I guess he'd have to win a championship first but the similarities are there.

Great car control. No fear at all. Incredible overtaking skills.

Blinding red mist causing stupid mistakes.


Mansell was alot more likable and I don't remember him being so pompous. He did have his moments though.

Stepney, maybe.

Mansell was a beast. Charisma and drama...

Never!
Even if he becomes WC in no way he can be.
And I'm getting sick of these endless comparissons :\

Hamilton with a tash.... can't see it!

You are kidding! Mansell was awful, full of bile, always bitching about someone. I was embarrassed to be the same nationality.

Lewis has genuine charisma, and is fundamentally a good-natured person. Compare their relationships with their teams. Or their books, Mansell's is 50% slagging people off.

Except fot 50% of your country people adored/supported him.
They even had a thing called IIRC "Mansell mania" and Save our Nige (tee shirts where made).

No. Mansell had a brain.

He does?! News to me.

I'm sure Lewis himself would be incredibly offended.

"I'm not the second coming of anyone. Except maybe Senna, whom of course I know I'm as good as already..."

Now you can!

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Save our Nige was a Sun campaign and should be treated about as seriously as anything in The Sun.

Mansell is a typical brummie out of the car, moaney, dull and always bitching. I still loved him though.

Well they attract(ed) the same kind of uninformed jingoist and hooliganesque "fans" to the sport.

As usual the sensationalist UK press are not helping things in their unstoppable urge to sell more newspapers by dreaming-up crazy headlines and even weirder conspiracy theories.

That's true. Nigel was/is alot more charismatic I guess.

Lewis has him on the drama though.

Is that drama tantrums or blowouts?

My curiosity has been satisfied! The Richard Prior look.

You're kidding right? Unless you're expecting someone to hit a rival fan over the head with a Thermos flask then I can't see how you can call British F1 fans hooliganesque! Biggest anoraks ever.

Try walking along the bottom of Tosa at Imola with a flag of a Ferrari rival if you want to see what it's like to be intimidated by F1 fans, have stuff thrown at you and be threatened to have your flagpole shoved up your arse.

LOL AT THAT.

Mansell, ultimate whiner, moaner, dramaqueen, actor, manipulator, paranoid, ackward....

Mansell was a total nightmare!

I loved the guy though!

Exactly... Me too !

Nige was my first kind of Hero in F1, i was only 5 when he retired but he was one of the things that first got me interested in motorsports

'Our Nige' wasn't my cup of tea, to use a peculiarly British phrase... in fact he's the only British driver I was embarrassed by. Bloody brave though. I'd say 'Our Lew' is just as brave but fundamentally more talented.

Mansell was paranoid, falsely believing that everyone was ganging up on him. Lewis isn't paranoid... he knows everyone is ganging up on him! That being the case, I could easily envisage a similar statistical record for them both - 30+ wins but just a single championship title of such dominance that not even the powers that run WWF1 could engineer it any other way.

I was embarrassed about that as well

E-e-r, I see a bit different picture. You're right Lewis is not paranoid but the majority of his fans are.

In terms of personality then Hamilton is not the second coming of Mansell, although both have unattractive personality traits (but what great racing driver doesn't?).

In the car I can definitely see the similarity. Whilst I agree that there's little doubt that Hamilton is a lot more talented the attacking nature, the bravery and the drama all remind me of Mansell. At Silverstone he looked like a genius yesterday he seemed to have left his brains back at his hotel. With both drivers you have/ had the feeling that anything can happen with them unlike Prost, Schumacher and Alonso (maybe Vettel in the future too by the look of it). With these drivers there is a sense of boring predictability if they are in front you can usually be sure they will win, with Mansell and with Hamilton too you can never feel too sure. There could be a tyre blow-out, a slide into the gravel trap a calamitous gearbox failure possibly caused by driver error, anything seemingly can happen.

I can definitely see the difference although I'm sure others will disagree.

I loved the pic of Lewis with the tash btw!

But, but... why hasn't he got any friends then?... it must be envy because he is sooo good.

Thank God that only makes him stronger...

We will never see a second coming of Nigel. Todays drivers are so much about their image, i cannot imagine them limping off the scene after pretty much every crash. His face looked like someone stole his toys every time he lost. I still liked him.


As for the hooligan fans he attracted according to someone in this thread. I believe that happened in several countries. Before Michael started winning German F1 fans were easy. As soon as he was on top there suddenly were those disgusting people too. In Italy people have always been enthusiast about the Scuderia, but the hooligans someone else mentioned weren't there either before Michael started driving for the Scurderia. And in Spain the same thing happened as you could see in winter testing 2008. Before that the Spaniards were a really nice crowd. Now they have hooligans amongst them as well. It's not the drivers fault. They are getting boiled up by the media and the "opposing" hooligans. Narrow-minded they are.

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As the younger of the two boys, Greg Mansell was the second coming. Lewis must have been third.

Mansell ain't gangsta

No, Lewis is the first cumming of Anthony Hamilton.

I am presuming that you are either trying to be ironic, or James Allen. The fundamentally good natured person who spent his entire time slagging off his team mate at a time when his team mate said "no comment". A fundamentally good natured person who claimed no wrong doing in ramming several cars off track whilst claiming his opponent purposefully ran into him despite him having more points, (meaning it would be madness), and should have been hit more. A fundamentally good natured person who 18 out of 20 drivers are creating a drivers meeting to discuss his dangerous driving, (something that even Schumacher didn't get).

So, either you have cracked a really funny joke, or shut the fluck up James.

