QUOTE (potmotr @ May 8 2009, 17:19)

To be honest I cringe a bit when Vettel takes things down market.
I kind of feel he's not being himself and is trying to be funny by cracking rique one liners.
Oh so you know him quite well eh?!
PassWind
May 8 2009, 21:32
QUOTE (potmotr @ May 8 2009, 17:19)

To be honest I cringe a bit when Vettel takes things down market.
I kind of feel he's not being myself and is trying to be funny by cracking risque one liners.
Fixed it for you, Sebastian is a very funny guy, looking at his TV interviews he takes every oportunity to make a joke. I love how he is always himself regardless of the audience.
Oh instead of saying to the reporter there are other much more important days in ones life outside of motorsports he used a wise crack to direct attention to the fact that racing isn't everything. Which just goes to show how agile his mind is, especially in a second language, a remarkable young man.
Vettel is extremely likeable as a personality. As a Webber fan it's hard not to still be happy for his success. His only blemish when I really didn't like him was safety-car-gate Fuji 2007.
Vettel's Friday FP quotes...
Sebastian Vettel - 7th: "A pretty normal Friday except that at some stage we had a problem with the radio and I think I had some Spanish drivers to talking to me!
QUOTE (SchuOz @ May 9 2009, 00:21)

Vettel's Friday FP quotes...
Sebastian Vettel - 7th: "A pretty normal Friday except that at some stage we had a problem with the radio and I think I had some Spanish drivers to talking to me!
Apparently instead of hearing his engineer in his ear, he got a radio message asking a local taxi driver to make a pick-up at Gerona Airport!
potmotr
May 8 2009, 23:48
QUOTE (dank @ May 8 2009, 18:36)

Oh so you know him quite well eh?!
Of course not, but I find all the Kate's Dirty Sister stuff all a bit juvenile really.
No criticism of Vettel himself, I think he's great. Just find those comments all a bit school boy.
potmotr
May 8 2009, 23:55
QUOTE (TheHumanPromise @ May 8 2009, 17:23)

So what you're saying is that he's not naturally funny? How would you know that?
What I'm say is all the constant girl/sec jokes aren't especially funny to me.
Of course neither of us know if he is hillarious or putting it on.
But he's driving a racing car for a living. We're spending Friday night tapping into the internet.
Guess he really does have the last laugh then.
HoldenRT
May 9 2009, 04:51
Vettel practically is still a schoolboy. And it's not just words, he has the name stickered on the car.
HoldenRT
May 9 2009, 05:30
In ref. to results from 3rd practice in Spain, I do not know what to think about it. If this is Seb's way how to keep me in suspence, than he is doing darn good job of it. Right now it doesn't look too good, and my former prediction for race (P5) seems little bit in jeopardy, because I have difficult time to think that they are hiding so well true speed of the car. My only hope is that Seb was trying to test race trim on a full tank, which could be possibility, but not likely.
QUOTE (MiPe @ May 9 2009, 11:51)

In ref. to results from 3rd practice in Spain, I do not know what to think about it. If this is Seb's way how to keep me in suspence, than he is doing darn good job of it. Right now it doesn't look too good, and my former prediction for race (P5) seems little bit in jeopardy, because I have difficult time to think that they are hiding so well true speed of the car. My only hope is that Seb was trying to test race trim on a full tank, which could be possibility, but not likely.
Think you might be reading too much into the last practice session. They shipped over a few more additions to the car over night for the front and rear wings and were most likely using the session to gain data from them. The RB5 is relatively quick in the first two sectors, less so the last one, so that might be their Achilles heel.
HoldenRT
May 9 2009, 13:51
QUOTE (dank @ May 9 2009, 12:04)

