Dooly Tilly
Oct 21 2008, 15:36
How far would Alonso go to stop Hamilton winning the drivers championship?
If Hamilton is out of contention and Alonso is leading Massa near the end of the race, would Fernando give up the win to hand the title to Felipe?
Also, would Alonso take Hamilton out if given half a chance?
What do you think?
No, neither will he crash into anyone nor will he move over for anyone.
Originally posted by Dooly Tilly
Also, would Alonso take Hamilton out if given half a chance?
It's not too much of a risk - he could take Hamilton out and Hamilton would probably be the one getting penalised for it.
Buttoneer
Oct 21 2008, 15:39
I think Alonso will go to the ghetto of Sao Paulo and find a hitman willing to take out Hamilton with a high powered rifle as he takes off from the startline.
If I were Hamilton, I'd accidentally wear Heikki's helmet.
Maximus
Oct 21 2008, 15:40
Originally posted by Dooly Tilly
If Hamilton is out of contention and Alonso is leading Massa near the end of the race, would Fernando give up the win to hand the title to Felipe?
No need 2nd place is worth 8 points, do the math.
Ricardo F1
Oct 21 2008, 15:41
Alonso was the first person to congratulate Lewis in the weighing room on Sunday. I really don't think he hates him that bad.
Buttoneer
Oct 21 2008, 15:43
Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Alonso was the first person to congratulate Lewis in the weighing room on Sunday. I really don't think he hates him that bad.
He was just putting a tracking device on Lewis so the hitman knows where to aim.
I think he hates the Mclaren team more than Hamilton
wewantourdarbyback
Oct 21 2008, 15:49
Alonso factor?
Is that like the Krypton factor?
otoelpiloto
Oct 21 2008, 15:53
Buttoneer
Oct 21 2008, 15:57
Originally posted by wewantourdarbyback
Alonso factor?
Is that like the Krypton factor?
No, crapped-on factor.
MarkWRX
Oct 21 2008, 16:02
I think it was Alonso trying to create some headlines. However, if he did something to affect the outcome of the race (besides just driving), like punting off Hamilton, then he should lose his Superlicense, plain and simple. If he moves over for Massa? I guess that's his perogative.
pingu666
Oct 21 2008, 16:06
i think alonso would rather have a better result than move over for massa. he probably knows lewis gifted him a win in japan too
GerardF1
Oct 21 2008, 16:25
Not that I think he will - But IF Alonso did take out Hamilton in Brazil in an obvious move. What could/would the others do?
The FIA can't punish Alonso in any way that would get the title in Hamiltons hands.
Ferrari will make some comments about it is a shame and all that while they giggle their fool heads off.
McLaren will scream and yell but what will that produce?
As to the punishment, well they have a precendent set for that and it is/was meaningless.
Briatore will say something about how it really must have been Hamiltons fault.
I'm not saying that IF it happened it is the worse thing that could happen to F1, but it would be awful close to it.
otoelpiloto
Oct 21 2008, 16:31
Originally posted by GerardF1
Not that I think he will - But IF Alonso did take out Hamilton in Brazil in an obvious move. What could/would the others do?
The FIA can't punish Alonso in any way that would get the title in Hamiltons hands.
Ferrari will make some comments about it is a shame and all that while they giggle their fool heads off.
McLaren will scream and yell but what will that produce?
As to the punishment, well they have a precendent set for that and it is/was meaningless.
Briatore will say something about how it really must have been Hamiltons fault.
I'm not saying that IF it happened it is the worse thing that could happen to F1, but it would be awful close to it.
let me think....IT WON'T HAPPEN, both massa and hamilton will race and hamilton will win as it happened last weekend
Originally posted by pingu666
i think alonso would rather have a better result than move over for massa. he probably knows lewis gifted him a win in japan too
I agree. The most he'd do is hold Hamilton for the maximum time while being lapped. Or get in front and let only the Ferrari through, but I suspect McLaren will fuel Hamilton light for the first stint.
Korben82
Oct 21 2008, 16:33
If you think Alonso's going to risk his superlicence trying to get Hamilton out of the track, you must be seriously insane.
juandiego
Oct 21 2008, 16:37
Well, Alonso has never behaved with unsportsmanship towards Hamilton on track. Only at the start of Spa and Brasil in 2007 they had a close fight for a very desired position. On the other hand, Hamilton rammed Alonso early this season in Bahrain?, innecessarily chopped in front of him in the straight at Monza, unlapped himself in the last lap at Japan and he has been strongly criticised by some drivers because of his aggressiveness. Now, if he is paid back with similar manouevres, how can he complain?
