We may not agree on mosley but you sure can make me laugh

Q. Obviously it's a pivotal stage of the world championship and although hindsight is a wonderful thing, why take a gamble like that at a time like this when everyone else is going out on extremes?

LH: Good question. I don't know what the answer is

Poor Lewis. I wonder how he will reflect on this in the upcoming autobiography this coming xmass.

The one advantage of him finishing 15th in qualifying after a bit of a boast is that it makes his detractors happy for a while and makes him more humble and likeable until the next slightly misguided pronouncement ;)

I don'te recall MS ever shooting his mouth off the way Lewis constantly does. Despite the dreaded British Press's never ending accusations of arrogance, Schumi generally acknowledged the team's role (right down to the cook and cleaning lady ) while playing down his own contribution. The guy seems positively humble compared when compared to Lewis. The irony of that self same British press now fawning all over their boy all the while completely ignoring his arrogance is quite breathtaking.

Perhaps it's because he doesn't yet know that it's is a pivotal stage of the world championship, none of us do. Massa may slide off on the first corner tomorrow, which would be more pivotal. That is the beauty of F1, you just don't know what's going to happen. But don't let that stop you having a dig eh.

Like he was having a dig at kimi last week?

Total and utter BS! His balls hasn't shrunk one bit and that is what causes his problems. You see, his new and enlarged set of balls do not fit into the cockpit anymore. This forced the team to hastily cut a hole in the bottom of the car to accommodate said pair of balls. I bet you have no idea how badly a pair of balls protruding out of the bottom of the car disturbs the airflow underneath it. Especially a pair of Lewis-sized balls.

that's so funny!!! LMAO!

But seriously, I think they were hoping for a dry race so they went for the dry setup. Also, he was send out on intermediates and as soon as he was out it stated raining more - making it pretty difficult to set a better time.

Giancarlo Fisichella in a Force India is quicker around Monza in the rain than Lewis in a McLaren. Given the fact that Lewis is always so quick to compare himself to Ayrton, I can honestly say that I have never seen Senna really slow in a wet race because he is too scared to go fast.

That was from a Q&A with Lewis. Which gave a good rundown, on why he didn't make it into Q3.

It really puts things into perspective. He's a talented driver, but has a lot to learn in the area of making sound judgments, same last week at Spa. Wait a corner or tuck in behind Kimi at the Bus Stop and he'd be fine.

Now this is Q2, the aim is to get into Q3. The things not being perfect in Q1 were that Kovi beat him and quite crucially Hamilton used a second set of extreme wets.

But even if it looked as if the rain was getting easier, what was the point of taking inters. Even if the track had improved, he'd shot a set of inters for nothing, when the track would have been at it's fastest.

So nothing in that decision to take inters made any sense.

Huge balls meaning nothing if they're grown to compensate for brain size.

dont they only have 3 sets of extreme and 4 of inters.... for the entire weekend
makes more sense to try and use the inters instead of burning through all teh extremes

IMO Lewis was racing with a full dry set up. He waited in his pit box for a dryer period in qualifying and it backfired on him. His side of the garage seemed certain that the rain would ease. Bad call by his side of the garage. If he does have a dry set up and the race is dry, he can still have a very good Sunday.

Fire requires, Fuel, Oxygen, and HEAT. Water is a common fire supressant.

Given the above facts and that it was indeed raining at the time, he wouldn't be burning any tires in the littoral or just more sense World.

Those tires while it is wet will last the entire race.

Today, Sept 13 2008.

Lewis told us himself that he glazed the brakes which prevented him from getting heat into the full wets once he got back on them. A simple problem really, No need for any fancy theories.

The boogey man happened to Hamilton in Q2.

That has to do with the brakes not the tyres. It's fairly simple, for some obscure reason McLaren thought it had stopped raining and the track was going to improve. Ergo Lewis chooses inters. It then pours. He tiptoes around as he'd have to and then pits - AND gets called into the weighbridge. He sits there, gets pushed back down to the pits, changes to extreme wets - and there's nothing left out there to give. He burns off fuel for a few laps and tries a quicky on the last to no avail - the conditions aren't there to get P10.

