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That was 1981 ? now I feel old, I remember watching it live, and when you posted ¨watson´s crash" I knew instantly what happened.
Originally posted by D.M.N.
The weather has changed slightly from yesterday, with rain now moving in [b]later in the weekend.
Weather Underground: Friday (None), Saturday (90%), Sunday (70%).
Weather.com: Friday (60%), Saturday (60%), Sunday (60%).
MSN.com: Friday (75%), Saturday (85%), Sunday (95%). [/B]
The weather has changed slightly from yesterday, with rain now moving in [b]later in the weekend.
Weather Underground: Friday (None), Saturday (90%), Sunday (70%).
Weather.com: Friday (60%), Saturday (60%), Sunday (60%).
MSN.com: Friday (75%), Saturday (85%), Sunday (95%). [/B]
Wednesday Update:
Weather Underground: Friday (20%), Saturday (30%), Sunday (70%).
Weather.com: Friday (70%), Saturday (60%), Sunday (60%).
MSN.com: Friday (95%), Saturday (75%), Sunday (95%).
I hope Weather Underground is wrong for Saturday.
Originally posted by DiStefano
Don't expect Kovalianen to finish second he has never done better than third on merit and even then that was helped by Massa's retirement.
He has only achieved one podium and lucked into a victory.
His average finish position is 5.9, makes you wonder why his contract was extended...
Don't expect Kovalianen to finish second he has never done better than third on merit and even then that was helped by Massa's retirement.
He has only achieved one podium and lucked into a victory.
His average finish position is 5.9, makes you wonder why his contract was extended...
Alonso's is 9.3... So 5.9 is positively impressive in comparison. Considering the 9.3 is the score set by a former WDC.
I reckon the Ferraris will have the legs in Monza, as others have said. Also I just have a feeling Vettel may pull something out of the bag too.
It wouldnt surprise me if Lewis just goes too hard to prove a point and bins it, similarly with Heikki trying to pull himself up. Perhaps Kimi will also put a little too much pressure on, trying to put himself back into/further into contention.
Originally posted by chesterfield
Alonso's is 9.3... So 5.9 is positively impressive in comparison. Considering the 9.3 is the score set by a former WDC.
I reckon the Ferraris will have the legs in Monza, as others have said. Also I just have a feeling Vettel may pull something out of the bag too.
It wouldnt surprise me if Lewis just goes too hard to prove a point and bins it, similarly with Heikki trying to pull himself up. Perhaps Kimi will also put a little too much pressure on, trying to put himself back into/further into contention.
Alonso's is 9.3... So 5.9 is positively impressive in comparison. Considering the 9.3 is the score set by a former WDC.
I reckon the Ferraris will have the legs in Monza, as others have said. Also I just have a feeling Vettel may pull something out of the bag too.
It wouldnt surprise me if Lewis just goes too hard to prove a point and bins it, similarly with Heikki trying to pull himself up. Perhaps Kimi will also put a little too much pressure on, trying to put himself back into/further into contention.
Yep that's a fair comparison
I think you forgot the fact that the McLaren* is 1 - 1.2 seconds faster than the Renault.
*At least Lewis' McLaren...
LOL - perhaps if his actions off the track and his professional conduct had been up to the same standards as his driving he wouldnt now be in a slower car?
I think he was quoted as saying in 2007 that the car "Mclaren" was 1-2 seconds quicker because he was driving it. Would be interesting to know what his opinion is now on why its 1-2 seconds quicker..
Just pointing out that you suggest it was wrong to even extend Kovalinens contract because of a 5.9, yet think a driver with a 9.3 should be in a Ferrari seat. Biassed much?
I still reckon Vettel could be interesting in Monza, and if there arent any grid penalties, the battle between Mclaren and Ferrari should be incredible on Sunday.
I think he was quoted as saying in 2007 that the car "Mclaren" was 1-2 seconds quicker because he was driving it. Would be interesting to know what his opinion is now on why its 1-2 seconds quicker..
Just pointing out that you suggest it was wrong to even extend Kovalinens contract because of a 5.9, yet think a driver with a 9.3 should be in a Ferrari seat. Biassed much?
I still reckon Vettel could be interesting in Monza, and if there arent any grid penalties, the battle between Mclaren and Ferrari should be incredible on Sunday.
Originally posted by Dark Monkey
Meh, Lewis will be punished with a 20 grid positions penalty for putting ketchup on spagetti and bringing distaste into the sport.
Meh, Lewis will be punished with a 20 grid positions penalty for putting ketchup on spagetti and bringing distaste into the sport.
If you go to Italy and put ketchup on your pasta, pray that 20 grid slots is the worst thing that happens to you.
