WoW! What a race.

I think we had the first time quite consistent and fair stewards' decisions (maybe apart from that Bourdais-Massa clash which was just race incident imho).

Renault - Alonso - it's unbelievable but they had probably best car in this race, fantastic Fernando, good Piquet
BMW - Kubica - somebody said he can't defend his position... well you saw it today, very good result in this crappy car
Ferrari - Raikkonen - in such a great car he should overtake Kubica and have better race pace in the first part of the race

McLaren - Hamilton - he was too greedy at the start of the race, he said he can now calm a bit and race for the points, well he can't
Ferrari - Massa - good start but that attack on Lewis was stupid

Bourdais beat Vettel

Another great drive from Alonso. Who'd have bet on back to back wins at the half way point of the season? I would not of bet on back to back points finishes.

Massa and Hamilton were both complete idiots. Lewis has learnt nothing from last year clearly, and Massa is was too stupid to take advantage.

Otherwise... meh

Absolutely faboulous victory again for Fernando, fully deserved. Congrats also to the whole Renault team, they've improved way beyond over what I thought was possible a few months ago.

Massa and Hamilton.. both behaved like incompetent fools today. The last two races will be interesting to watch if they keep up that kind of excellence..

Alonso - Just like Singapore he got a lucky break and when the opportunity was presented to him, he took it with both hands and ran away from everyone else.
Kubica - Excellent racing at the end with Raikkonen, I feel he could have done better but the Renault was quicker.
Kimi - Finally grabbed some points. Tough luck with the incident at T1 at the start, this race was his but it didn't work out. Atleast he worked well for the WCC.

Hamilton -

Karma always strikes at the best moments.

Massa - Did well to grab a point but wasn't good at overtaking.

better race than expected.

Fun race, surprising result, plenty of battles, entertaining to watch.

Massa and Hamilton were an embarrassment today, keep your cool! I really wish Kubica somehow still steals the title, he deserves it more than them...

Renault are really coming strong now, I'll have to concede it probably has something to do with Alonso's car development skills, it has been a huge step forward since the beginning of the year.

Kimi was alright today, messed up by Hamilton's crazy start, but should've got past Kubica. Oh well, getting back to the podium is already an improvement after 4 races without points. He's now mathematically out of the WDC.

Toro Rosso keep collecting points and Bourdais finished ahead of Vettel today, well done.

Massa flew when he was on the track, but overall drove like a moron.

Great drive Alonso. Kimi was fast when he sobered up on the second stint.

We don't actually have a decision for that, though, do we? Despite it occurring with a quarter of the race to be run they decided to investigate later.

The stewards made history today, though. For the first time ever someone was penalized for running wide. Anything to boost The Show.

FA was peerless today, he really made it look easy. Piquet was surprisingly racy until Renault suggested he turn it off late on. Where has that sudden boost come from? Has the FIA let them have Ferrari/McLaren jungle juice to stop them whingeing about the engine freeze?

And how much are BMW rueing the decision to concentrate on next year's car? Unless Kubica treats the 2009 field as his bitch, they've blown a great chance at the title. In fact, both titles. And it emphasizes just how disappointing Heidfeld has been this year, he was nowhere.

That was a good race.

Alonso

Kubica

Kimi for the start alone.

bankoq.

No. Renault did not have the best car but the best driver and a good car. So easy.

nice job from ferrai international assitance

FERNANDO

Roll on 2009 ;)

Well-deserved win for Alonso. Now there is a man who does have the temperament for the big occasion... congratulations to Piquet as well.

Agreed, I don't think the Renault was fastest today. It was quick alright, but not the quickest. Fernando is driving like in 2005 again, making full use of the opportuinities presented to him.

Fernando you freaking legend!!!!!!!!!!!! Amazing stuff.

Kimi could have won this if it wasn't for Lewis... what a stupid move at turn 1... deserved penalty.

Massa flying when on track, but wasting a good portion of the race outside of it... and that move on Hamilton was ridiculous... deserved penalty.

Kubica was great holding Kimi's attack!

I can't help but praise Alonso for his performance today. It was reminiscent of Schumacher's 1998 victories. Not the best track, but the best driver, at least on the day.

Massa was flying in the last 25 laps, shame for that Bourdais thing. On the Hamilton thing, he did not do it on purpose but the penalty was deserved.

For Hamilton-Raikkonen, well, here's my take. Kimi was way too kind to him, he yielded to avoid a collision and lost out majorly. Whilst the penalty maybe stretching it a bit far, Hamilton was overly greedy with that move..

A Masterclass from Alonso. Who on earth would have thought he Renault would win two races in a row this year? Just goes to show you cant keep great drivers down. Also great development from the team this year.

Hamilton and Massa are both clowns. Hamilton talks and talks about being cool but he always loses his head. Looks like he will never learn but he might get lucky this year because Massa is almost as bad. He made that mistake and let Hamilton through and then simply drove into him. Its a total toss up who will win the WC between them. Who makes the least mistakes I guess.

It must have been FAIRLY quick to get Nelson into 4th.

I'd say they failed miserably. Handing out penalty to Massa surely doesn't really "assist" the Scuderia that much?

Stop lowering the quality of this board, please.

