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Wout
I'm not one to cry 'conspiracy' all the time, but I was pretty surprised when Hamilton was punished for his first corner incident in Japan. So you can imagine that I was expecting the stewards to look into the Trulli/Bourdais incident. But nothing happened.

According to the FIA, Hamilton was punished because he braked too late, dived to the inside of the corner and pushed other cars to the outside and off the track. This warranted a drive-through penalty.

This race I saw Trulli brake late into the first corner, take the inside line, push Bourdais to the outside (it even seemed they slightly touched), and force him onto the grass. And his penalty? none.

Seemed like pretty much identical incidents to me. I really hope the FIA will appoint a standard group of stewards for all races next year.
supasd
Trulli squeezed through Bourdais and Bourdais was definitely too soft.
defend harder, as Trulli does usually Mr.French.
Slowinfastout
I was expecting it to be investigated at least, pretty clear Bourdais had nowhere to go. I'm not all for penalties but it is inconsistent with Japan first corner decision, totally.
Imperial
Your last sentence is what it boils down to mate.

Different stewards at different races, all with different levels of experience (usually not much) and all with differing viewpoints on incidents.

This all boils down to bullsh1t.
Ross Stonefeld
And slightly different incidents too. But you guys enjoy your evenign.
rhm
There are rules. The rules are very ambigous as we know. They are as judged by different people at different races and to add to that, they take no notice of the legal concept of precedent.

But more than all that - most 'incidents' are never investigated. Doesn't matter what the rules are if you don't investigate and it's completely at the discretion of the race stewards which incidents they investigate.

The Bourdais/Trulli 1st corner incident was not investigated during the race as far as I could see. It's possible it could be investigated after and a fine handed out.
Slowinfastout
Originally posted by Ross Stonefeld
And slightly different incidents too. But you guys enjoy your evenign.


You could elaborate a little it wouldn't hurt ya..
Clatter
Probably wasnt investigated because they were not racing at the front, that frequently seems to be the way.
Rinehart
Originally posted by Wout
I'm not one to cry 'conspiracy' all the time, but I was pretty surprised when Hamilton was punished for his first corner incident in Japan. So you can imagine that I was expecting the stewards to look into the Trulli/Bourdais incident. But nothing happened.

According to the FIA, Hamilton was punished because he braked too late, dived to the inside of the corner and pushed other cars to the outside and off the track. This warranted a drive-through penalty.

This race I saw Trulli brake late into the first corner, take the inside line, push Bourdais to the outside (it even seemed they slightly touched), and force him onto the grass. And his penalty? none.

Seemed like pretty much identical incidents to me. I really hope the FIA will appoint a standard group of stewards for all races next year.


I simply accept that the Championship was (not for the first time) engineered to be close. Good for TV ratings. Good for F1 income. It explains most things, such as the inconsistency of the rulings.
MyNameIsNigel
Originally posted by Wout
I'm not one to cry 'conspiracy' all the time, but I was pretty surprised when Hamilton was punished for his first corner incident in Japan. So you can imagine that I was expecting the stewards to look into the Trulli/Bourdais incident. But nothing happened.

According to the FIA, Hamilton was punished because he braked too late, dived to the inside of the corner and pushed other cars to the outside and off the track. This warranted a drive-through penalty.

This race I saw Trulli brake late into the first corner, take the inside line, push Bourdais to the outside (it even seemed they slightly touched), and force him onto the grass. And his penalty? none.

Seemed like pretty much identical incidents to me. I really hope the FIA will appoint a standard group of stewards for all races next year.


True. Other than the fact that the incident did not happen just after the race start, it also seems to me that Trulli was quite over optimistic with his move. Trulli was not punished because he is not Hamilton and because Bourdais is not Raikkonen, that's as simple as that.

I don't know what Bourdais had to say about this incident, but he must be wondering whether the stewards have been particularly fair with him this season rolleyes.gif
BiH
I was surprised too there was atleast an investigation since he pushed him off and bourdais has nowhere to go.
lokiman
I was surprised that there was not, at least, an investigation. It looked to me as though Trulli made an overly-optimistic move down the inside, off the dry line, and just didn't have the grip to do anything other than push Bourdais off track.
Hippo
Originally posted by Wout
So you can imagine that I was expecting the stewards to look into the Trulli/Bourdais incident. But nothing happened.

Thank god they didn't. We know the consistency is really bad in their decisions. But first of all they really need to stop investigating stuff that is not worth investigating at all! They did right today. Hope they'll do right for every future race too.

We do not need a wrong decision for every event that has been wrongly penalized in the past.
wingwalker
Originally posted by supasd
Trulli squeezed through Bourdais and Bourdais was definitely too soft.
defend harder, as Trulli does usually Mr.French.



"defending harder" would probably ended the race for both of them.
Phucaigh
It was no big deal. Bourdais continued, it was better than what happened in the previous race.
jk
Well, Hamilton ran off the road at the end. Trulli stayed on the track.
Sure it was naughty. But to me it looked much like Montoya's pass on Schumacher, which was hailed as great.
se7en_24
Why wasn't Rosberg investigated for turning DC round and ending his race?
Smudger
Racing incident.
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