Whilst in a reasturant near the Nurburgring, I ordered pineaple on my Pizza in front of a former Itallian friend just to see his reaction.
That wasnt the incident that led to him becoming a "former" friend, but Im fairly certain it didnt help!
The Italians can be a little passionate about that sort of thing it seems.
That wasnt the incident that led to him becoming a "former" friend, but Im fairly certain it didnt help!
The Italians can be a little passionate about that sort of thing it seems.
2004 race started wet and was wet for 20 laps or so IIRC.
Originally posted by Youichi
That was 1981 ? now I feel old, I remember watching it live, and when you posted ¨watson´s crash" I knew instantly what happened.
I wasn't born for another 6 yeats That was 1981 ? now I feel old, I remember watching it live, and when you posted ¨watson´s crash" I knew instantly what happened.
Originally posted by Dark Monkey
Alonso will be able to ponder a new sense for life in the time it takes his Renault engine to reach the end of Monza's straights.
Piquet will continue testing Relativity by observing events happening at different speed relative to his teammate.
Alonso will be able to ponder a new sense for life in the time it takes his Renault engine to reach the end of Monza's straights.
Piquet will continue testing Relativity by observing events happening at different speed relative to his teammate.
Funny cause its truthy...
Trulli will secretly paint red the white parts of his Toyota overnight, so he can get some attention at Monza.
Is that you Mr Bolshevik..if so welcome back!
Hours after the race, someone among the public will realize that Button was actually racing, and will feel amazed.
Priceless
Originally posted by howardt
Italian Grand Prix? I expect a Ferrari win. Regardless of who crosses the line first.
Italian Grand Prix? I expect a Ferrari win. Regardless of who crosses the line first.
You didn't watch last year's race then.
Originally posted by Dark Monkey
Meh, Lewis will be punished with a 20 grid positions penalty for putting ketchup on spagetti and bringing distaste into the sport.
Meh, Lewis will be punished with a 20 grid positions penalty for putting ketchup on spagetti and bringing distaste into the sport.
And Kubica will be seen discussing rhinoplasty with his dear friend, Ron Dennis, who is eager to show off his new hair-plugs, complete with beryllium reinforcements.
One thing is for sure, if it is wet all weekend long i bet there is defcon 1 at ferrari HQ.
Originally posted by Dark Monkey
Meh, Lewis will be punished with a 20 grid positions penalty for putting ketchup on spagetti and bringing distaste into the sport.
Ferrari will set up the cars to run at ludicrous speed, but Kimi will manage to get his turned into a vacuum cleaner. He will score still fastest lap with it and finish in the points, tho.
Alonso will be able to ponder a new sense for life in the time it takes his Renault engine to reach the end of Monza's straights.
Piquet will continue testing Relativity by observing events happening at different speed relative to his teammate.
Barrichelo and Massa will cause a war between the brazillian gods of rain and sun. Hopefully someone will stop Webber's prays before they go wrong and it ends snowing.
Trulli will secretly paint red the white parts of his Toyota overnight, so he can get some attention at Monza.
Fisichella will let Ferrari lap him 20 times for the same reason. Then spin a fews times and go off track. Maybe attach some colorful helium balloons to his Force India. He will be caught once by the cameras.
Heidfeld secret twin will be discovered between the bushes with a BMW clone ready to jump in the track for 3rd at the last lap.
Hours after the race, someone among the public will realize that Button was actually racing, and will feel amazed.
Meh, Lewis will be punished with a 20 grid positions penalty for putting ketchup on spagetti and bringing distaste into the sport.
Ferrari will set up the cars to run at ludicrous speed, but Kimi will manage to get his turned into a vacuum cleaner. He will score still fastest lap with it and finish in the points, tho.
Alonso will be able to ponder a new sense for life in the time it takes his Renault engine to reach the end of Monza's straights.
Piquet will continue testing Relativity by observing events happening at different speed relative to his teammate.
Barrichelo and Massa will cause a war between the brazillian gods of rain and sun. Hopefully someone will stop Webber's prays before they go wrong and it ends snowing.
Trulli will secretly paint red the white parts of his Toyota overnight, so he can get some attention at Monza.
Fisichella will let Ferrari lap him 20 times for the same reason. Then spin a fews times and go off track. Maybe attach some colorful helium balloons to his Force India. He will be caught once by the cameras.
Heidfeld secret twin will be discovered between the bushes with a BMW clone ready to jump in the track for 3rd at the last lap.
Hours after the race, someone among the public will realize that Button was actually racing, and will feel amazed.
This post wins.
