DO agree with the above statement.

And listening to Lewis complaining in the press conference that he was pushed off by Kimi, that there wasn't enough room.

I think the good Lewis should go home and look at EVERY SINGLE PASS he, himself has made down the inside into a corner. He runs people wide more often than Montoya used to do, and he did it A LOT!

Best race ending for years gets flushed down the toilet. Thanks FerrarIA.

Hamo should have waited two more corners, he would have overtaken Kimi's poor handling Ferrari easily before the first chicane. It was exciting to watch but against the rules, he gained an advantage, that's the bottom line.

Ferrari lodged the complaint what I read.

BS, watch it again.

Hamilton got a much better acceleration on the straight because he drove through the chicane.

Precisely so.

This forum should be renamed "Mclaren Fanboys"...