I'm not sure Lewis is up there yet on the whinging factor ;)

+1

Also, is a person who cheats his team mate and breaks an intra team agreement "fundamentally good natured "?

I don't think so.

He did? Really??? Rammed cars???? Different TV feed in your part of the world then? Amazing, I'm astounded, wow..........

Kimi once, Alonso twice.

Also he didn't really apologize to Kimi LH: "I'm sorry IF I ruined his race" No **** Sherlock.
He never apologized to Alonso after ramming him twice in the same GP either and instead the ITV morons accused him of brake testing poor Lewis.

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He does?

One of the things Nigel and LH appear to have in common, is their total lack of imagination as to the consequences of their actions. When it goes wrong, then get in front of the microphones and whinge that it is all unfair and that shouldn't be the penalty.

Hamilton probably will win the WC, possibly even this year as long as the drivers he has pushed and bumped all over the track this year do not decide it's payback time in the next two races.

When he wins, will he do a Nigel/Frank Williams tantrum and fall out with Ron?

The real sign of cracking is the report that LH had left the circuit in Japan, only to return for interviews . Did he leave and return, possibly under instructions, or did he just hide?

1. He made one or two comments.
2. He didn't touch anyone yesterday.
3. You have no idea how many drivers or what they are going to say, and it's at the standard driver's meeting.

3 lies, + abuse

Your usual ill-natured standard.

He rammed his sidepod into the front of Massa's Ferrari at one point. The scoundrel.

I can see another rule clarification coming..."obstructing a Ferrari during a race"

this will also explain to Bourdais why he should have braked on the straight instead of driving willy-nilly into an apex that was required by a red car.

Actually...you might only look at it at face value in terms of obvious personality but the similarities are showing to be more than you'd imagine.

Nigel Mansell only has less race wins that Senna, Prost and Schumacher - but in comparison only has the 1 title to his name. He was impetuous, a lot of fire in his belly, split the british public like Moses had arrived, and made quite arrogant comments about fellow drivers (which to be fair was the norm in that era of drivers).

Above all else, the stats suggest Mansell was more about winning races than winning titles, thought not short of want for them.

Lewis is already fitting the bill...and I do believe he'll eclipse Alonso eventually in terms of pole positions at least, if not race wins too - but in terms of championships, if Alonso's given half a decent car I could see him winning 2-3 more titles in his yet-lengthy career. I can see Lewis losing a few titles even if he wins this one, despite constantly being in a competitive car from day one.

And in terms of personality, I'd say Alonso was more like Senna than Lewis is - intensely private, hypersensitive, that latin temperament, not knowing the meaning of being diplomatic, and whether rightly or wrongly far too sincere for their own good. Also, both are/were known to be overly-caring when happy, but completely ruthless and uncompromising if not.

Lewis is actually a lot more like Michael Schumacher in terms of personality; the butter wouldn't melt front sometimes, a PR dream, always saying the right thing but rarely doing the right thing; and many feel uneasy with his sincerity.

So yeah, saving the outer personality part, Lewis is a lot like Mansell in a british sense on track...

Ah, I see we're in fact referring to Bahrain and Canada, 3 errors, not quite the same as 'ramming competitors off track' ala Massa/Schumi style though are they?

I can see the similarities in the car. I would question whether Mansell was alot more likeable, although I always liked him. Although he did complain alot, I prefer this over constant 'I'm the best/no one will overtake me' crap Lewis comes out with.

Fuji for me was yet another fine example of the ferrari favouritism going on.

I'm fed up with the FIA being so inconsistant with its rulings.

And in relation to the thread title, you can't liken any drivers to each other. All drivers are different and I don't think Lewis has ever mentioned he wants to be like Mansell. He states in his book he admires senna, not that he's better than him btw.

reading other people's posts, i don't agree lewis is mr charisma, but he does seem to be genuine.

I wish lewis all the luck for the rest of the season, and i'm hoping he gets the title.

I can certainly see the similarities. I have to admit that I would rather see a bold driver who always tries to win, as Lewis and Nige both do/did, than one who always plays the safe game. Sure when things go wrong the consequences are dire but if they go right...

On a similar vein: if Alonso is Senna and Lewis is Mansell then who is Prost?

I started to follow F1 races in the mid 80's and was a great fan of "Big Red Five" (hence my nickname). Lewis is by far less experienced than Mansell was, but he also demonstrates great car control for sure.

This being said, I am not convinced that Lewis is the "new" Nigel of F1. I was not too happy with the whole Lewis-Alonso issue last year and I do not feel that Lewis was totally clean in that respect (remember Hungary '07 ?). I do not really remember Mansell playing tactics (but I could be wrong) as Lewis did last year.

Kubica is much more my favourite driver at the moment and has more of the "Nige" temperament in my view: clean, fast, great car control, no fear at all (considering his awful Montreal '07 accident). Only the moustache is missing ...and okay... he is Polish.

I'd disagree on the personality part with Michael.. and trust me when I tell you that I didn't like MS very much until after he had retired and I realized that he was special. (God that pained me to type)

Lewis to a certain extent is a pR's dream but lately the crap that comes out of his mouth just makes me want him to just STFU.

On track the guy is brilliant when not blinded by the red mist.

So Lewis, I know you are reading my post, so just STFU and drive the damn car. But most of all don't tell us you know every passing manouver, that the title is yours...etc. Just shut up and drive.

Cross between Jackie Stewart and the driving simulator.

The one who is Prost is probably the best driver and most balanced person.

Some folks think Lewis is the second coming of Christ.