Originally posted by kids like ash
2004 race started wet and was wet for 20 laps or so IIRC.
2004 race started wet and was wet for 20 laps or so IIRC.
It was less, Barrichello pitted for dry tyres on lap 5 or 6 after Alonso srated to close the grap tremendously.
Originally posted by Atreiu
It was less, Barrichello pitted for dry tyres on lap 5 or 6 after Alonso srated to close the grap tremendously.
It was less, Barrichello pitted for dry tyres on lap 5 or 6 after Alonso srated to close the grap tremendously.
Actually Alonso passed Barrichello and took the lead on the track.
I was amazed when Barrichello said in a F1 Racing interview, a few months later, that he pitted when Alonso was catching him because it's just factually untrue.
I think the McLarens will be damn strong at Monza.
Originally posted by Craven Morehead
I think the McLarens will be damn strong at Monza.
I think the McLarens will be damn strong at Monza.
But MM and his Stewards will be even stronger - not just at Monza but everywhere.
I found a webcam of the Monza city center. You can click on the picture and a bigger will show up. It refreshes every 30 seconds. Some sky is cleary visable. It looks like it's sunny right now. 
http://www.ilmeteo.it/portale/webcam?citta=Monza
http://www.ilmeteo.it/portale/webcam?citta=Monza
Well, it will be really cold and rainy on sunday, sounds good if you are a mac fan ...
Originally posted by Ferrim
Actually Alonso passed Barrichello and took the lead on the track.
I was amazed when Barrichello said in a F1 Racing interview, a few months later, that he pitted when Alonso was catching him because it's just factually untrue.
Actually Alonso passed Barrichello and took the lead on the track.
I was amazed when Barrichello said in a F1 Racing interview, a few months later, that he pitted when Alonso was catching him because it's just factually untrue.
Maybe it just slipped his mind. Alonso indeed passed him on the fith lap.
Originally posted by chesterfield
Whilst in a reasturant near the Nurburgring, I ordered pineaple on my Pizza in front of a former Itallian friend just to see his reaction.
That wasnt the incident that led to him becoming a "former" friend, but Im fairly certain it didnt help!
The Italians can be a little passionate about that sort of thing it seems.
Whilst in a reasturant near the Nurburgring, I ordered pineaple on my Pizza in front of a former Itallian friend just to see his reaction.
That wasnt the incident that led to him becoming a "former" friend, but Im fairly certain it didnt help!
The Italians can be a little passionate about that sort of thing it seems.
Quite right too. Pineapple on a pizza is a crime against nature and God.
The weather site predictions are useless now, with attention directing towards the rainmap.
For practice, the rainmap shows a distinct chance of rain, but for the second session in the afternoon with possibly 10mm of rain.
For qualifying, the rainmap shows a very high chance of rain, with 10 to 15mm again a possibility. For the race, again 10mm's of rain is possible.
For practice, the rainmap shows a distinct chance of rain, but for the second session in the afternoon with possibly 10mm of rain.
For qualifying, the rainmap shows a very high chance of rain, with 10 to 15mm again a possibility. For the race, again 10mm's of rain is possible.
This is a good website for Italian weather:
http://www.meteoam.it/
Its hot here in Sardegna. Not convinced Monza will be so lucky.
http://www.meteoam.it/
Its hot here in Sardegna. Not convinced Monza will be so lucky.
Sorry, yes another thread.........but I've been wondering this since last weekend, and wonder what some of you think about the psycology for the next race.....
Hammy eventualy "won" at Spa...but only after losing it on the first lap..and only because rain saved his butt....but then the chicane occured, we all know what happened to his "win"......so I assume some "anger" might be there?......Some may call it determination....but...well.....I'd be pissed.....and I'm not sure thats a good thing in an F1 car...lol.
Kimi, fantastic drive at Spa, if a little "firm" with the other drivers, including his teammate.....but a world class drive, that really made me wonder just how good he really is..with all that pressure, and his expressed will to win at all costs....he did just that, nearly.....but then, the Hammy thing happened.....and however it was eventualy ruled upon....he got overtaken..period...and for the lead....which must have been a psycological blow?.....he then hit Hammy up the backside into La Source..then eventualy hit the wall (Did he crack?).......can he take away the best part of his day, and ignore the bad? I don't think it works that way......I am unsure how I would feel if I was Kimi......
Massa? Does he really feel he earned it? Can he treat Spa as a normal win? With all the mental "boost" that such a win gives a driver? Again, not so sure....he might be feeling a little sheepish, un-deserving...forget Hamilton, Kimi blew Massa off the road at Spa......I can imagine that if something is handed to you on a silver plate, you don't "enjoy" it as much, as if you fought and won it the hard way.......Massa was just "not in the action" last weekend.....does HE feel that he will only win with the help of others?......His comments over recent weeks suggest that might be his internal thinking.......which to me, is not world champion material......
