This weekend it certainly looked like Toro Rosso mechanics stole Hamilton´s Balls from McLaren garage. I believe ATM they are in possession of Räikkönen, who was the fastest in the end.

Lewis turns up for work with them in a wheelbarrow.

Webber's car had some problem with the flower-bearing after Lewis incident.

When the track was dry?

There were two outstanding drives today - Vettel and Hamilton. Not to take anything away from Vettel but one was a harder job than the other.

That was mostly fuel load. And the appaling track conditions.

If Hamilton doesn't have balls does this mean there will be no Hamilton juniors in the future?

Semi-wet, more like.

Are you suggesting Hamilton only has the advantage of king-sized balls with extreme wet tyres? With inters...it´s all gone? Doesn´t make sense; big balls are big balls, regardless of tyres.

Since he's a male, I'd hazard a guess that he does... Perhaps someone here could take him behind a curtain somewhere and make a positive identification(s)...

Tell this to the 65 people who voted no

You can say whatever you want about Hamilton, some of them might even be true, but he does definitely have balls. A great drive today, not taking anything away vrom Vettel's sensational drive. Saw some fantastic overtaking.

Lewis has definitively balls.
Balls to push Glock out of track, chop Alonso after he overtook him and send Webber out of the track when he was trying to overtake him. And he was complaining about Kimi not giving him space.
But he will not be punished as should be due to the pressure of the British press.

He is from Stevenage, he probably already has about 15.

If Hamilton did not have balls moving from 15th to a points position then what does that make Kimi look like (dude looks like a lady)?

All the cars had strong and poor points as conditions changed but you can't argue with the tale of the tape, Hamilton maximised his 15th position and got more placings than any other driver today.

He could have been slaughtered on this forum today but he did more enough to keep the howling wolves at bay.

Regards

Andy

He has no respect for other drivers. He proved today and friday with the balls declaration.

How very Schumacher/Sennaesque.....

Maybe thats what you need. A healthy belief that you are the best.

Kubica recovered 8 positions also, just like Hamilton, and to earn himself a podium.

That's why he's leading the poll on Formula 1 website.

Lewis has big balls. Maybe too big......

Heikki simply sucks.

McLaren was sooooo superior to Ferrari today, that Hamilton passed Kimi like he was standing still, and then passed a bunch of other cars, while Kimi (whos supposed to be a great wet wheather driver, and has nothing else to lose) stayed put.

Dont get me wrong, Lewis had a great damage-limitation race, but he had the best (by far) car under him.

MODS: please change the poll title to "Do you like Hamilton?"

Did Kubica change onto inters on his scheduled stop though? I'm sure I remember Hamilton passing him at some stage, I can't think of anyone else who got as close to Vettel as Hamilton.

"Heikki simply sucks."

Everyone needs to agree on a concensus here.

We've been hearing all season that Lewis is being favoured over Heikki, hence his better results, yet as soon as Heikki gets the chance to shine he comes up shine, and Lewis has a fantastic race on a full tank of fuel, which could have been even better with luck on his side.

Is Lewis just plain better, or is Heikki still being sabotaged by McLaren.

Answers on a postcard please.

Is it me or does Heikki does not seem happy at McM?

At the press conference today he seemed visibly upset at the fact that a problem he had in qualifying was not only NOT fixed on Saturday but got considerably worse during the race.

I'm telling you, this kid ain't going to last at McM.

Would you be happy if you'd just finished behind a Toro Rosso in a McLaren, in a race without problems for yourself?

He had problems with the brakes. And he was driving behind another car.

And I'll remind you EVERYONE finished behind a Toro Rosso, not just Heikki.

He's fed up of getting number 2 treatment. Hamilton has no balls. Was bullied over and over during school, not easy to grow up in a racist country. I bet Kimi or Alonso were not bullied by anyone.

I can think of a few guys that were in front of Vettel after he pitted though.

I've only seen him mention that he had problems heating the brakes, same situation as everyone else. Hamilton was driving behind 15 cars and it didn't seem to bother him.

And of course they did, but everyone else wasn't starting on the front row of the grid, in a championship contending car, which is supposed to be good in both the wet and at Monza. Except Lewis that is.

EDIT -

"I can think of a few guys that were in front of Vettel after he pitted though."

With the same number of pit stops (planned) remaining though?

I can't really tell you.

He just looks unhappy. Also, he's no spring rose when blaming himself, I've hear him be pretty critical of his own driving. But when Heikki complains in public about something that happened with the car... you know he has a major issue.

well, unfortunately for him, he did have a good strategy for one half of the race but not for the rest. sure it if had rained again we would be in a strategic advantage, but as it didnt it means little that he got close to vettel.

doing a lap analysis, you can tell that hamilton truly shined in the end of his first stint (when he got close to vettel) and after he switched to intermediates (lap 38 to 40 when he caught Massa who couldnt do better times because he didnt manage to pass heidfeld), the rest of the time he was no fast or was actually slower than many in the rest of the grid.

hardly teached anyone how to race in the wet, thus proving my point that he did great, but it wasnt a rainmaster performance. Looking at the lap times, Vettel's win looks even more impressive actually.

