I like to think of it as the Uberfuser

Uberfuser of Justice?

that is pushing it

The only teams that have been officially challenged for the Melbourne GP are Brawn, Williams and Toyota. If Mclaren have a DD diffuser that isn't officially challenged, does this mean that they can't have points taken off them whatever happens? Any help please?

I believe they could be challenged after the race

I just hope it makes a meaningful impact.

If it passes scrutineering (I should say if it exists first but....) then I believe it would have to be protested by someone. Otherwise I think they wouldn't lose anything; unless Maxxx decides they need a spanking.

The chances of them getting points and not being protested are slim and none....and slim just left the building.

Thank you, much appreciated.

With it passing the Stewards, and they race, wouldn't what would happen now is that FIA would have to tighten rules and then say fix by the time they get to European races

He might be right, but he's a bit of McLaren basher so......

A quite complicated question, if McLaren is really that slow like they said they are and they somehow already have the "diffusor of justice" in their hand, why won't they risk losing the points in the first race by using that diffusor?

If they are really that slow, they could end up without any point in the first race anyway if they don't use their "diffusor of justice". I would certainly risk losing the points by using the "diffusor of justice" unless I know that I can still win races without the "diffusor of justice".

3D Scanning by McLaren Applied Technologies

I love the fact that they're both stood in exactly the same way...big ron must've trained them well!

Ronsee

....Tracy island?

Probably more likely than a new diffuser. Having looked at the pictures from the test it is exactly the same diffuser, you can tell from the residue from the viz flo paint. I guess they must just tape up the holes???

Can that be possible in formula 1, where millions of pounds are spent designing and making these parts? Surely they wouldn't leave a big gap that needs to be duct taped up? Surely, not!

The Uberfuser of Justice is GO

Looks like that is simply where they begin the curve to the verticle end plate

well mclaren is seeking Aerodynamicists/CFD Engineers in the job section

New Mercedes Motorsport website

http://www3.mercedes-benz.com/mbcom_v4/xx/motorsport/en.html

A Job for Femi

I'm wondering, If Mclaren were indeed in Brawn GP'S position and produced such fast times with the same diffuser. Would the stewards had clear them to race? I doubt it!

obviously

Where has Femi gone
He seems to have vanished after making that bold claim on the Mclaren wiping the floor of the opposition at Barcelona.

Helloooooooo, femi

If you look carefully, it seems that the bottom face of the crash structure (wich would be replaced by the second floor of the diffuser) is duct taped.

I am here fed up and have been quite a lot...

Yep, it all looks very provisional, like a kindergarten project. I don`t think anybody expects this to last 300 km of Albert Park.

I wondered about that tape, however I think that it's probably just to protect the crash structure from the jack which will be used a lot to constantly lift it up and move it around as they prepare for the gp.

Oh I hope that McLaren implement the "Uberfuser of Justice" and blitz the field, that would wipe the smiles off of the BGP boys.

Hi Femi Cheer up old chap...just remember

Some things in life are bad,
They can really make you mad,
Other things just make you swear and curse,
When you're chewing life's gristle,
Don't grumble,
Give a whistle
And this'll help things turn out for the best.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the light side of life.
[whistle]

If life seems jolly rotten,
There's something you've forgotten,
And that's to laugh and smile and dance and sing.
When you're feeling in the dumps,
Don't be silly chumps.
Just purse your lips and whistle.
That's the thing.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
[whistle]
Always look on the right side of life,
[whistle]

For life is quite absurd
And death's the final word.
You must always face the curtain with a bow.
Forget about your sin.
Give the audience a grin.
Enjoy it. It's your last chance, anyhow.
So,...

Always look on the bright side of death,
[whistle]
Just before you draw your terminal breath.
[whistle]

Life's a piece of shit,
When you look at it.
Life's a laugh and death's a joke it's true.
You'll see it's all a show.
Keep 'em laughing as you go.
Just remember that the last laugh is on you.
And...

Always look on the bright side of life.
Always look on the right side of life.
[whistle]

That 'blanking plate' is part of the upper diffuser structure. So it's not a blanking plate.

That's what I thought, the diffusor doesn't have the upper element built on to the crash structure.

