... after the season, that is.
Thread idea blatantly stolen from a german board I used to visit some years ago.

Here we go:

1. Jenson Button won't be Champion.
2. Lewis Hamilton will finish in the Top 3 of the final championship standings.
3. BMW will go looking for two new drivers for 2010 - voluntarily or not.
4. Piquet will beat Alonso in at least 4 races they both finish.
5. For at least 3 veteran drivers this will be the last season.
6. Valencia will be yet another snore fest ...
7. ... just in contrast to Hungary which will be a nailbiter.
8. Because of the financial crisis another manufacturer will quit.
9. Come May and June we will experiencing the usual accusations between some teams, which will nearly - but unsuccessfully - divide FOTA. Pretty soon Max chime in and heat up he debate.
10. Ron'n'Luca (a.k.a. The Trouble Twins) will finally succeed in severely cutting FIA's power. They won't get rid of Max entirely though.

and finally:
11. The WDC will be a Brazilian. But I wont stand up for this!

1. Jenson Button won't be Champion. - Agree
2. Lewis Hamilton will finish in the Top 3 of the final championship standings. - No
3. BMW will go looking for two new drivers for 2010 - voluntarily or not. - Agree
4. Piquet will beat Alonso in at least 4 races they both finish. - No (they would sack him after his 3rd )
5. For at least 3 veteran drivers this will be the last season. - Agree
6. Valencia will be yet another snore fest ... - Agree
7. ... just in contrast to Hungary which will be a nailbiter. - No
8. Because of the financial crisis another manufacturer will quit. - No
9. Come May and June we will experiencing the usual accusations between some teams, which will nearly - but unsuccessfully - divide FOTA. Pretty soon Max chime in and heat up he debate. - No
10. Ron'n'Luca (a.k.a. The Trouble Twins) will finally succeed in severely cutting FIA's power. They won't get rid of Max entirely though. - No

and finally:
11. The WDC will be a Brazilian. But I wont stand up for this! - No

1. Agree
2. Agree
3. Don't agree
4. No, but only because they won't finish too many races together, otherwise he'll beat Alonso at least 4 time
5. Don't agree.
6. Agree.
7. I hope so because I'll be there.
8. Don't agree.
9. Of course, this is obvious.
10. I wish it happened.

and finally:
11. Maybe.

1. Won't bet on it. Seems the first few races will be his unless something drastic happens.
2. No
3. Maybe in Nick's case
4. If Alonso has poor reliability. On speed, HELL NO
5. No
6. Obvious
7. If it's wet
8. No
9. Well it's happening now.
10. No

and finally:
11. Maybe

On 1: I think it's all but certain. They need to keep developing and they need budget for that. Virgin might provide some, but they need stability in resources throughout the year. If they can keep developing constantly, they might make it. The advantage they have seems to be ~1 second, so they have quite a big buffer.

I think however, that Ferrari and McLaren will come closer as the season progresses, but perhaps it will be too late. The season is long still

Yawn. Cowards. No ideas of your own?

Piquet beat Alonso? Is his dad coming back into the sport? Or his mum?

Hamilton, Massa and the usual suspects will be back when they get fancy defusers of their own.

Button will not win the title, I think Massa will (which I do not want to happen, but I think it will happen). Ferraris resources are just to vast in comparison to people like Mr Brawn.

Ok here goes

1. Brawn GP / Virgin will win the WCC
2. There will be a row between Button and Barrichello (started by Rubens!)
3. Hamilton will win at least 3 races
4. Alonso will be linked with Ferrari for 2010
5. Kimi will be linked with drinking and lapdancing clubs for 2010
6. Webber will not win a race in 2009
7. Brawn will win the Japanese GP
8. McLaren MERCEDES will suddenly sprout an exact copy of the Brawn diffuser ;) *cough* discount engines *cough*
9. Kubica will again challenge strongly for the WDC, winning more than once
10. Buemi will outscore Bourdais

Any my unoffical number 11: Eddie Jordan will talk utter shite all year.

I'll stick my head out.

1. The result from the first two races will not be changed, even if the protested diffusors are found illegal.
2. Massa will beat Raikonnen in the championship.
3. Toyota will not win a race this year either.
4. Button will not be the new champion.
5. Vettel will get (at least) twice as many points as Webber.
6. Hamilton will be in the top 4 at the end of the year.
7. Hamilton will not be champion.
8. The Mercedes engine will be the one with the most race wins.
9. Force India will finish last.
10. Only cars with KERS will win races in the second half of the season.

1. Hamilton to win the WDC! Once the diffuser row ends the KERS teams start taking the top 5-6 positions during the 2nd half of the season.
2. This is Kimi's last season- please!
3. This will be Piquets last year in F1.
4. Brawn staff will start leaving for Mclaren.
5. Vettel or Alonso to join Ferrari.
6. BBC will change their commentary.
7. Rubens to retire from the lead in Brazil.
8. Number 7 will make Rubens cry causing a flash flood leading to a red flag!
9. British fans will complain after a FIA ruling helps Ferrari in anyway.
10. At least 1 of my predictions will be wrong!

