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Anomnader

Mar 27 2009, 01:52

From the video the covered diffuser is still on

mkay

Mar 27 2009, 01:53

I just saw the diffuser on BBC.

It's still a single-decker. The ''removable'' part is still in place.

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 01:53

The Plate is still on Lewis car on the installation lap. Stuff was being done in the garage though...

mkay

Mar 27 2009, 01:54

Wow. 3 to answer simultaneously. We are surely passionate about this!

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 01:58

Buemi, first flying lap of 2009 1:41.493

Raikonnen 1:32.121

mkay

Mar 27 2009, 02:07

At last, Hamilton out.

Let's see...

Dalek Caan

Mar 27 2009, 02:10

Originally posted by mkay
At last, Hamilton out.

Let's see...

1.32.9

mkay

Mar 27 2009, 02:17

Like the guys at BBC said, McLaren's got some instability in the rear... Hamilton is sliding all over the place and they can't seem to have pace in S1 and S3.

mkay

Mar 27 2009, 02:18

WOW.

Kova, 1:27.9!

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 02:19

The McLaren is flying without new diff

Kov 1:27.982
Rai 1:28:458
But 1:28.641
Mas 1:28.959

Kova looks amazing! There is hope!

Vettel off.

f1rules

Mar 27 2009, 02:20

perhaps kova is using the diff, i dont now. but nice kova were did that come from.

fvck is should be sleeping now, but how can i leave this

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 02:20

This pleases me.

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 02:21

Bar 1:27.743

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 02:23

Originally posted by f1rules
perhaps kova is using the diff, i dont now. but nice kova were did that come from.

fvck is should be sleeping now, but how can i leave this

I'm gonna be up for free practice 2 as well. I'll be dead tommorow. Still it's history.

f1rules

Mar 27 2009, 02:23

yeah me to

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 02:29

RAI 1:26.750 On super-softs
BAR 1:27.743
KOV 1:27.982

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 02:37

So far based on observation I would say that Kimi and Kova, Button and Barachello look very happy and comfortable in their cars. Lewis, Massa, Alonso and Vettel not so confident, a few lock-ups etc a bit ragged. Just based on instinct. Of course ridiculously early days.

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 02:40

Lewis seems right up there on the first two sectors, then loses it a bit in the final sector.

Pleased to see Kova mixing it up with the cars that are supposedly "up front". Only FP1 though...

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 02:54

Was that lap on the harder tyre? Just done a 1.27.4 on about the 3rd lap of a stint, must be hard really.

Would be delighted if Heikki could match Lewis this year.

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 03:00

No doubt about it so far Kova looks very quick even on hards.

1. Rosberg on hards 1:26.687

1.williams hard, Ros
2.williams hard and old, Naka
3.Ferrari super-soft, Rai
4.Brawn ? Bar
5.McLaren hard, Kov
6.Brawn ? But

senna da silva

Mar 27 2009, 03:08

Great time by Heikki!

kids like ash

Mar 27 2009, 03:09

Originally posted by werks prototype
The McLaren is flying without new diff

Kov 1:27.982
Rai 1:28:458
But 1:28.641
Mas 1:28.959

Kova looks amazing! There is hope!

Vettel off.

They were both using the latest diffuser design.

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 03:10

Hopefully Lewis is just having a bit of a problem with set up. Heikki looking good and that position is very positive, only practice yeah yeah but lets face it, with the pre race build up we were getting, it sounded like last would have been an achievement.

Fingers crossed he can keep it up FP2, and Lewis can join him.

Wouldn't mind seeing if The Diffuser has been used at all...

TheSaltire

Mar 27 2009, 03:12

Lewis just doesn't look comfortable in that car. Not sure what fuel loads or new bits are being run. Kova could be a on much different program for today.

All the cars are looking pretty twitchy, especially coming out of Turn 1.

Callisto

Mar 27 2009, 03:14

Originally posted by TheSaltire
Lewis just doesn't look comfortable in that car. Not sure what fuel loads or new bits are being run. Kova could be a on much different program for today.

All the cars are looking pretty twitchy, especially coming out of Turn 1.

hiekki car looked more stable

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 03:14

Originally posted by kids like ash

They were both using the latest diffuser design.

How do you know? I'm watching it live I saw nothing new. Hopefully later, free 3 or even qual. Free 2 would be good but probably not clever.