"There were indications that McLaren may already have done that and the car that was presented to the scrutineers on Thursday was not unlike the three cars that were challenged."


http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21284.html


It's pretty obvious isn't it?

From what I recall from what Scarbs was reported to have said earlier on, that is because the upper deck of the diffuser isn't on the car. There has been a lot of space made in the place where it would be, however, leading to the assumption that its appearance isn't too far away.

You are gonna be disappointed.

Also there appears to be mounting points (Holes) on the so called blanking plate for the upper structure to be attached to it

But for now it's all just conjecture. We don't actually know.
What I can see in that picture is the 'blanking plate' is attached to the crash structure and the top of the diffuser. They've run the car, which means it needs to be strong enough to withstand the forces of a car under high aerodynamic loading, which means it's not just 'tacked on' to fool people.

Unless they really do have another part which bolts right in place to form the upper deck, I can't see anything changing.


As for McLaren not protesting the design, it's been reported on Autosport that BMW already evaluated a design similar to that of the one of the three teams. They're not protesting to get them banned, they're trying to get it clarified. Nobody will race a diffuser like that (other than the three) until it's cut and dried in the courts.

6hrs and counting... then we'll know for sure

There is a special type of tape that RAF aircraft technicians use to make temporary repairs to small cracks that sometimes appear on the wings of the Typhoon Eurofighter fighter jets, those aircraft fly at over 13,00MPH - twice the speed of sound.
I'm not saying that McLaren are using this tape for any reason I'm just illustrating that bonding tape of this kind is more than possible of lasting 300KM at Albert Park and then some!



That being said I really think McLaren have a new diffuser ready to go, why else leave all that space and go for that curved design?

Isn't it strange that there's holes in it if there isn't going to be something on top? Can anyone give me any other reason why there might be ruddy great holes in the diffuser if not to attach something else to it? I can't believe an F1 team would produce something with holes in it if they weren't absolutely essential, so they must have a reason for being there. Any possible thoughts other than an upper deck of a diffuser?

I'm not convinced yet McLaren will come up with a proper and powerful DD diffuser for the Melbourne race. :\

But, I'm sure double-decker diffusers have to come for many teams including McLaren to catch up.

Photographers use Gaffer tape to enhance the cleavage of well endowed ladies.... they stay pert all day! forgive me ladies!

I beg to differ. If McLaren's form is really as bad as they predict it to be then what would they have to lose by running with the diffuser in Melbourne?

Let's be honest - the FIA isn't going to DQ these teams *IF* even if the appeal happens to upheld the protests. After all the scandal of changed race results last season at Spa the FIA isn't going to want to go down that route. If anything they will simply change the rules so the diffusers can no longer be used.

I don't know a lot about aerodynamics but in my mind the holes don't make aero sense. The hole diffuser is littered with them even on the underside, that has to have a negative effect on airflow. Plus, wouldn't the holes be illegal?

That looks like the most plausible explanation dude. The more i look at that diffuser the more it looks to me like the whole central section, including the arch is a temporary veil. Can ya see that the arch is barely touching the central vanes? And those holes. Maybe its gonna look more like the Toyotas diffuser (squarer) with a panel going across where those holes are on the central vanes and then built up to the crash structure? Just my thoughts tho :\

With regards to power I can't be sure, but I can't for the life of me work out why the team would bring a diffuser to the first race that is purely a skeleton for a more advanced design. Why shape your car to fit a Performance Enhancing Component (Ronspeak trademark) onto it, without bolting on the Performance Enhancing Component itself? Unless that plate, and all that cleared up rear bodywork, somehow create more downforce than the design Ferrari has, and McLaren started out with in January, then there has to be something new coming. Maybe they are good for downforce, but I can't see how. I'd need a good few people saying they would to convince me otherwise.

The diffuser photographed http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires.../diapoa_004.jpg has got traces of blue and green flowviz on the right side.
And they did mount that mini-birdcage on the back for a while at Jerez.
Guess that when that photo was taken, they hadn't filled the mounting holes.

Good call, the underside of the diffuser is tinged with green but according to the photo F1-live URL the photograph is from Melbourne?

OMG i think somebody mentioned this in an earlier post but i've just seen it in the jobs section. We're screwed

Aerodynamicists, CFD engineers, model makers and wind tunnel technicians!
How appropriate :\