I think neither Alonso nor any other driver are going to push Hamilton out of the track directly on purpose but I'm sure they wish to give him a hard time if the occasion arises. Perhaps if he had not been so aggressive with some drivers, he would have it easier.
Mika Mika
Oct 21 2008, 16:37
Why would Alonso do that - he'd loose his superlicence.
Smudger
Oct 21 2008, 16:44
Can anyone show any evidence that Alonso (or anyone else on the grid) has shown bad sportsmanship - as opposed to daft, ungainly or just poor driving - at any time, let alone signs of being a homicidal maniac?
Because an F1 driver punting another one on purpose at speed would be homicidal, and quite likely lose more than a superlicence.
Why are there so many posters with febrile imaginations who think that a driver might do that? Other than the one who was chosen by god, of course.
If he would really bother, which I doubt, all Alonso would have to do is get in front of Lewis and stay there a bit.
Lewis will take care of the rest. See Brazil '07, Bahrain and Singapore '08...
But in reality, it takes some pretty dense and anxious Hamilton fans to believe he will get out of his way to screw Lewis.
Originally posted by juandiego
Well, Alonso has never behaved with unsportsmanship towards Hamilton on track. Only at the start of Spa and Brasil in 2007 they had a close fight for a very desired position. On the other hand, Hamilton rammed Alonso early this season in Bahrain?, innecessarily chopped in front of him in the straight at Monza, unlapped himself in the last lap at Japan and he has been strongly criticised by some drivers because of his aggressiveness. Now, if he is paid back with similar manouevres, how can he complain?
I think neither Alonso nor any other driver are going to push Hamilton out of the track directly on purpose but I'm sure they wish to give him a hard time if the occasion arises. Perhaps if he had not been so aggressive with some drivers, he would have it easier.
Not a very balanced post. You forgive Alonso pushing Hamilton off track at Spa (and ignore his brake tests of several drivers) and then produce this list of Hamilton's unsportsmanship:-
(1) Hamilton rammed Alonso early this season in Bahrain?
Unsportingly rammed? Or a mistake which cost Hamilton dear?
(2) innecessarily chopped in front of him in the straight at Monza
So Alonso pushing Hamilton off the track at Spa is forgiven, but Hamilton pushing Alonso to the edge of the track at Monza is unsporting?
(3) unlapped himself in the last lap at Japan.
So Hamilton is not allowed to unlap himself? Brundle pointed out that Hamilton unlapped himself so that he'd be moved up the order if any driver ahead of him was subsequently penalised (there's also the possibility of last lap retirements) - drivers have been doing this for years.
Bennett
Oct 21 2008, 18:02
Originally posted by otoelpiloto
alonso factor
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zjsw-XRAI
Hilarious!
Dooly Tilly
Oct 21 2008, 18:26
Originally posted by Maximus
No need 2nd place is worth 8 points, do the math.
Oh yeah, fair enough. Pretend Hamilton is in 7th then.
Originally posted by Buttoneer
I think Alonso will go to the ghetto of Sao Paulo and find a hitman willing to take out Hamilton with a high powered rifle as he takes off from the startline.
If I were Hamilton, I'd accidentally wear Heikki's helmet.
Probably Alonso will hire you. To clean his a...
Originally posted by Orin
Not a very balanced post. You forgive Alonso pushing Hamilton off track at Spa (and ignore his brake tests of several drivers) and then produce this list of Hamilton's unsportsmanship:-
(1) Hamilton rammed Alonso early this season in Bahrain?
Unsportingly rammed? Or a mistake which cost Hamilton dear?
(2) innecessarily chopped in front of him in the straight at Monza
So Alonso pushing Hamilton off the track at Spa is forgiven, but Hamilton pushing Alonso to the edge of the track at Monza is unsporting?
(3) unlapped himself in the last lap at Japan.
So Hamilton is not allowed to unlap himself? Brundle pointed out that Hamilton unlapped himself so that he'd be moved up the order if any driver ahead of him was subsequently penalised (there's also the possibility of last lap retirements) - drivers have been doing this for years.
Pathetic. Your neurone is exploding.
noikeee
Oct 21 2008, 18:54
I can't see anything wrong with Orin's reasoning.
Slowinfastout
Oct 21 2008, 19:02
The championship is reaching its climax, so its only normal for the fanboyism to follow the trend..
Andromeda
Oct 21 2008, 19:05
I can't see Alonso taking Hamilton out even if they hate each other alot. Alonso is aware of the consequences if he attempts to do that so I give Alonso alot of credit above Hamilton to do that smart thing and just focus on getting as many points as possible for the final race.
