Its bad to have all the power concentrated in one person, we end up with corruption and dictatorship as we have had with the last two presidents.

It was to kurb corner speeds, wich worked. The engine freez was to cut costs in that department, wich also worked. The engine format ban of V12 was done for the same reasons. Honda nad Ferrari where planning to re-introduce them and poured lots of money in. The slicks return next year because the aero load has been drastically cut, something that was impossible 10 years ago because the concorde agreement would not allow such changes without unanymous descision of the teams. ALl teams where for, mclaren was against. Hence mosleys biter realtionship with dennis.

Anything else? I can't see the "necessity" of any of that.

Mosley never grabbed power like a dictator. He was voted in. A few months ago another voting round he was kept in. A few years ago he threatened to step down and all teams asked him to stay. Your allegations make no sense at all.

Did it?

Pole time Spa 1997, Villeneuve on slicks: 1.49,45
Pole time Spa 1998, Hakkinen on grooved: 1.48,682

Don't make me laugh about the cost cutting effect of changing the engine formula.

Devoted to Maxxx ariving to Monza - "Look who`s cuomming" ©

"What ?! Max is here ?"


"Waiting...."


"YEAH !!! It's really him !!!"

First Ferrari guy: "...five hookers? For five hours? That old fart over there?!?"
Second Ferrari guy: "Shhh... don't ever look or point at him. He's the one to hand out the penalties here."

Fantastic argumentation!! But that really was behind it and he had a point. The big teams where planning to develop big engines just for the fast tracks where no small teams (and those days you still had alot of them) could never compete.

And its nice to see the spa times but you forget that the speed on the straights did increase because of the smaller wings causing less drag. Without the intervention the times would drop perhaps even more.

No, you cannot convince me mosley is bad for the sport. Sofar ive seen little substantial argumentation other than some bloating about hes a dictator and hes slept with 5 hookers. Good for him. If you need a clown as president why dont make jacky stewart, michael jackson or anthony hamilton president of F1.

Wrong again. He doesnt hand out penalties. The stewards do.

You misunderstood. Most here are eager to get rid off the current clown.

No friends Max....

Does no one want to be seen with this organiser of Gang Bangs, and user of whores dressed as "Nazis"???.....

He cuts a lonely looking figure.........the man is damaged beyond repair.....

He should get back into racist politics........he'd fit in there more than the cosmopolitan world of F1.....

unbelievable, even thou he has yet again hinted at going back on his very own word that he was going to retire, people are still supporting him and still regard him as honorable and trustworthy. Max is wasted in F1 he should have being PM.

Thats the whole point isnt it. He isnt a clown. Hed done a whole range of good things. Defending against clownesque allegations is really not hard to do. In that its the accusers who make it a circus.

How comes that all those mentioned lots of small teams disappeared despite of those oh-so-wise cost cutting measures?

More details about straight topspeeds and corner speeds 1998 compared with 1997, please.

Because I don't buy your story of the 98 laptimes being faster overall despite slower corner speeds.

The engine freeze has an end, and when it does end, actually 2 years before, all the engine development facilities have to be restarted. Any team who's got rid of staff, equipment or facilities is going to have to spend all the money they've saved starting them up again. Meantime any team who took it at face value has lost out.

The tiniest change in the engine specs will now cost a fortune.

Does Max ever smile? He just looks like a grumpy, bitter old man...

Well the 97 qual time of monaco and hungaroring, both very much corner track, where 1.18.2 and 1.14.6. In 98 those times where 1.19.6 for monaco and 1.16.2 for hungaroring. Thats a dramatic slower time. And if i have to explain to you that a smaller front and rearwing give less drag wich translates into higher topspeed, then i dont know where to start. But since your smart enough i think you could reach the same conclusion.

The smaller teams, well jacky stewart sold his team after only 2 years to ford. When ford decided to quit stewart said ford shouldnt go because its such a big name and cant be gone from F1. The cheeky git, forgetting his own sold name 2 years earlier.

Jordan decided to invest his money into private airplanes, 92 ft yachts, a london chelsea 9 million pound condomenium and his irish ranch of course and decided to hire the spice girls instead of investing money into a gearbox, wich subsequently blew race in and race out. Sold to midlands. Stoddart raped minardi and tried to black mail dennis and ecclestone for money. Sauber sold to BMW not long ago. Tyrrell died (lord have mercy on his soul) and sold to BAR. Sauber/jordan and former bar now honda are still on the grid. Aguri went but that was not a real team. We have torro rosso and prodrive withdrew themselves.

As for the engine freeze. Its likely the format freeze has saved teams up to 30-50 milllion a year. The total freeze has saved big teams up to 100 million or more a year. By the time the engine freeze stops it must be more than half a billion dollars saved per team. There is no way a restart of that department will cost more than a few million dollars.

Mosley re. McLaren's Spa appeal:

"My immediate reaction was this is going to waste a great deal of everybody's time. Which is true, it's what always happens. A tiny incident and it takes up hours of your time."

Time better spent doing what, Max?

If his time is too precious to help resolve such issues, he shouldn't be in the job.

Good job of misquoting, it's what he said about the Hamilton incident in general not the appeals process.

You might not agree with his post, but that is not a misquote.

Nothing has being taken out of context.

"Mosley re. McLaren's Spa appeal"
This is definitely out of context, at least without a source to back it up

Why is it out of context, if the quote is from Max commenting on the Spa incident, it isn't out of Context, as the poster has titled it

Mosley re. McLaren's Spa appeal:



http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70528

Please go away Max and disappear and take those who want you to stay in your job with you.

the engines they use now are still arserapingly expensive to build and use, they are essentialy the same as the old v10's and unlimited v8s, requiring amazing detail care construction, useage and looking after.

he always use to throw around the "bringing the sport into disrepute" charge, and he has managed to eclipse them all.

hardly anyone takes him seriously anymore either

You betcha

i absolutely and utterly hate this guy, never have i seen such arrogance, he thinks hes above the sport and everyone involved in it and he couldnt care less if he brings the sport in to disrepute, i beg he leaves the sport or get hit by a car

Anomander: Thanks, you beat me to it! By quite a long way...

SchumiBoy: Sorry, I should have included the link in the post. I'm new to this forum lark - still feeling my way.

It wasn't out of context, but it was maybe a bit too 'selective', right enough. Quoting one sentence in isolation out of an entire interview isn't usually fair.

Still, re. the above link, I believe suggestions that the FIA is biased against McLaren and in favour of Ferrari, or for or against any team or driver, are, as Max Mosley put it, "completely untrue." IMHO, anyone who believes otherwise has serious issues.

Well, what would you be like if you'd been caught doing what he's been caught doing?

And what's wrong with having a clown in charge of the circus?

A few suggestions for Max's successor:

Krusty the Klown
Coco the Clown
Bozo the Clown
The Joker (now there's someone who knows how to run a corrupt organisation)