Hello friends:


Does anybody know who will be the stewards for the italian GP?
Where (and when) is this information available?

Thanks in advance

Languedoc

Larry, Curly, and Moe, evidently.

To be fair, it looks from the evidence presented that the stewards were right, the majority of the teams and drivers also support their position on the spa incident. I think they would know more then most about this.

It was mentioned on i believe Pitpass.com who the stewards would be for this race. They are not the same ones from the Spa event.

I wasn't implying they did a poor job, more of a reflection of the media's portrayal of the events actually.

The stewards for all the GP's is Alan Donnelly.

And the hand inside Alan Donnelly is Max's.

Otherwise we'd know a bit more about it, and there would be some majority decisions.

Ew, do you have to be so graphic..

Sorry! But Max started it...

I thought there were 3 stewards with Donnelly being the chief steward at every GP?

Seems that you're wrong... It's a one man show...

http://www.planet-f1.com/story/0,18954,3213_4134454,00.html

Oh, yes Donnelly certainly is the "chief steward" ...

He's a complete bar steward.

Lots of chicane cuts in GP2 but so far only one penalty (and not for cutting chicane). It seems that the stewards in Monza give more freedom to the drivers - exactly opposite to Spa guys who were very harsh giving penalties in GP2 and F1.

Sorry i think you are getting confused. Seems that Donnelly himself is not solely responsible for steward decisions. There are 3 stewards at every GP, but in the interests of maintaining a similar level of punishments the FIA has a "chief steward", this being Donnelly.

This is done in many forms of motor racing. In the Australian V8 Super Car series they have a single steward who passes all judgements, at least in F1 there is a panel of 3 stewards in addition to Donnelly.

So seems you are wrong, you may want to re read the context of the article.

How can that be, hasn't the rule been "clarified" now?

You can try and spin it the way you want, in the end there's only one man rulling the show, the other 3 are only part of the furniture...

In any case, it doesn't matter, they will phone Mosley if they are unsure what to do. Mosley is always consistent in his "advice", we can count on that.

Seems, that you are getting confused.

Donnelly shouldn`t be in any way doing the stewards work or be in any way making decisions etc.
He represents the FIA president at events, that is his only function.

Still twisting?

Well, the problem has never been chicane cutting, the problem is when you cut the chicane and gain a advantage (e.g. overtake another car for the most part) and I have not seen a single incident where a driver has gained a advantage in the two GP2 races this weekend, they have all backed off and let the other driver take his place again.

So in actual fact the 3 stewards have the final say. Is that what you are saying Peroa? This is what i believed to be the case but some here seemed so sure that Donnelly had the final call under the rules of the FIA. This does not seem to be the case.

Not getting confused, asking for someone who knows 100% how the stewards and Donnelly operate to state the facts; not their version of.

Can anyone confirm that it is actually the 3 stewards alone who have the casting votes on any punishments handed down to drivers and teams?

Hence the fact that Donnelly does not have a vote?

just one hand?

nice try... and in his function of representing the FIA president, he interrogated Hamilton in Spa

But if they had not administered the penalty I don't think anyone would still be discussing the incident now. I'm sure that most people would have just chalked it up as a racing incident and moved on. We know that there is 'evidence' for every incident, it doesn't always mean there is a correct penalty applied, especially as there have been precedents in the past for similar incidents. Consistency is what everyone wants, one way or the other. That's why the stewards should be permanent for each race and as independent as possible.

He doesn`t have a vote, he is not a steward, he represents the president of the FIA at events.
Isn`t it awkward that he interviewed LH, he alone? None of his business ...

Unless the other 3 are retarded, I guess the conspiracy theorist have a case here ...

and even if he doesnt have a vote... he can influence the voting process

In the end, just the tabloids having a story to sell.

I think there is a case that the other 3 stewards lacked the balls to impose a penalty, where given the evidence i think it is quite fair to say Lewis did get an advantage.

For the record i was actually thinking the penalty was unfair and Lewis would win the appeal, but having listened to the comments of the majority of drivers and reviewed the incident in more detail i think an impartial person would say the FIA stewards/donnelly/whoever got it right.

If it was in fact Donnelly who pushed for the punishment then the FIA should get rid of the stewards from Spa as that should have been their job!

At one level you can criticise Donnelly for getting involved in something the stewards should have handled, but on the other you should get upset with the fact that the stewards didn't do their job that the FIA appointed them for.

I'm not the person to pass judgement on the issue, i will leave that for neutral supporters, but i can still have an unbiased view on the issue, it's just it wont mean much to many because of the team i support.

End of the day, listen to the comments of the F1 drivers, these are the best guys to speak to regarding any advantage Lewis got if any. Also goes to show how wrong the media can get it, they were immediately at the throat of the FIA claiming a conspiracy, if they were right it seems almost every driver and team on the F1 grid is involved in this conspiracy theory!!

Sometimes i think the media are more to blame for the problems in F1 simply because of their knee jerk reporting, they should learn to look at the facts. However i must admit upon intial view of the incident i thought the stewards were being very harsh also.
I still think it was harsh, but also very fair.

Lets not flog a dead horse though.

That`s twisting it to the Maxxx!

Correction; the UK tabloids, the rest of the world couldn't care less

They have not had a champ since 1996, they are getting a bit desperate obviously. But it keeps F1 on the front pages which Bernie is happy about.

Obviously undersquare just has some rather sick fantasies involving himself and Max