Think you might be reading too much into the last practice session. They shipped over a few more additions to the car over night for the front and rear wings and were most likely using the session to gain data from them. The RB5 is relatively quick in the first two sectors, less so the last one, so that might be their Achilles heel.
It was fuel holding them back in that sector. Lots of slow corners.
Some parts of the Monaco package have been introduced in Barcelona already: a new front wing, modified mirror supports and a modified rear wing.
Horner on the development: ''Each race we want to bring something new on the car. The correlation between the windtunnel, simulation and track is working better and better.''
On the hard work in Milton Keynes: ''After the Shanghai 2-1 everyone (in the team) knew that it's worth it. Now it's a different kind of pressure to succeed. Everyone's voluntarily doing more work. We have people that do overtime each week. No one's complaining.''
On the diffuser: ''Brawn GP and Toyota already have very advanced diffusers designs. We're starting from scratch in that respect and therefore we have a greater scrope than the competitors.''
On a future budget cap: ''The less money there is to spend, the better it is for the independent teams. What matters now is innovation. With our car we've demonstrated that we're good in this
On Vettel: ''We're building the team around Vettel. Like Ferrari has done with Schumacher and Renault with Alonso.''
Newey: ''He's incredibly mature for the age he has. You notice it when you talk about the car with im. His feedback isn't that of a 21-year old.''
Alfisti
May 9 2009, 16:03
Kudos tot he egg heads that FINALLY got it right and kept the cars in the garage in Q1 and Q2 rather than waste tyres. They absolutely butchered this in the past and appear to have figured out that if you go P1 with 5 minutes left then 15 cars are not gonna pass you.
this could be bollocks, but vettel says he's stopping on 27.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_me...ference_sat.pdf
Alfisti
May 9 2009, 16:06
QUOTE (Blythy @ May 9 2009, 19:05)

this could be bollocks, but vettel says he's stopping on 27.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_me...ference_sat.pdfHe was pissing about with Button, no way he runs that long.
Both drivers have the same fuel onboard (46.5kg) so should be stopping on lap 18/19.
Interesting to also note is that around 10kg of fuel around the Spanish circuit amounts to just over three-tenths of a second, so in theory Vettel could well have made pole had he taken on the same fuel load in the final round of qualifying as Button did – Vettel was just over a tenth off the pace set by the Brawn car.
Oh and rain is due tomorrow (apparently). I bet Red Bull are certainly hoping that is the case.
Scanning various postings on several sites, I must say that it is my perception, that most are ignoring Seb V. as a factor tomorrow. Most are betting it's between Massa and JB who will win the race, so, my boy is a dark horse then.
PassWind
May 9 2009, 21:53
QUOTE (Blythy @ May 9 2009, 16:05)

this could be bollocks, but vettel says he's stopping on 27.
http://www.fia.com/en-GB/mediacentre/f1_me...ference_sat.pdfAnd Buttons reply was he was stopping on Lap 32......
FPV GTHO
May 10 2009, 02:28
I'm clutching at straws here, but could Red Bull be running split strategies tomorrow with the chances of rain, with perhaps Vettel on more of a conservative strategy and Webber abit more agressive re. the possibility of rain? Or even Vettel going agressive and Webber conservative?
sejanus
May 10 2009, 05:01
sigh. webber p5 in that car is just not good enough.
bankoq
May 10 2009, 06:50
QUOTE (FPV GTHO @ May 9 2009, 21:53)

I'm clutching at straws here, but could Red Bull be running split strategies tomorrow with the chances of rain, with perhaps Vettel on more of a conservative strategy and Webber abit more agressive re. the possibility of rain? Or even Vettel going agressive and Webber conservative?
But they have same fuel loads
Paul Prost
May 10 2009, 07:24
Why would you put the same fuel in both cars?
rdebourbon
May 10 2009, 07:29
QUOTE (Paul Prost @ May 10 2009, 08:24)

Why would you put the same fuel in both cars?
Due to the nature of a race, at least one of the cars is going to be running behind another car at some stage, they can then lean the engine, and potentially save some fuel, also, different driving styles use different fuel economies.. All you need it 20secs difference between the two cars to stop them on the same lap, and if you dont have that time, you stop them 1 lap apart.. but regardless, teams never run the cars to empty before pitting, they will always pit with a couple of laps spare in the tank, just in case there is a fuel rig problem... so, pitting with 2, or 3 laps makes little difference..
By giving them the same fuel, you are giving each driver an equal shot at the race, probably with the optimal fuel load, which is better than favouring one driver over the other...
QUOTE (dank @ May 9 2009, 23:25)

Both drivers have the same fuel onboard (46.5kg) so should be stopping on lap 18/19.
Horner: ''With our advantageous fuel consumption we may be abe to stay out an extra lap.''
Kelateboy
May 10 2009, 07:42
QUOTE (Paul Prost @ May 10 2009, 07:24)

Why would you put the same fuel in both cars?
RBR probably thought that the 18/19 laps is the limit for soft tyres with the option of going for prime or soft tyres for the second stint depending on the traffic.
Last year, the earliest pit stopper was Alonso on Lap 16. The rest stopped between Lap 20-25, and all of them were on 2 stoppers. I believe this year, everybody is on a 2 stopper as well.
-KB
Kelateboy
May 10 2009, 07:49
QUOTE (AFCA @ May 10 2009, 07:38)

