In the hope that someone in power reads this bulletin board...

we don't want it. it will go for a no at 99%.

but bernie and tv' s will love it. the average viewer just watches the first 15' at the most. even if the race is still on the edge.

Problem is that someone in power keeps doing the opposite of what people want.. :\

I don't know where these guys get their ideas from, but they sure don't seem to listen to the fans. A big shot complains, like Briatore, and the brains go to work and come up with all sorts of ideas that has no relation to what the fans want.

the problem is that they don't really need the fans. they need the sponsorship of big business and this one's love to see their logos on tv for the longest time possible.

if i write to the fota complaining that i will not watch it anymore they will just say that i should be careful with the door hitting my ass.

this will be a excellent opportunity to end my f1 addition.

1 Yes. Weak bladder?

Sometimes but that can be solved with better racing.

I don't want shorter races, I want them longer.

At the moment I'd say only a smattering are the right length, 105 minutes minimum.

Absolutely not.
I won't bother losing sleep, getting up in the dark and/or rescheduling things for a stupid and short 60minute race.
I'd rather download it later.

When I first read the autorport article I thought: How the hell can the races be possibly even shorter???

They tell us they want a bigger bang for the buck, so those visiting a GP are do not feel scammed anymore. They say they want more action on sunday. HOW IS RACING FOR AN HOUR ACCOMPLISHING THAT?

If anything, I want longer races. Make them 2 hours long.

Shorter races = 2 races ?

I want longer races not shorter ones. Make all the races (except Monaco and perhaps Singapore) 450 km long. At the same time they can kick a few races of the calendar and replace them with better ones. I'm looking at you Sepang, Barcelona, Magny-Cours, Hungaroring and Valencia. You should be able to find a few better tracks to replace them.

To me it is irrelevant if there's supposed to be another short race to compensate for a long. You can swap a liver, or kidney in a human being, but if you swap the brain... well, the question arises who this person really is. F1 is losing its identity. Circuits that are an integral part of the sport´s history are removed from the calendar, and now they want to mess with the distance...

Every second the car is on track costs more money. With the teams being told to save money, this was inevitable.

Every second those old creepy money leeches stay in F1 costs more money. With the teams and manufacturers being told to save money, it should be inevitable that they dumped them already. Just follow the learned lessons from Wall Street.

Oh really?

Has someone suggested this BS? I want them to be 2hours

The cheapest solution would be to not run the cars at all and have three stooges... sorry, stewards to decide the result.

I want longer races, with no pit stops.

I say, make races longer!

I've made a list of the 2009 tracks, Abu Dhabi excluded, with the 2008 race times (or, when a race was wet or not (yet) held, 2007 or 2006 times). The average duration of races was 1 hour and 34 minutes, with Turkey and Spa being the shortest at 1 hour 26 and 1 hour 22.

Now, I'd like to see races last at least an hour and 45 minutes. So I propose a minimum distance of 350 km (in stead of the current 300). This could be done by adding 9 laps to each race, with the exeption of Silverstone, Singapore and Shanghai (+10), Budapest (+11), Interlagos (+12) and Spa (+7). I'd add 15 laps to Monaco, to make the race go just over 300 km.

Result would be that races would last an average 1 hour and 48 minutes. Monaco would go just over 2 hours, while the shortest would be Spa at 1 hour 36. I limited Singapore to 2 hours flat, because there's no data which wasn't influenced by Safety Car periods.

I have not taken reduced lap times into account. I used the same method that's currently used for the minimum distance: the number of laps to take the race over 350 km + 1 extra lap.

If you'd like to see my spreadsheet, please PM me.

Only 6 of us have ADD then so far

Isn't it 305 minimum currently?

You are really going to polarize the vote in favor of 'NO' when you pose the question like that, which is unfair. No one is going to say they want shorter races. What you completely fail to include is that shorter races will only be implemented if they ban refueling, with a good possibility of also including a 2-race weekend.

Its a package-type deal, not just shorter races, which effectively makes this poll useless because you dont mention that at all.

That could be. Then I call for a 355 km limit. But if I'm not mistaking, the results are the same.

