Well I heard him say that, I watched it again last night (hoping the pain is going to be healed this weekend ), he tracks FA to the inside, then dives to the outside as Fernando brakes. Well if he wasn't challenging he'd have stayed on the normal line on the outside, not followed him to the inside. Fernando only barely made the corner himself, so he couldn't have braked any later. So I think Hammy's memory was playing tricks on that one, though when FA braked I daresay he had to dive right to avoid him, tucked right up with no air on his front wing.

I think actually drivers are often not really aware of what's happened as it goes off, just reacting in real time while we play it over and over one frame at a time. Not sure they even bother watching it afterwards either, probably not that interesting after actually doing it.

Time was not suspended at the Italian Gp, neither was it at the German GP. Heikki showed his worth right there, I think.

weather he felt the pressure is to a certain extent iirelivent, that wasnt what put him out :\

Lewis said he felt pressure, whether that pressure resulted into something leaves the beholder to decide. Some do, some does not.

The desperate attempts to pin Lewis on the gearbox failure in Brasil last year are turning desperate. Just give it a rest will you

Ah the 2 part of your post hadn't arrived when I replied. I agree. So now I really don't understand what you were gloating about with his quote. 22 years old defending a lead in the wdc, of course he felt pressure. Still does at 23, and Massa, whatever words they're using to prepare themselves.

I don't know about time suspended, but it certainly feels like your watching slow motion when your on board with heikki. It really frustrates me because there seems to be no answer to his slugness. And I dont buy the 'weaker strategy' bollox.

i guess he cant drive the car in the way it needs tobe to get whatever lewis gets out of it, atleast consistanly

I voted for Hamilton. I want to see Ferrari losing.

So c'mon Lewis, u can do it...

It's totally false. Watch the incident again. I don't know why Lewis didn't tell how it really was, did he do it on purpose (to taunt Alonso?) or maybe he simply didn't remember the incident clearly enough?



I didn't use a single word where I claimed it was Hamilton's fault. The situation still isn't perfectly clear for me so far.



I just wanted to point the fact it's the first time he said the pressure got to him last year and he reacted to it. Earlier he didn't want to admit it and some fanboys claimed he like nobody else - he doesn't feel pressure but everyone else does which is BS.

It's interesting in light of the quote below from Haug. After all - Haug has the benefit of telemetry. Of course he's probably lying and it's all a conspiracy....

And that Haug's quote proves what exactly? I think you missread what we are discussing about.

I was refering to Lewis' going off the track at the start of Brazilian GP last year and not his problem with gearbox. And bond claims Lewis went off because it was Alonso who forced him to do that because he braked too early while it's not true because Lewis had inside line and just decided to attack Alonso while could trail him in 4th place. Even undersquare who always has excuses for Hamitlon's mistakes admits Lewis didn't describe the situation how it really was (probably because he simply didn't remember it clearly enough).

Sometimes I have to counter posts from members who are not content to support their own driver in a positive way, but seem to think inventing and exaggerating criticisms of competing drivers somehow makes their guy better .

I should have put there after claiming you always look for Lewis' mistakes excuses.

OK

Hmmmm.

You think Raikkonen takes drugs and then think Massa has matured?

The car clearly suites Massa more than Raikkonen, especially in the mid-season. In the last 2 races, Raikkonen has been getting on top of the car.

Schumacher substantiated this in his recent BBC interview.

It's sort of flattering to Raikkonen and not very complementary to Massa, that if he's going slower than Massa, he must be on drugs.

The thing is that Massa always had pace, but lacked consistency. We could see his pace relative to M. Schumacher in 2006. It was only a matter of time before he ironed out his consistency. He's giving Kimi a very good run in that Kimi has to have everything right to be consistently in front of Massa.

Well those two races (as well as most others this season, why did you single them out?) showed that he isn't in the same class as Hamilton.

The only time this season were he truly looked able of fighting Lewis was Silverstone practice.

The question is, can he improve and get there or will he stay a level below drivers of Lewis' calibre through is career? Historically the chance for the former is small, but still it exists.

That's what I meant with "time will tell".

As to passing prior tests, what about moving wings (flexiwings) that pass initial tests? Same for moving floorboards? Those were Ferrari developments and were banned as they were discovered and the inspections tests adjusted accordingly.

As to Montoya's penalty, I was not at all surprised by it. He strong armed his way through and not tidily. It was all so unnecessary really. But I guess you're in favour of Montoya and not Schumacher. This will tint your lens a little.

POV's can develop when looking only in one direction.

you are perhaps confusing Indy03 with Malaysia02.. In Malaysia Shumi crashed into Montoya's sidepod..
BTW, I was just making a point that unjust penalties have been handed in the past and that this isn't about Ferrari or Lewis.. Its the same as when a referee makes a bad call and pulls a red car or annuls a goal for being off-side when it wasn't.

Massa takes back the lead in our poll.

Mate this just isn't factually true. You are making a judgement I presume off one camera angle and yet those who have seen the other camera angles and pictures from journo's trackside clearly show that Montoya unfairly sueezed MS onto the curbs and created the contact - even Montoya himself was exclaiming "I gave him room, I gave him room" while serving his drive through obviously not realising he didn't.

If you feel the need to argue I will find the pictures for you but I suggest you look carefully at the Montoya incar at the start and notice when he turns in that MS's front spoiler is just in view still ahead of Montoya's front tyre.

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=IJJXIgnjug0&feature=related

We have to start a campaign to get Montoya back to F1, surely Honda want him.

177 Vs 177 , yeah, quite a lead.

Massa cut the chicane.

looks like a very even split between the fans then. here's to a great, fair, and safe finale to a great season. either protagonist will make a worthy wdc imo.

I have to say I'm really keen to see Felipe Massa win the title this weekend.

The odds are against him with Hamilton only having to finish 5th or better, but I'd love to see Felipe win the race and the championship on home turf.

He's got a new engine this weekend compared to Hamilton's 'race 2' power unit, so who knows, will we see a Mercedes go boom when the pressure is on?

That said, we've seen Ferrari power plants lunch themselves throughout the year, race 2 or 1 so who knows!

I just want to see a good race with real battles going on up and down the grid - but Massa scooping the title to the acclamation of his home fans!!

It would the best if there was no difference between them in points and finishing positions so virtually who would finish Brazil race higher would become WDC. That would be something!

Montoya gave MS plenty of room, it is not fair to penalize a driver for attempting to overtake a car into T1.. MS could have easily made the corner but you can clearly see that he oversteered into Montoya who was at the time already infront of Michael . I've seen that video plenty of times plus the race live.

Hamilton's engine will not last I am afraid.. I don't think he's had any engine failures from a race in two years.. its about time I think..

Hamilton had best reliability from all drivers on the grid in last 2 years. Sooner or later it will balance out.