Horner: ''With our advantageous fuel consumption we may be abe to stay out an extra lap.''
If Vettel could run 3 laps longer than Button, he may be able to leapfrog Button after the 1st pit stop provided that he stays on Button's tail and does not lose out at the start to Massa.
If Vettel is stucked behind Massa, it would be Bahrain all over again. 2nd would be the best position for him.
-KB
Gilles4Ever
May 10 2009, 08:37
Vettel could easilly find himself 4th after T1. He is on the dirty side and a KERS car behind him.
Barramut
May 10 2009, 09:19
QUOTE (bankoq @ May 10 2009, 05:50)

But they have same fuel loads

1> RBR wants to make a direct comparison of drivers performance [all consitions are the same]
2> RBR presumes the 1st RBR car in the race will have some 20sec of advantage so pitting both cars in the same lap would be possible.
3> RBR declared wrong fuel loads for one of their cars.
QUOTE (MiPe @ May 5 2009, 12:52)

Spain: race odds
Dry race: Seb V. - P5
Mark - P7
Wet race:
Seb V. - P3
Mark - P5
(Courtesy of my crystal ball).

Prediction corrected before race and after quali:
Dry race:
Seb V. - P4 - Kimi is out of it;
Mark - P6
Mix Dry/ Wet race:
Seb V. - P2
Mark - P5
Full Wet race:
Seb V. - P1
Mark - P5
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 12:07
GAAAAAHHHHH, Webber and Vettel in big trouble with Alonso and KERS essentially getting a re-start ... fark.
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 12:22
Pffffft.... Alonso and KERS... so what? Mark had 'im.
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 12:24
Come on Seb get a jiggle on son!!
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 12:25
Massa is a pretty big 'fly in the ointment' atm...
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 12:34
Damn Massa, can't get a read on Mark and Seb's pace.
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 12:37
WTF happens to mark on pit stops?????????? Jesus!
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 12:40
screwed...
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 12:46
He's turning faster laps than Vettel but somehow Vettel is 7 seconds ahead, amazing.
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 12:51
QUOTE (Alfisti @ May 10 2009, 20:46)

He's turning faster laps than Vettel but somehow Vettel is 7 seconds ahead, amazing.
I suspect that Webber was released into traffic (bimmer's, hamilton).
He's in clear air now - perhaps he can claw some back.
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 12:56
QUOTE (krapmeister @ May 10 2009, 14:51)

I suspect that Webber was released into traffic (bimmer's, hamilton).
He's in clear air now - perhaps he can claw some back.
Yeah but he lost 6 seconds before he even got stuck behind them. He just ran 1/2 a second faster again but Seb has now caught Massa.
Both drivers in clear air now and Webber is faster, fuel loads will be interesting.
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 13:11
Webber was fueled quite a bit heavier for the 2nd stint it seems...
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 13:13
QUOTE (krapmeister @ May 10 2009, 15:11)

Webber was fueled quite a bit heavier for the 2nd stint it seems...
If Webber stays out 5 more laps he leap frogs vettel and massa. He's 2 seconds a lap faster.
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 13:15
QUOTE (Alfisti @ May 10 2009, 22:13)

If Webber stays out 5 more laps he leap frogs vettel and massa. He's 2 seconds a lap faster.
5more laps might be pushing it but lets hope so lol...
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 13:16
QUOTE (krapmeister @ May 10 2009, 15:15)

5more laps might be pushing it but lets hope so lol...
Geee this is tight ..... massa, vetel and webber all over each other in real terms.
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 13:17
I was hoping Rosberg was going to get amongst Massa/vettel for a few laps but not to be...
Webber in...
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 13:18
My god - Mark's got a strategy to work for him...
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 13:18
QUOTE (krapmeister @ May 10 2009, 15:17)

I was hoping Rosberg was going to get amongst Massa/vettel for a few laps but not to be...
Webber in...
Webber passes massa and vettel! Go bloody figure.
krapmeister
May 10 2009, 13:20
It's not over yet...
Alfisti
May 10 2009, 13:22
QUOTE (krapmeister @ May 10 2009, 15:20)

It's not over yet...
Massa is killing Vettel and Webber flying on hards, don't kill the tyres Mark!
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