Yes but there seems to be more duck tape than carbon fibre!

is the rear wing height still illegal?

Very true

No, that is a legal one.

Yup.
As much as I want McLaren to win this season I think this is an awful way to win a Championship. It's entirely conceivable that if the field is as open as it is this year and that no one team dominates early on then starting strong is not important as it once was.

I may be totally unobservant, but I was just looking at the side profile of the Brawn 001 and remembered back to something I read in Racing Line, about how the cooling system was finalised before the drop to 18,000RPM and that would be revised.

Has it been? I don't recall seeing a change in sidepods. The BGP001 pods are massively undercut. I know that McLaren are also housing and cooling KERS, but surely refining the cooling for the lower revs would bring some visible benefit?

They won't have changed something as fundemental as the front wheel track, simply because it produces erroneous data - they would have just stuck those wheel cover sensors on, without making any suspension mods, in my opinion.

Wouldn't they exceed the maximum allowed width? as far as I know, that's an actual aero part that they will run this year.

It is likely they have reduced the car width to accommodate these devices.

i dont understand, isnt this bargeboard layout illegal

So now we know why Dennis moved over: He saw what was coming- A mediocre corporate McLaren without any Newey genes. Just like Williams post Newey, they're destined for some bleak twilight years, fumbling around in an attempt to get back to the front of the grid. Good luck to them.

Woah, unlike Williams, McLaren have millions invested in state of the art technology and have the best facilities as well as minds in the business. As a Ferrari fan, I fear McLaren more than any other team. They'll be back, plus they have Lewis in the cockpit.

Very nice first post

whatever happens in melbourne to mclaren for trying like crazy, i have never seen so many new parts been introduced in 14 days. Hopefully it is enough to get us into top 10 so we can have some batles

Good luck to you during your stay here. I think you're going to need it

In retrospect and in hindsight :-



Mind you, as Femi also pointed out the ace that McLaren holds is the Jeres test !

Regards

Andy

Speaking of femi, does he have any more inside scoops?

I heard he lost his "Mac and Lauren" books, so I don't think we'll be getting more of his inside poops.

motor21.com, Google translated:

It`s business time!

quote myself from the testing thread;

Lets brainstorm some ideas to make the McLaren go faster:

- Masts and Sails
- Barbers razor blades for wing mirrors
- Feathers attached to all body work, to smooth airflow
- An ironing board mounted on the rear diffuser

I wouldn't be surprised if these are already on a list somewhere in their Woking factory.

They're trying -everything-

Golf ball dimples!

nah, that only works if the car is spinning

Being serious for a moment; McLaren look like they're in serious trouble.

However it is a very British trait to smile when you're losing. I can cope with a few seasons of poor performance, it's not something we're unfamiliar with regardless of sporting arena, but I'll say something I'd like to say.

McLaren fans can happily cope with a poor season, yes McLaren have cocked up, yes we have a slow car, HAHA!! it's funny, we'll be so slow we'll be lapped several times by the leaders - we can cope with that and anything rival fans want to say.

Feel free to bare in mind that when we're up we don't gloat, when we're down we don't whine, we just get on with it and support our team through and through.

No-one likes being kicked when they're down, so give us a break yeah? Lets just enjoy the season.

Based on winter testing the dimples would be pretty effective then..

And let's hope some of it actually works.
Good luck to them. If there is any hope for salvaging things, we'll need to see it soon.

Nah with the new scoring system we don't need to see it until Monaco....

Still with over 24 hours left, how aerodynamic is a kitchen sink?

with sculpted sides and inverted v-shape taps, it may be quite effective ;)

New exhaust outlets?

Does the beam-wing now curve over the rear ligth/crash structure.
One piece instead of a separate piece on either side http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires...0/diapo_119.jpg

Yes.

Is that flow viz all over the beam wing?

They probably changed the color so it doesn't look like they hit an Alien somewhere on the track.

might have run out of all the stocks of green so having to revert to blue

He is hiding in other threads!

Nope, I am here; well at work. I sneak in here once in a while.
There was no inside scoop.

Mclaren seem so have overcome the rear tyre wear issues they had but I think at a cost.
Let's wait till Melbourne.

at a cost?
striaghtline speed vs downforce?

I suspect so.

To put it simple (seeing the consistent long stint of Lewis on soft tyres, no drop off), the car is easy on the tyres but slow compared to others.

It's just a guess based on hard tyre stints, the car might have problems to heat up the tyres, the hard compounds.

The MP4-24 has quite big fuel tank and easy on the tyres: one stop strategy seems doable and might be beneficial.

It is just me or is the left exhaust outlet different from right? They also have a new rear wing support.

I heard about this fuel tank and supposedly its considerably bigger than previous seasons.
Could this be another factor as to why they are so slow?

You wont get any wins on a one stopper if you have a slow car. And as far as i know LH has never been one a one stopper in F1. But it would be a great exersize for next year

You can go to a 1 stopper but if you're help up by others plus you're a second off the pace, the front runners will have enough time to make their usual pit stops and still come out ahead.

McLaren are trying everything they can, I guess the car is just fundementally flawed.

Hmmmmm :\

The sidepods and air inlets are big compared to the others, BGP, Ferrari. That's not good for aero efficiency hence speed.

I didn't mean wins, I didn't even mean podiums for the first races, I meant one stopper might give some more points than two stopper. They have to base strategies on the strong points of the 24; big fuel tank + easy on tyres + constant speed long stints = 1 stop strategy.

Where did you get that information about big fuel tank?

I remember thinking that when I first clap eyes on the car. But I presumed an 'update' would fix it.