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 03:17

Definitely. this is something we've seen before. Looked a bit like a fish out of water. But he also 'looked' heavy when carrying the momentum through the corners, the car just changed direction differently to Kova's no 2. Same with Massa and dare I say Alonso, great car control by Alonso though.

trenchcoat

Mar 27 2009, 03:17

Just like I expected - I knew McLaren are a top 5 car. Kovi has the right set up imo and looks great with the car. Over a second quicker than lewis on sector 3 alone. I 'm sure the team have 2 different setups for the cars. It would be great to see both McLarens up there.

raiseyourfistfor

Mar 27 2009, 03:20

will hamilton steal kovalainen's setup this year?

kids like ash

Mar 27 2009, 03:41

Originally posted by werks prototype

How do you know? I'm watching it live I saw nothing new. Hopefully later, free 3 or even qual. Free 2 would be good but probably not clever.

The they showed Lewis touring around on his initial installation lap i had a quick look at the diffuser and it was the brawn esque solution being used.

werks prototype

Mar 27 2009, 03:46

Originally posted by kids like ash

The they showed Lewis touring around on his initial installation lap i had a quick look at the diffuser and it was the brawn esque solution being used.

I saw that, they gave us quite a long slow mo of the rear and it appeared to me to be the same silhouette that we've seen before, as presented to scrutineering, same flap, nothing removed or cut out. Different story regarding the floor of course.

I didn't see the rear of Kova's car no 2 though at any point. I hope this means that there is even more to come.

raiseyourfistfor

Mar 27 2009, 03:59

Hamilton's version of the FA aces?
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/photolarge.php?p...catID=1103-3702

argiriano

Mar 27 2009, 04:58

Kova's rear end was different from Hamilton's. It doesn't have the tunel above the diffuser, and have outlets for the hot air from the exaust on the left side.

http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires...e/diapo_151.jpg
It looks like his car is more stable, and not so fishy at the rear even with less rear wing.

blacksheep79

Mar 27 2009, 05:03

Originally posted by argiriano
Kova's rear end was different from Hamilton's. It doesn't have the tunel above the diffuser, and have outlets for the hot air from the exaust on the left side.

http://premium.f1-live.com/f1/photos-hires...e/diapo_151.jpg
It looks like his car is more stable, and not so fishy at the rear even with less rear wing.

take a look on the diffusor on the left side on the outside

The Big Guns

Mar 27 2009, 05:08

Asymmetrical diffuser and exhausts outlets hmm?

bankoq

Mar 27 2009, 05:15

Originally posted by raiseyourfistfor
Hamilton's version of the FA aces?
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/photolarge.php?p...catID=1103-3702

Nice. I like the idea!

Monad

Mar 27 2009, 05:23

Half an hour ago boxes with new parts came for the cars. So is there any magical part that will make Mclaren fly in the end?

Lazarus II

Mar 27 2009, 05:28

Originally posted by The Big Guns
Asymmetrical diffuser and exhausts outlets hmm?

The exhaust don't look asymmetrical here

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 05:31

Different car.

Apollonius

Mar 27 2009, 05:31

Nice first practice from Kova

Apollonius

Mar 27 2009, 05:43

Originally posted by f1rules
im listening to radio 5 and they are reporting, mclareen mechanics had a huge box and the commentator shouded to them, is that the new diffuser, and they confirmed it was, apparently it was fitted last minute, radio 5 is great

Ermmmmmm....
I was listening to that too, the McLaren boys declined to answer the question according to the presenters. It was said as a joke, nobody confirmed anything

f1rules

Mar 27 2009, 05:49

they told the story twice, the first time they said they confirmed, the sec time they told the story, the commentator said he passed the mclaren trucks and they were uncovering theese big cases, and he asked is that the new diff, and they said what do you think, nevertheless as i understood it, it was new parts, but yes no talk about uber diff

Insane111

Mar 27 2009, 05:51

Lewis looking much quicker...

skid solo

Mar 27 2009, 05:52

Trulli
Button
Hamilton
Sutil
Kovalainen

Car is looking better!

skid solo

Mar 27 2009, 05:55

Trulli leading the way on softs Hamilton was on hard compounds

Minicoop831

Mar 27 2009, 05:55

Definitly better than the first session, but he is still a little shaky on the in car camera

raiseyourfistfor

Mar 27 2009, 06:01

That might be because they have setup the suspension to be very hard

Minicoop831

Mar 27 2009, 06:02

Diffuser is the same as the first session, at least from what I have seen but maybe I'm wrong because I have not seen a slow mo of the rear yet

Minicoop831

Mar 27 2009, 06:08

Does anybody know why bmw is so off the pace?
Sandbagging?

AFCA

Mar 27 2009, 06:09

Originally posted by Minicoop831
Sandbagging?

Yeah that's the main reason they entered Formula 1...

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