Neither. He will run his own race.

Macca fans logic:

DC deliberately slows down on the racing line and takes out MSC to help Mika = Nothing wrong there, it was just an accident.

If Kimi/Alonso rammed or brake tested Hamilton while being lapped = BAN THEM FOR LIFE!

As unsporting as this may sound it would be fair for Kimi or Alonso to do it to Lewis as he has already done that to them this season.

Lewis rammed Alonso twice in Bahrain.
Lewis deliberately chose to take out Kimi at Canada, he was going to crash into Kubica and there was not enough time to avoid them so he chose to go for his WDC rival at that time. He also ruined his race in Fuji and cheated him at Spa, if it wasn't for that illegal overtake Kimi would have kept him behind the rest of the race.

That's 3 races Lewis ruined for Kimi so it would be fair if he did the same to him and even then he'd still be in debt!

But anyway none of this is going to happen, Lewis' engine will blow up and everyone will be happy.

Kimi crashed out, illegal overtake, pah, what BS.

I'm amazed once again by the maturity of the people on this board? how old are most of you wanting a driver to be driven off the road and to be pleaed with it?

I agree with Canada and somewhat Japan but Kimi ruined his own race in Spa. We know Ferrari has terrible grip in the rain and Hamilton was sailing infront of Raikkonen gaining a lead at the time Raikkonen decided to park his car into the wall. Pressure might've played a part in this and even if Lewis remained behind Raikkonen there is no sure way to know weither Raikkonen would've crashed or not himself but if his Spa crash was caused by pressure then most likely yes.

I'm amazed by the double standards of the Macca fans too.

DC "helps" Mika = Good
IF Alonso "helps" Massa = BAD

The problem is you are dealing in BS and personal opinion and not facts, if you want to bring up some facts that DC took MS out deliberately then feel free to share it until then you're talking nonsense.

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i'd recommend you ask your doctor to review your medication and your psychiatric support structure...you appear to be suffering from delusions of a hallucinatory nature

1- Alonso won't do that, he's a sportman and he know the roles can be reversed in the near future, so he won't risk anything for that.

2- Hamilton can afford to finish behind both Ferraris, Alonso and his teammate and still win the championship.

3- In any case this stupidness happens, Mclaren can still send Kova to crash Massa while being lapped (do a DC at Spa 98).

Massa letting Kimi past last year cost Alonso the WDC, even so I think he will let Massa by if it secures the WDC for Massa. Only if he knows about such a situation ofcourse, the team wont want to tell him but I cant see them lying to him if he asks for updates on someones position.

DC slowed on the racing line yes, but he slowed about 5 seconds before Schumi his him. Far as I can see that was Schumachers fault.

I'm not a Mclaren fan but you obviously have a chip on your shoulder, what was your view of 94/97 in this case?

You know, no offence, McM/LH are racing in Brazil... Felipinho Massa is a Brazilian driver... Interlagos is the last and most decisive GP of this season. There is only one reason on earth why the Hamiltonistas would involve Alonso is yet another conspiracy against LH: You do not trust Lewis Hamilton's driving.

His name is Lewis If Alonso would punt Hamilton AtlasF1 server would crash

I'm sorry, but you really have that back to front! None of you're so called Hamiltonistas are saying Alonso is going to punt anyone off, its some of your gang with some demented ferrari fan boys that are saying this, maybe you should have a word with them instead of going off half-cock.

Didn't Michael actually say years later that he no longer believed that DC had done it deliberately?



People have such short memories

Actually I think the thread started because of something Alonso said. And sane McLaren fans have adequately put forth the fact this concept is ridiculous.

Alonso is not going to do anything unsportsmanlike... anyway did Senna, Prost or Schumacher get their licenses away for crashing into rivals?

Alonso has never deliberately crashed into anyone, never voluntarily given up places, and I can't see him starting now.

Stepping back from the aggro on this thread; I personally can't somehow imagine Hamilton (nor his PR machine) being satisfied with winning the championship by finishing 4th or 5th in Brazil.
It looks like being an intriguing and exciting scenario, for once

Why do you say that? Ferrari's switch didn't affect Alonso's finishing position and Lewis was ahead of Fernando on the WDC table.

OMG!!

the switch gave kimi teh extra 2 points he needed to leapfrog alonso i think

i think it would be pretty bad if massa requires help from alonso, fia and kimi (kimi is fair enough tho) to win the wdc :/

Says who? Have yous een how much carnage DC has done this year and no threat to his superlicense whatsoever.

Alonso could safely crash into lewis and noting would be done and the alonso bashers would have a field day saying I TOLD YOU SO!!

However, alonso hasnt crashed into anyone lately and i dont think hell lower his standards to such levels just to prevent lewis from winning the wdc. After all, lewis is quite capable of crashing out on his own

If he deliberately crashed into Spam (especially after his i'm gonna help Massa comments) and they could prove it the FIA would crucify him.