I don't even understand what you're arguing about. I've said that if he'd been a little luckier with his strategy he could very possibly have won, I don't think thats too far out to say? My original post which you responded to was the comparison to Kubica. Kubica's strategy went very well, Hamilton's hit a large snag, yet they moved up the same amount of positions. I think this is a very impressive performance. Any arguments?

And of course Vettel's drive was superb, it was in a Toro Rosso and in the wet, and a dominating win at that. Lest ye not forget that he had less fuel and a more straightforward strategy though. I haven't seen the race times yet though so you may be right and he totally blitzed Lewis regardless of this, I'll have to go look.

Depends how people perceive having balls. If making massively impressive late braking overtaking moves then yes, he has got balls.

Oh yeah that reminds me, I haven't answered the original question.

Yes, I do think Hamilton has balls. I think it is likely that they are both vast and potent.

im not really argueing about much, just that statement of "i cant think of anyone who got as close to vettel" didnt make much sense to me so i reacted.

about the rest, im just showing what i've been defending in this and other threads, its not specifically aimed at you, Insane111. Hamilton was entertaining to watch specially in that first stint, but even at that time, Massa was lapping faster than him.

so many people are going crazy about how amazing lewis' performance was, as i expected to happen after yesterday's dissapointment, but he wasn't really that dominant, specially if you consider the car he was driving.

Where did Lewis start and where did Felipe start, and where did they finish?

Why all these (reasonable) questions?
You will be labeled a "Hamiltoniac troll" ...

What do you mean the car he was driving? Going by your arguement kova should have won by 30mins.

Really? http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=zUe-HHDXkak

Not only is Lewis much better than Kova, but Lewis (it was pretty much confirmed today) had the car prepared to run under wet conditions, even his strategy today was planned for that, while with Kova its not clear that was the case.

Massa went from 6th to 6th and Lewis from 15th to 7th. So what exactly does that prove? It's a fact that Massa was faster in his first stint, which is what i said. If you really want to go there, then the 11th -> 3rd that Kubica pulled would be better without a doubt and Raikkonen wasn't that bad, from 14th -> 9th and around 10 seconds behind Hamilton...

In the wet with conditions continually changing throughout the race its really silly to compare driver performance like that. Strategy, luck, is a big factor as well. Lewis could be more lucky, but then again, he could have done a first stint like Kubica's, which would maybe make it more difficult to overtake the midfielders and it would be worse for him even with one less pitstop, you never know...

what if, what if, what if...

Hamilton certainly has balls. And having the best car in the wet did not hinder as well.

Let's hope so. We don't need more arrogant, unsporting, craptalking, whining a-holes.

Correction. Hamilton was driving behind 13 cars. He qualified 15 and Bourdais did not started the race. Seems that Mr. Balls fans can not count much.

It is my one and only goal in life to be labeled a Hamiltoniac troll. I'd bask in the irony of someone who is probably more of a Lewis Hamilton anti-fan than a fan of any other driver, such is their immense hate, calling me that for days.



I don't think that, as a statement, it was too ridiculous to be fair. Hamilton had started 15th (14th really I suppose), got off to a mediocre start in the first couple of laps then suddenly he was 2nd and gaining on Vettel at a rate of knots. He may have still had to stop, but so did Vettel, so did Kovalainen. Asking the question about the luck of the pit stop may be a "what if" scenario, but it is by no means a overly optimistic one. The car he was driving didn't look close to being as fast as Lewis was going in the hands of Kovalainen either.

About Massa - He was 5 laps lighter than Lewis, and near the front of the grid, I'd expect him to be going faster.

Is the only thing that stopped Lewis' performance from being a dominant one the fact that his strategy got wrecked then? Because that's the only thing that prevented him getting a podium. Other than yesterday of course, which shouldn't skew your opinion of the race drive anyway.



Good god you're petty. Has that made Lewis look really bad now, that he was ONLY driving behind 13 cars? Yeah, makes him look like a real amateur, huh?

I'm not sure why I even bothered responding to such a pathetic post, because no doubt everyone else realised what I said without needing me to explain it. But I did, oh well.

He has balls, but no brain.

I think Kimi also has overtaken quite a few cars at the end of the race while the other drivers mostly gained their position during the pits. I would give a thumd up to both Lewis and Kimi for fighting for positions.

insane, hamilton won a lot of time to Vettel in a particular situation when his car was in better shape, and vettel's was still finding the pace after the first pitstop and different tyres and fuel load.

but after hamilton pitted, vettel made a bigger gap again. when vettel pitted for intermediates he had a 35 second advantage over hamilton iirc which was enough to stay in front with a quick stop, even if hamilton had not pitted in the same lap.

sure had it continue to rain, hamilton would do better than kova, and could put some pressure on vettel, but imagine the chances kova would have if the track dried sooner, maybe better chances than vettel himself. on a dry track and knowing you can't change setups that much, maybe it would be kimi going up the pack, not lewis, who knows?

what if scenarios are cool, but they are always a lot of speculation.

With that kind of amazing driving, i would rather have the balls than the brain. Kimi seems to have the brain to just cruise, take a nap and then wake up in the last laps of a race just in time to record the "fastest lap" of the race