Has there ever been a penalty for 'forcing a driver offtrack' into turn one, in a battle for the lead? is this a sport anymore?

Yes, you're right. If they kept developing the car and kept the consistency they would probably won WDC with Robert. But on the other hand who could ever imagine so many mistakes from Ferrari and McLaren drivers?

not quite as lucky as Singapore, small bit of luck, huge skill, victory!!!!



More than 6 tenths?!

Of course it was, I said it was quick. However in clean air the Macs and Ferraris looked better.

I want to hear the jokes about the 6 tenths.

Alonso great great win!
Kubica great strong race aswell
Kimi ok
PK ok
Hamilton, what a jerk in the first corner, IDIOT move trying to go inside there
Massa jerk aswell for lap 2

Renault

Oh yeah forgot to mention Piquet, he was quick and consistent.

Renault to me, were atleast the 2nd fastest car today and they have moved very far since the start of the year.

Hamilton's penalty at T1 was fully deserved, he didn't simply run wide, he tried being aggresive and running deeper into the corner, he caused a lot of chaos and could have led to a large pile-up, thankfully, Kimi was sharp enough to actually move out of the way.

Massa's penalty was also deserved but he will be kicking himself, had he just accepted what had happened, Hamilton would have had the DT and Massa would have secured a large bundle of points.

The Bourdais-Massa incident was a racing incident, they both went for the same apex and tangled, not too dangerous and Massa ended up losing out anyway.

he forced a lot of drivers not one
i am actually glad massa and ham touched. it's high time he understands he is not alone on track and somebody has the balls to fight him

Very good judgement by the stewards btw

So it's ok for massa to cook his tyres at hungary, but for lewis is a idiot move... right...
Where does he was supposed to go?
We see things like that in most races,what about spa where lots of guys go wide?....

Yup, good consistency today

Fernando!!!! Well done amigo!!

So driving into another car is the way to go... Go to sleep troll...

Have you seen turn one? Absolutely deserved penalty for Lewis.

And at the end of the race, Lewis blocking brakes so close to Fernando??

Just a friendly reminder, we're actually discussing the 2008 Japanese GP in this thread.

Hate starts and this one was kinda messy. Not sure if Lewis should have received that penalty, but definitely Felipe - those two were just "meh" today.

Was really hoping for Robert to win - that would have been awesome.

Kudos to Fernando - two in a row - me thinks he'll stay with Renault.

Kimi - better tyres could have got 2nd, but I'm very happy he got 3rd - whew.

And Nelson - I'll be honest, that was a bit of a surprise - great drive.

But overall relatively a boring race, imho.

Yeah right, truth hurts....

He didn't "go wide"... you make it sound like he had no choice.

He made a bad judgement and drove other cars off the track with his decision, including the leader BTW, ruining an almost certain victory. It was a good call.

Massa's penalty is no discussion, he had no business claiming that corner.

The difference being that in Hungary, Massa executed the manoeuvre to perfection and did not force anyone to take evasive action..

When the other driver does it once and again. Yes.
It shows it is not a matter of balls but of being fair.
Hamilton is not. Everybody can be like him and he could be out of every race.
But he will never understand it. You neither.

Oh no?
Tell us where did he had to go?

Does anyone know how Lewis came out behind Massa at the end of the first lap?

Probably for the same reasons he went off the track on the first lap in Brazil last year..

Total BS> Lewis was not penalised for running wide. He was penalised for forcing other cars off the track. It was a reckless move and the penalty was totally justified. Even the fanboys at ITV had to agree with that.

So for you hamilton his the one who touched massa...

Four interesting races in a row now... Is F1 changing?

What is it with you people having registered during the last year or so on this BB? Do you have some kind of agreement to specifically make a mockery of all kinds of discussions based on actual arguments with those boring one-liners? By all means, let me know. I'm curious.

I bet this Kubica and BMW management is thinking. The lesson is: you don't pull out the plug when leading the WDC after 7 races.



Alonso and Renault Well deserved win, great consisency and pace. And what a great improvement of the car? Just compare them to BMW at the beginning of the season and now.

Kubica: good job. Not enough to beat Alonso, but a great, great fight with Kimi.

Kimi: could have been better. Props for nice and clean fight with Kubi.


Me: I missed the first 15 laps cause I thought race will start at the same time as quali, not 30 minutes before.

So.... it seems like Lewis hasn't really learned from last year then.

Was it really so unacceptable to be second behind Kimi after the first corner, considering where Massa was?

Have to say that was a reasonable penalty for his first corner divebomb. And another reasonable penalty for Massa.

Yes but I like the way in the post-race discussion the ITV 'fanboys' say Kubica had every right to push Kimi off the road during their little spat.

Both McLarens were too naughty at the start.

Hamilton got it completely wrong after his usual talk of 'want to win at all costs'

Kovalainen was probably playing a team game when he forced Raikkonen even further off track (see 0:08)

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fFQtXE-PprY

About that Massa vs. Bourdais thing. I'm inclined to believe that judging at how other pairs managed to find a way around the corner side by side, they should have to. I'm a little skeptical about a penalty for Bourdais but if issued, it would not be without reason.

Massa vs. Webber was fun too. I don't think there is an issue with either Webber squeezing Massa towards the wall or both of them driving over the pitlane exit..