I agree though he's not that stupid.

And Hamilton, who ended on equal points to Alonso with better tie-breakers.

Exactly, Alonso wouldn't have been chapion had Massa won the race.

Also, had the race had 3 extra laps, Hamilton would have overtaken both BMW's and would have taken the WDC, as he was 2-3 secs per lap faster.

But in F1 there are no if's. And as I said, if Alonso is 2nd, Massa 3rd and Hamilton out of the race, he won't let him go. His superlicence would be in serious danger.

"Superlicense withdrawn for getting overtaken by a Ferrari while driving a Renault".

I think he hates McLaren and is jealous of Hamilton.

I think he wouldn't let him go just ebcause he'd rather finish 2nd himself even if that means Hamilton wins. I think Fernando is too much of a competitor to give anything away to anyone - even his arch rival's main opposition.

How did this work again?

Surely if Massa didn't let Kimi through, then Alonso and Hamilton would still have the same points?

Anyhow, I very much doubt Alonso would go so low as to give away a position and points for his team just in 'spite'.

I know, we all have this Brits envy thing.

You are full of it.

And you brought racism and insults into the conversation because?...

Hungary 07, Nürburgring braketesting DC.

Why would his superlincence be in danger ? all you guys keep saying that he would lose his SL if he does something to Hamilton , do you guys work for the FIA by any chance ? How would you know ? , as far as i know , no one has ever lose their SL , especially for something like that ( ie. Senna, MS ) , maybe a 2 or 3 races ban or a financial punisment , but lose his SL ???

Isn't it arrogant to think he will be anywhere near Lewis or Massa? That long hill will mean trouble for Renault.

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Now, this is funny..

Interesting that you state DC slowed just 5 seconds before he was hit and yet you state in was MS's fault, that seems contradictory to me.

Thats was a life threatning crash and I'm not suprised MS was so pissed but who's fault was it? MS was racing flat out and in the lead, how could it be his fault? DC should have been aware of his aproach unless you directly blame DC's team for not informing him of the potential situation - I have always wondered if they did or didn't - was it intended to just balk MS for a bit and went very wrong?

I would be interested in your reasoning why the leader of a race is at fault for going too fast compared to a being lapped driver going slowly on the racing line - should be interesting reading.

..this is the Atlas F1 Racing Comments Forum

DC sees Schumi coming and slows to let him past, how is this hard for you to understand my theory?

MS didn't pay attention and rammed him, never mind DC causing a life threatening situation MS was off his head if he thought that DC tried to kill him. If it had been anyone other than a red car in that situation it would have been blamed on the following car.

How old were you in 1998?

Try 11 years old.

shhh ;) Its The Second Coming we're talking about. If alonso, who is jealous because hes a two times world champ vs lewis zero times world champion and zero times ounds much cooler, crashes into lewis taking away fernandos superlicense isnt enough punishment. The lewis fanboys also want to see the spaniard boiled in hot oil in a public display, disembowled and his head on a stake at the entrance of the paragon of losing, the mclaren hq



You clearly havent seen the race. DC saw shumi coming and decided to stay ahead of him for 2 more 2 minute plus laps. Thats 4 minutes delay. THEN suddenly dc moved over in a very dangerous place where nobody would have done that. Shumi had every reason to be so mad. Your explanation doesnt make much sense.

equality, I have seen the race. The visibility was so bad that DC had trouble spotting Michael in his rear mirrows.

In any case, the reaction of Schumi was as much out of place as Senna´s reaction to Irvine in Suzuka 1993. Even if it was "justified", they should not have shown such weakness in their reaction, great champions as they were.

So Alonso, by the same token, should never show any weakness towards Lewis, isn´t that so?

Or are they all, after all, human like you and me? Yep, they are.
So anything is possible, even the odd "Alonso factor" in the next race.

Although I believe it will be

1.Massa
2.Raikkonen
3.Hamilton
4.Alonso
5.Trulli
6.Heidfeld
7.Vettel
8.Kubica

with everyone laudating Hamilton afterwards on a measured, champion-worthy drive.

You are always as good as your last race. So the many mistakes of Lewis in 2008 will be quickly forgotten by most.

No matter what Alonso does, his superlicence will never be in danger. He is simply too valuable for F1, Spanish markets and sponsors are important for F1 and... Bernie. It's impossible to ban Alonso from F1.

If he deliberately rams Hamilton (unlikely), "at best" he will get a fine.

Alonso never was that stupid or weak, and whatever he won in his life he did as a great sportsman.

I believe that hysteria from some is inevitably connected with the fear of fragile psyche of Lewis who is gonna be the biggest threat for his own attempt of sealing the title.

Now imagine what will happen to this board if he makes stupid mistake and doesn't win WDC... again!

Especially considering he's probably the most complete driver in F1.

Heck, knowing Max, he'll probably give Nando a reward!!!!!!!!!

Right.

Please check the facts before you post.