I dont think x2 times WDC Damon Hill would agree Alonso is the true Champion.
It was a great win although it took the real title contenders to ruin each others races. Without this he wasnt on the podium.
Full Version: Bravo Alonso, the real champion
Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Without this he wasnt on the podium.
Without this he wasnt on the podium.
Any facts to back this up? Would have, should have.......
Originally posted by juandiego
Perhaps I did not explain it very well. I meant, I think he knows NOW he could have got those two necessary points, but with hindsight. I agree that by then he thought it was aimless to struggle as McLaren had already decided who was going to win.
Perhaps I did not explain it very well. I meant, I think he knows NOW he could have got those two necessary points, but with hindsight. I agree that by then he thought it was aimless to struggle as McLaren had already decided who was going to win.
now
Originally posted by fnz
Any facts to back this up?
Any facts to back this up?
The same amount as the FIA have as justification for Bourdais' penalty. Sorry for OT.
Seriously though, without incident, Alonso wouldnt have been able to beat the Ferraris without mistakes from them. Massa was over 0.7s faster than Alonso. Kimi was 3 tenths faster than Kubica and couldnt pass the pole (who defended amazingly). And who knows how fast Hamilton would have been. The Fuji track is a great equaliser between cars also.
Im not saying HE didnt deserve it, he drove a perfect race but it was again dependant on a gift. Albeit a much smaller one than Singapore.
Originally posted by juandiego
Perhaps I did not explain it very well. I meant, I think he knows NOW he could have got those two necessary points, but with hindsight. I agree that by then he thought it was aimless to struggle as McLaren had already decided who was going to win.
Perhaps I did not explain it very well. I meant, I think he knows NOW he could have got those two necessary points, but with hindsight. I agree that by then he thought it was aimless to struggle as McLaren had already decided who was going to win.
You explained it perfectly well. It's just that otoelpiloto isn't here as an F1 fan, merely as a hate campaigner, and so he anticipated something against FA instead of reading what you said
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Personally I don't think Fernando gave up, after going off at Fuji he was just slower than the Ferraris at Shanghai and Brazil.
Originally posted by undersquare
You explained it perfectly well. It's just that otoelpiloto isn't here as an F1 fan, merely as a hate campaigner,
You explained it perfectly well. It's just that otoelpiloto isn't here as an F1 fan, merely as a hate campaigner,
waste your time in describing yourself and let others introduce themselves...ok? the problem was I am not fluent in english and struggled to decipher certain sentences, I don't have any problem to noddle when I make a mistake as already did to him by giving thumbs up
Originally posted by otoelpiloto
waste your time in describing yourself and let others introduce themselves...ok? the problem was I am not fluent in english and struggled to decipher certain sentences, I don't have any problem to noddle when I make a mistake as already did to him by giving thumbs up
waste your time in describing yourself and let others introduce themselves...ok? the problem was I am not fluent in english and struggled to decipher certain sentences, I don't have any problem to noddle when I make a mistake as already did to him by giving thumbs up
Sure
Originally posted by juandiego:
"I agree Alonso could have won the WDC by himself "
you: "100% disagree"
What a total bullshit thread. I can't believe it wasn't deleted instantly.
Originally posted by Tenmantaylor
Massa was over 0.7s faster than Alonso.
Massa was over 0.7s faster than Alonso.
Totally agree with the .7sec on fastest lap, but take a look at the image below. It wans't until Alonso's 2nd stop Massa started to mach / beat Alonso's time. Alonso had some serious pace. (and yes, i know about fuelloads, traffic, ...)
First column is Massa, 2nd one is Alonso
Originally posted by DLaw
And, you would find Alonso has graining issue also.
No need to put down a true champ, Fuji is a win on merit.
And, you would find Alonso has graining issue also.
No need to put down a true champ, Fuji is a win on merit.
If having Hamiton and Massa messing around at the back of the field due to their stupidity is called Merit.
Yes he had a chance and he made the most of it - so did Vettel in Monza. Does that make him the real champion?
Is Alonso good? Yes
Is he the best out there - No
Originally posted by GerardF1
If having Hamiton and Massa messing around at the back of the field due to their stupidity is called Merit.
Yes he had a chance and he made the most of it - so did Vettel in Monza. Does that make him the real champion?
Is Alonso good? Yes
Is he the best out there - No
If having Hamiton and Massa messing around at the back of the field due to their stupidity is called Merit.
Yes he had a chance and he made the most of it - so did Vettel in Monza. Does that make him the real champion?
Is Alonso good? Yes
Is he the best out there - No
Then the question is - why would two champioships contender messing around at the back in the first place.
Read the time sheet above, please.
Originally posted by GerardF1
Is he the best out there - No
Is he the best out there - No
and who is?
Originally posted by BMW_F1
and who is?
and who is?
Hammie, but of course.
Originally posted by DLaw
Hammie, but of course.
Hammie, but of course.
oh.. yes .. the cracker .. I forgot..
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