HAMILTON'S NOT THE LIGHTEST!!!!!!!

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Crazy, eh?

Great lap by Jamilton!

Ja! Ja! Ja!

Clearly that's not what i said, because we all know that the Ferrari trolls moan all day that Kov gets the heavier strategies.

It has nothing to do with Lewis and all with all the propaganda thats spewed about him and all the junk his haters try to spin to explain why hes beating Kov.

Yep, bond. Your "photo collections" always very appreciated, especially since I cancelled my autosport.com subscription.

Hi-res is

I've said it before. If the driver doesn't like the way he's being treated he can always leave.

/Ron Dennis voice

YEAA LEWIS!!

/Ron Dennis voice

+1

Pos Driver Weight (kg)
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 660.5
2. Vettel Red Bull-Renault 651.0
3. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 657.5
4. Webber Red Bull-Renault 654.5
5. Barrichello Brawn-Mercedes 655.5
6. Alonso Renault 658.0
7. Glock Toyota 660.5
8. Heidfeld BMW-Sauber 650.0
9. Kubica BMW-Sauber 664.0
10. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 664.5
11. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 680.7
12. Button Brawn-Mercedes 683.0
13. Raikkonen Ferrari 680.5
14. Buemi Toro Rosso-Ferrari 678.0
15. Trulli Toyota 690.9
16. Sutil Force India-Mercedes 693.0
17. Alguersuari Toro Rosso-Ferrari 683.5
18. Fisichella Ferrari 678.5
19. Grosjean Renault 683.0
20. Liuzzi Force India-Mercedes 656.0

Today Lewis proved me that i had every right to laugh at Kova when he says he feels he's strong as hami.

Thank You Rubens. Oh, these free agents

Kovi did use hard tyres at his first attempt, though.

amazing hami, its yours to loose. Kova is so fukcing bad. Im sorry, but get rid of him right away!!. Lets get RAI, but please not his extraordinary stupid fanboys. If he comes we need two threads, one for mclaren fans and one where kimis fanboys can defend him, they have such truely amazing logic many of them,

True, but his time was SO slow, though. Like, very very slow.

He admitted he made a couple of mistakes. Without those, he would have been in front of the Beemers, I think.

Lets hope Lewis gets a good start tomorrow

"I don't even know what our strategy is. I haven't asked about the fuel load but obviously we had at least some more fuel onboard [in Q3] than in Q2."

Slightly ridiculous not to know how much fuel you're driving around with. However, ties in nicely with the idea of the driver just being there to execute what the engineering brain trust has deemed the best plan of action.

I reckon this is the end of the road for Heikki. Who do you guys think is better for the seat next year, Kimi or Nico?

Kimi.

once again my predictions are bang on

It's tough but maybe raikonen might be better, because for all we know nico can be the same as kov

Kimi, no doubt ... Is Nico really that good, or is his teammate maybe that bad?

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I've woken up to find Lewis on top. Now I know how Nicole feels!!

LOL , Thats brilliant

The Diffuser of Justice 2009 Final Version really puts the car on fire.

Great pics

Great Pic! Lewis, get a good start and the race should be yours!

Well done Lewis. Even Beyonce was taken in although Nicole looks worried

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Awesome - hes not light by any means - as long as he beats Vettel to turn 1.. lets the good times roll.

HK should retire immediately.
such a waste of a seat.

lewis is not light. he's heaviest amongst the favourites.

lol Lewis looks like a fanboy here.


This type of overly sexed up popstar look (Beyonce has), is what I would have hated if Nicole had adopted while supporting Lewis

Agreed Jay. Was worried after Friday, but Lewis (and McLaren) really turned things round on Saturday. Front row, heavy car, KERS for the start, good times! Fingers crossed for the race.

Contrast that with LH, he knew his strategy and probably Heikki's as well.

This is not good for Heikki and I am beginning to really think he is gone from Mclaren.
I hope the team or Mercedes would be able to assist him in getting a drive come next year. I like the guy but this is a competition that leaves little room for too much tolerance.

I think Kov will most likely go to Toyota, they haven't renewed Trulli's contract and I think Kov can really resurrect his career there.

It's funny reading these boards, the way Lewis is assumed to "probably" know everything and be the fastest by default. When Lewis messes up it's excused as "trying too hard, he's a racer you know", while Heikki gets zero tolerance for mistakes and excuses. Take something like China for example, Lewis was all over the place and spinning off the track and lost to Heikki, while Heikki kept it mostly on the road without much hassle, and finished ahead of his team-mate, eventhough he started 3 places behind him. Oddly I seem to recall Lewis mostly just getting praises for "being a racer", while Heikki's race was deemed "boring". Had it been the other way around in that race, I hazard a guess Lewis would've been praised for driving smartly and preserving his tyres, while Heikki would've been bashed mercilessly for destroying his tyres and spinning like a ballerina. This same mentality is clear in each and every race commentary here. I'm sure most people reading the comments can see it, but I wonder if the people writing those opinions are aware of it themselves.