" I'd already glazed my brake on the first lap I did out and I couldn't get the temperature back into them. And I couldn't keep the temperature in the tyres. " -LH

you can just imagine the snide remarks and smirks directed towards him.

pride goeth before the fall

how about vettel circulating more than 2sec/lap faster than lewis even in q2.

having said that lewis usually is pretty good in changeing conditions. some of us tried to point out that lewis effort in fuji did have extenuating circumstances and that many others matched him also when in clear conditions suggesting that maybe in extreme wet luck plays some part also.

Time to build another Kingsize McLaren then to house Hamiltons balls.

Just like in 1995 when it was Mansells ass that was too big to fit into the car.

I agree completely that compared to Lewis - you can say Michael is a very good schoolboy. Really I think thats very true. But the point I was making was that - At such an early stage of his career he is already making a lot of enemies or detractors by having these "foot-in-mouth" moments that very soon he will have a large Anti-Lewis faction just like how there is this huge Anti-Ms faction (for different reasons of course.)


Basically Lewis screwed up in qualy today - he had a bad day as did his engineer - they screwed up at a pivotal time in the championship. This will have far reaching consequences unless he can amortize this in the race. Which I seriously doubt - he is in the worst part of the grid - it could be wet - and a lot of crashers around him. He might as well be better off just letting all the hustlers past him for once

It would be a good lesson for Lewis to know when to keep his big mouth shut - but I doubt he will learn. Just wait till he is back at the front again - he will be talking about " how all the detractors were running him down at Monza " perhaps he will even shout - "Thats what I am talking about man ! "

Yeah, I think the real reason MS had his detractors as to do with his utter dominance.

To be truthful, I really do enjoy Lewis' self serving proclamations, it adds tremendous comedy to the whole serious f1 business. Particularly when things backfire on him so quickly as they did this week. Having said that, I think there is no doubt the kid is very good and is gonna win a buncha races. And I expect he'll eventually mature a bit and hopefully get over himself, but I hope that takes a while. We haven't had such a smart ass since Irvine (although, of course, he was 'taking the piss' while Lewis is, ironically, dead serious).

Well it's obvious why Lewis is slower, he isn't taking his usual shortcuts.

Well according to a number of people around here thats not true, it's all orchestrated by Max and Ferrari

I wonder why we don't have a thread about why kimi messed in q2. Any takers? Hamilton has already stated he made a mistake, frank and no if or buts I think with kimi, he still blames the car...but hey we can all pile and bitch it on lewis

Apparently his balls were glazed at the beginning of Q2.

ok I cant resist and stop at only one.

The real reason was that he was gripping his balls at the time, and had a real good feel for them, which made him squint and he missed his braking marker.

Exactly.

The only way for Lewis to win any Championship with McLaren is for the team to employ a 'Director of Common Sense'. A bloke with an overide button on the intercom who can point out the blindingly obvious.

Hamilton didn't need to win Q2, he just had to get into Q1, so if all the other drivers clear off on full wets, then why not just go with the flow? Besides which, after a banker lap on wets he could have tried inters after the track dried more (which it didn't). McLaren drivers have been tripped up by the team carrying on with their 'script' for to long now.

Steve

to answer your wondering question is simple. Its because Kimi didnt make any quotes about balls and feelin for grip at the beginning of the race weekend.

I dont have a serious prob with drivers speaking their minds and or even winding up the others, but when you do make sure you back it up at the next race at least, else you are an easy target.


On another note, i feel Massa deserves more credit than he's given for his Q2 performance, he's the one guy that stuck at it and somehow managed to push it up into 10th and squeak into Q2, and he did the laps at more or less the same time as Hammy, Kimmi & Kubica

Ok I have to post this, I was laughing my butt off this morning:



Captions translated:

"Hamilton, we've got a problem with the aerodynamics"

"What do you think it could be?"

I hope it rains, Sebastian can make it to the podium then. If it's dry gonna be difficult.

THis is actually funny, as was the cartoon about Alonso posted a few days ago ...

Keep`em coming!

I didn't see Alonso's cartoon, would you care to post it here?