Alonso. You know? I've not seen him so happy all year as he was after Spa, it was great to see that smile on his face as he recalled the race, and knowing that he is really the key player out of all the drivers, and knowing all the teams are waiting on him before they make any moves, must give him a huge confidence boost...again, was great to see him looking happy again....
Kubica? Hiedfield? The others?.....I feel Spa was a big race, but got overshadowed by one incident........so maybe we could discuss their "thinking" here also ....
But I'm really most interested in the Championship Contenders, especially if current or ex racers could comment.....what do you think the head games are doing right now...such a mixed bag of Spa.....what would you take away from it if you were in their positions?.....
Cheers
And again, soz for another thread on this...
lol.....
Hammy eventualy "won" at Spa...but only after losing it on the first lap..and only because rain saved his butt....but then the chicane occured, we all know what happened to his "win"......so I assume some "anger" might be there?......Some may call it determination....but...well.....I'd be pissed.....and I'm not sure thats a good thing in an F1 car...lol.
Kimi, fantastic drive at Spa, if a little "firm" with the other drivers, including his teammate.....but a world class drive, that really made me wonder just how good he really is..with all that pressure, and his expressed will to win at all costs....he did just that, nearly.....but then, the Hammy thing happened.....and however it was eventualy ruled upon....he got overtaken..period...and for the lead....which must have been a psycological blow?.....he then hit Hammy up the backside into La Source..then eventualy hit the wall (Did he crack?).......can he take away the best part of his day, and ignore the bad? I don't think it works that way......I am unsure how I would feel if I was Kimi......
Massa? Does he really feel he earned it? Can he treat Spa as a normal win? With all the mental "boost" that such a win gives a driver? Again, not so sure....he might be feeling a little sheepish, un-deserving...forget Hamilton, Kimi blew Massa off the road at Spa......I can imagine that if something is handed to you on a silver plate, you don't "enjoy" it as much, as if you fought and won it the hard way.......Massa was just "not in the action" last weekend.....does HE feel that he will only win with the help of others?......His comments over recent weeks suggest that might be his internal thinking.......which to me, is not world champion material......
Alonso. You know? I've not seen him so happy all year as he was after Spa, it was great to see that smile on his face as he recalled the race, and knowing that he is really the key player out of all the drivers, and knowing all the teams are waiting on him before they make any moves, must give him a huge confidence boost...again, was great to see him looking happy again....
Kubica? Hiedfield? The others?.....I feel Spa was a big race, but got overshadowed by one incident........so maybe we could discuss their "thinking" here also ....
But I'm really most interested in the Championship Contenders, especially if current or ex racers could comment.....what do you think the head games are doing right now...such a mixed bag of Spa.....what would you take away from it if you were in their positions?.....
Cheers
And again, soz for another thread on this...
lol.....
I guess it's not a new thread.
Lewis has a point to make.
Kimi has even more reasons to not care and go for win or bust.
Massa only sounds like he needs help because people keep bringing it up all the time.
The rest of the field either have their minds on new contracts or decent results for the rest of the season.
Lewis has a point to make.
Kimi has even more reasons to not care and go for win or bust.
Massa only sounds like he needs help because people keep bringing it up all the time.
The rest of the field either have their minds on new contracts or decent results for the rest of the season.
Does anyone know where I can get a webcam of the practices?
Originally posted by MarkWill
Does anyone know where I can get a webcam of the practices?
Does anyone know where I can get a webcam of the practices?
http://www.itv-f1.com/VideoLive.aspx
Originally posted by ensign14
Pineapple on a pizza is a crime against nature and God.
Pineapple on a pizza is a crime against nature and God.
The point is pineapple goes well with different kinds of blue cheese, sweetness and acidity balances the salty and nutty flavour of blue mould. Ok, it's vulgar, and kinda american but it works.
Now the situation doesn't change if you put these two ingredients that go together well on a pizza, which is quite neutral base for different kind of toppings. Most important thing is not to put too many different stuff on it.
Now, what is this to do with F1? Well... pizza is like a F1 car. Toppings are like winglets. Too many of them look ugly on a car and makes pizza unorthodox but may make it go faster.
Its raining like England in Monza at the minute. Practice session red flagged but not before Sutil proving he is one of the best wet weather drivers out there yet again in FP1
Pinapple works great on pizza
Pinapple works great on pizza
Not to take anything away from Sutil, but he set his best time when the track was still near-dry
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