I do see your point.. and I think Heikki should be given a little more of a break

BUT

I also believe, if he performed better when he does get the chance, people would be more inclined to give him a break..

Sure, there are tons of fanboys for Lewis here... but his ability and what he delivers helps his cause a whole lot.

J

I am not a "fanboy" but rather objective. I actually support the idea that the team retains Heikki and have stated this in several contributions on the subject. My main reasons are that he is a good team player and a good albeit unlucky driver and more importantly I believe that the team need to maintain stability in view of several issues the team has had to contend with in the last couple of years up unto the "liegate" affair and the subsequent departure of Ron D and Ryan.

My comment that you quoted was a persnal analysis of Heikki's statement. I know that LH knew about his strategy because of the his comments during the post qualifying interview and it is reasonable for him to be aware that his team mate would be stopping a lap after him. Mind you Heikki was a potential threat to him as he had shown flashes of speed during the weekend.

I suggest you read my comment again and I am sure you will realise it was an opinion on what had trasnpired and not a wish.

It is no use being a blind fan or fanboy as you people term it. As a fan you need to have some degree of objectivity and I am sure there are fans who do have that. On the other side, there are brainless haters who read a comment and imagine something else and respond stupidly.

Well it's not just about one weekend, it's reputations that each of them build up over time. It's been said a million times that everyone likes Kovy but he can't race, the odd good result doesn't change that, and you've picked China 09 from a very small sample. Lewis can race, the odd bad one doesn't change that either.


Anyway it looks like Kovy knows he's out and his head's dropped a little this race, but he was unlucky with the red flag, let's hope he can make up some places at the start.

Hekki's scored points in the last 5 races, despite having older aero components a lot of the time. Give respect where it's due, because McLaren would be nowhere in the WCC with Lewis' ruthless 'I'm not fighting for the championship' approach.

False. It was only Nürburgring.

What happened last year?

From Hungary:
"21 min: Lewis Hamilton is back on track in the McLaren. He is testing another revised front wing this morning, which only arrived from the factory overnight."

From Valencia:
"Lewis Hamilton is using a short wheelbase version of the MP4/24 at Valencia this weekend. Team mate Heikki Kovalainen’s MP4/24 has the original wheelbase length."

But thanks for picking out a trivial issue and ignoring the original point: Heikki's contribution to the WCC points, which is almost the same as Lewis'

It's a bit sad that people like yourself have to keep repeating this on here, you'd think that people would be gettin gthe message by now

Hekki hasn't had the best of luck in his 2 years at Mclaren, but when he's had all of the tools at his disposal he's still failed to deliver. Monza was a prime example of this, he had a great car and the correct strategy, for whatever reasone he couldn't make it work though.

For me, today's race will be critical for him. He has a good amount of fuel on board, a good car and that kers button. If he makes up a few places on merit (either through strategy or on track) then it would be enough to convince me that he has what it takes. If on the other hand he stays where he is, or even goes backwards then I think I'll stop giving him the benefit of the doubt.

They both tested the new wing, they alternate sessions. I can't remember about the SWB chassis, but from memory it was being evaluated for future use, not for that event. You can't just selectively quote bits to suit your agenda.

Those tests have the name back-to-back tests, and every team use that comparison... but if that suit someone conspiracy, why don`t he use it?! Just ignore them.

the short wheel based car was made specifically for Lewis for better weight distrubution as he is heavier than HK, and it turns out that Lewis prefers the longer wheel based version anyway. even without setting up his car in second practice at valencia, Lewis still beat the snot out of HK on race day

Rodrigol

However, with particular reference to the shorter wheelbase car we are running in Valencia, it is simply that Heikki is lighter than Lewis and is consequently able to run the ideal weight distribution around here. Lewis’s shorter-wheelbase car allows him to achieve exactly the same result – this is something that we discussed fully with Heikki ahead of this weekend’s race, and he is perfectly happy with the reasoning behind this decision. Jonathan Neale
( http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2009/08/23/why-...heelbase-mp424/ )

The SWB costs Lewis a win, it was a compromised idea for a better (more forward) weight distribution (planned for Spa), but it had disadvantages (tyre management, worse handling), it would be important only for Lewis, because he has disadvantage with less ballast compared to Heikki.

You're quoting from a Live Text commentary about free practices which not always correct and not relevant to races.

We, who regular in this thread follow much closely the deveklopment of the MP4-24, than you.

They were evaluating newer high d/f front wing long since (from Hungary/Valencia), but it is always dumped for the race.

The SWB car had aero issues, flow to the back wasn't good IIRC.