But it would be ironic to see Alonso take Massa out accidentally in Brazil. Keep your friends close and your enemies closer
MichaelPM
Oct 21 2008, 19:07
Originally posted by Mika Mika
Why would Alonso do that - he'd loose his superlicence.
Did Senna lose his after running Prost off the road and thereby winning the WDC that year?
Even if Alonso did do it he wouldnt be as bad a Senna doing it to gain a title.
otoelpiloto
Oct 21 2008, 19:10
Ferrim
Oct 21 2008, 20:08
Originally posted by Smudger
Can anyone show any evidence that Alonso (or anyone else on the grid) has shown bad sportsmanship - as opposed to daft, ungainly or just poor driving - at any time, let alone signs of being a homicidal maniac?
Because an F1 driver punting another one on purpose at speed would be homicidal, and quite likely lose more than a superlicence.
A superlicence is not exactly what Senna lost when he punted another driver on purpose at speed. I don't remember him losing anything actually.
molive
Oct 21 2008, 20:13
If Alonso actually wants a Ferrari drive in 2010 he must consider taking Hamilton out.
Seriously, no, he wont do anything out of the rules, imho.
SevenTwoSeven
Oct 21 2008, 20:21
'The Alonso Factor in Brazil'
Will Simon Cowell and Louis Walsh be presenting this Spanish themed talent fest?
wewantourdarbyback
Oct 21 2008, 20:26
Originally posted by SevenTwoSeven
'The Alonso Factor in Brazil'
Will Simon Cowell and Louis Walsh be presenting this Spanish themed talent fest?
I thought it would be more along the lines of
'The Alonso Factor'
Contestants try to answer questions in this quiz show while Fernando Alonso tries to put them off
Kenaltgr
Oct 21 2008, 20:27
Originally posted by MichaelPM
Did Senna lose his after running Prost off the road and thereby winning the WDC that year?
Even if Alonso did do it he wouldnt be as bad a Senna doing it to gain a title.
No but Prost set the precedent when he didn't lose his license after taking Senna out in 1989.
wrighty
Oct 21 2008, 20:54
Originally posted by Buttoneer
No, crapped-on factor.
very very good
but no, i dont expect alonso to do anything particularly childish during the GP....

Spanish sense of humour.
Ricardo F1
Oct 21 2008, 21:13
Originally posted by MichaelPM
Did Senna lose his after running Prost off the road and thereby winning the WDC that year?
Even if Alonso did do it he wouldnt be as bad a Senna doing it to gain a title.
Or Prost.
airwise
Oct 21 2008, 21:14
Whatever happens it can't be as bad as the Alonso factor on Atlas.
Buttoneer
Oct 21 2008, 21:38
Originally posted by prxty
Probably Alonso will hire you. To clean his a...
...rmour piercing bullets?
wrighty
Oct 21 2008, 21:41
Originally posted by Ricardo F1
Or Prost.
can you imagine the reaction if Hamilton locked wheels with Massa and trailed him off the road (as Alain did) or indeed nailed Massa into turn 1 (as Senna did)......we wouldn't be able to get on here this side of xmas
I do not think anyone other than Kimi would move over to allow Massa win a WDC. I do not think Alonso would deliberately punt Tim out of the race but I doubt he would do anything to avoid a clash if Tim produced a Japan-style stunt in his proximity.
Tenmantaylor
Oct 21 2008, 21:57
Originally posted by otoelpiloto
alonso factor
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=J-zjsw-XRAI
Lol I used to do this to schumacher in GP2 at brazil.
WHEN I WAS 13
aditya-now
Oct 21 2008, 22:06
Andromeda
Oct 21 2008, 22:10
Don't get me wrong Hamilton is a great racer but I'd be more worried about The Hamilton Factor. He attempts a dangerous pass at first/second turn and ends up taking half of the grid out including his team mate, Alonso and both Ferraris
I think Alonso is more sensible and intelligent that most of his fans to do such a horrible stuff. In my heart i believe that if he could undo the damage he did to his reputation last year he would grab the opportunity. Make no mistake about it, he is an excellent driver with an eye for ferari, but who can guarantee that they will always be on top? Such a behaviour would not enhance your reputation among the teams in the long term, but maybe would generate some hysteria in spain. It is my believe that his behaviour last year by being a non-team player cost him a drive next year in ferari.
Nathan
Oct 21 2008, 23:12
Too many Alonso fans to get him banned. Schumacher did it, what happened? Nothing. Same with Prost and Senna. If Sutil did it, then probably yes. Besides it would win the title for Ferrari, what would the FIA do to that!
F-1 for me is drama. I don't like Hamilton. I'd love to see this happen.
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