Why do I have to mention that fact? I see absolutely no reason why the races should be shorter because they ban the refuelling and I am not interested in two sprint races. My question is simple - do the fans want shorter races regardless of compensations in any form or kind.

What about a time limit - 105 minutes plus 1 lap?

The whole point of wanting refueliing banning is to bring back real race strategies - enacted by the drivers. If banning refuelling results in shorter races then NO, I do not want it. I don't want a two race weekend, I have zero interest in such.

If we absolutely have to, this is the answer. Though even this seems wrong.

With qualifying on Friday to make sure something happens on that day, a race on each of the remaining days seems appropriate.

Just like that 'second rate' racing series A1GP. Or GP2.

Two races, so that'd be the Twin Prix'? Bad idea as far as I'm concerned.

The way it's now seems fine to me, and too much longer (2h+) might get a little boring considering the frequency of the races.

Shorter? They should be rather longer.
Singapore was something along the lines. I'm afraid they'll just cut some laps for next year though. Besides some variety wouldn't hurt, have some races that are as long as they are now and then some that are longer. I'm glad it rained in Monza this year otherwise it's just stupid.

Of course they wouldn't. Its like creating a poll to find out who wants slick tires or not. A more interesting question would be to ask if people would accept shorter races if it meant we got the ban on refueling.

And the races would need to be shorter because they dont have time to redesign the cars to accomodate larger fuel tanks at this stage.

What makes those series 2nd rate? Because they dont offer race long processions? Or because they dont have have a joke of a governing body?

I think if F1 adopted a 2 race weekend, you'd all fall in love with it eventually. People are just afraid of change.

For me the races are too short. And I think this is the general opinion.
A minimum duration of two hours and a maximum of three would be OK.

The only alternative I would accept is to have two races of 75-90 minutes.
But this is not what many would like.

Yes really

I voted yes by mistake, why can't i edit my vote

It's a hanging chad.....I demand a re-count!

so, according to your logic if the teams were running just a 1-lap race they'd make the most money? Of course they would make even more money if they weren't racing at all...

I voted Yes on purpose.


Anything to make those dull as f**k races end sooner.

Sundays should be 24 hours of non stop motorsports in all varieties and the majority of which should be F1.

Wow that's some kind of logic there.

The more the cars are on the track the more money it costs. Engines, gearboxes, wheels, tires, suspension parts...everything has a usable life. When said part reaches it's usable life it is destroyed and a new one must be installed; new pieces require money. Therefore I can conclude that the more the car is driven around a track the more money it will cost.

Shorter race, does not mean more interesting race.

Yes. A two-race format (with a sprint, i.e. shorter, race as in GP2) would be great in my view.

Do you want shorter races?

No, I want Max Mosley to go and live on Mars.

ps. I woudn't mind a variable race calendar, i.e., a mostly 200 mile races (or whatever they are currently) a night race, a sprint race weekend and perhaps a 400 mile 2 driver one car race.

But I don't want F1 turing into the BTCC for single seaters.

What I really want is longer races that look shorter

definitely dont want shorter races,some of them (when dry and no safety cars) are short enough as it is (eg monza) personally i think all races ought to be 1hr30mins minimum,if not 1hr45mins-2hrs

You can't be serious...Have you just started watching this sport or something?
There was never a time issue before we had refuelling. Why do we need it now?
And the question is right to the point!

No way, unless we have two races instead.

Because the teams would have to completely redesign the cars for next year. Adding in larger fuel tanks isn't just as simple as making a larger fuel tank. It would require a complete overhaul of the entire chassis, aero and suspension. Thats just too much to ask at this point, when most teams probably already have close to finalized designs for the 2009 cars.

If this is for 2010 or beyond, then they'd have time to build larger fuel tanks and wouldn't have any need for shortening the races. I dont think anybody at FOTA simply wants shorter races for the sake of shorter races. Its obviously only in conjunction with the ban on refueling and/or two-race weekends.

Every lap more on the track means lower costs per lap.

What they forget is that we are the real sponsors. Without you and I buying the product there would be no money to spend on sponorship and to a degree that is what is happening! They need to involve the fans more and give them what they want. The word Nascar might not be to many's taste but they know how to put on a good show and look after their fans.