I'll bite!!!


1) We'll have a new first-time WDC this year
2) Hamilton won't be in the top 3
3) Kubica will win al least 3 races this year
4) Vettel will win at least 3 races this year, 2 of which will be wet races
5) McLaren will catch up end of season and do a 1-2
6) Button will lead the first half season standing but will lose the second half
7) Webber will be seriously outperformed, both in quali and race
8) Piquet won't last the seaon
9) The WDC will be either German or Polish
10) Coulthart will drive one more race this year!

OK, I'll bite:


1. At the end of the season Alonso will leave Renault and join either Honda/Brawn/Virgin or Ferrari.

2. Kubica will be a world champion*.

3. Webber will beat Vettel over the season (or at least it will be close)

4. Heidfeld will win a race.

5. Toyota won't win a race and will withdraw from F1.

6. In the first half of the season Hamilton won't be on the podium on merit.

7-10. No idea.






* either WDC or WCC with BWM

I'll wait with my predictions til Sepang - today was too chaotic to draw any season long conclusions from it.

Where's the fun in that? You might as well wait until the end of the season.

1. BGP will not get two cars to the finish in another race until Monaco
2. Hamilton will be the top British driver in qualiyfying, beating Jenson Button 12-5
3. The 3 disgusting whipping boys in F1, Piquet, Kovalainen, and Nakajima, will be sacked at the end of the season
4. Kubica will not run KERS all season
5. Alonso will publicly sign a contract with another team this season (for next season)
6. The winner of the world championship will be the team who brings their Brawn diffuser to the track first (i.e. Hamilton again )
7. Vettel will win more races than both BGP drivers put together
8. Kimi will have more DNFs than any other driver (apart from the Whipping Boys)
9. Red Bull will win their first race in wet/dry/wet conditions in China
10. The Italian GP will see a major, 'negative' event that will shape the destiny of F1's future.

I don't find wild guessing too fun. One more race should be enough to see how the things look (but, damn!, the chances are big that Malysia will be a rain one - so much about getting a clearer picture)

1. The WDC will not be won by a Brawn driver
2. Barrichello will finish ahead of Button in the WDC
3. Alonso won't stand on the podium more than once
4. Toyota will win a race
5. Red Bull too
6. Ferrari's line-up won't be Massa-Kimi next year
7. In Singapore, the race will be wet
8. Renault will sign Grosjean for 2010
9. There will be a lot of protests and appeals
10. There will be a huge crash because of the new front wings

That's an observation, not a prediction!

Just for the record: after the season's end I will bring back this thread for us all to have a laugh how far off we were.

1. Alonso has a choice between Brawn and Ferrari for 2010, and chooses Brawn.
2. WDC is decided at the last race again.
3. Toyota withdraw, Honda buys the team (just kidding )
4. Someone puts superleggera Ant Davidson in a kers car.
5. Max surprises everyone and retires.
6. wdc is decided by gearbox reliability.
7, Brawn wcc.
8. DDD's are banned part way through the season.
9 Kubi is in contention for wdc at the last race.
10. Ferrari don't win a race.

Well out on a limb with that last one Not a wish, I should say, just have an idea one of the others will always have a better weekend.

I`ll predict nothing. I thought Brawn was a testing bluff and now I feel a fool.

1. At least one GP will be Kers free (monaco maybe)
2. Everyone will have a Brawn diffusor by race 5
3. Red Bull will win Races and beat Renault in the WCC
4. Webber won't win races...
5. Brawn GP will be renamed Virgin leading to commontator gaffs galore as driver a takes out the Virgin, or driver b hits the Virgin from behind or theres smoke coming out of Button's Virgin, or looks like the rubbers blown on that Virgin even Barrichello walks sadly away from his broken Virgin
6. LB continues to post marginally above the gutter in his humour.
7. Monaco will have more safety cars than the Indy 500
8. Toyota will win a race (in the back of Rosberg's Williams)
9. DC will punch EJ live on air at some point
10. Ferrari and McLaren won't win all season (oh one can hope!)

1) Every team except Toro Rosso and Force India will win at least one race this year
2) Force India will replace Sutil with Liuzzi
3) Renault wll replace Piquet with Grosjean at the end of the year
4) Hamilton will win a race this year
5) By the end of the year everyone will have copied the Brawn/Toyota/Williams diffuser
6) Webber will win a race, and it will be his only win
7) Heidfeld will win a race, and it will be his only win
8) A front wing will be changed at every GP
9) Button will win WDC
10) Brawn will win WCC
11) Abu Dhabi will be delayed and Canada will get back on the calendar (I can dream, can't I )

This is cheating, but I'll give it a go now I've seen the cars for real.

1, There will be at least a retirement in every single race this year.
2, One of the Ferrari drivers will fail to win a single race, while the other wins the finale.
3, McLaren won't get on top with its issues, and will readdress development to the 2010 car early.
4, Jenson Button will win 8 races, since the others will only catch up late on.
5, Every driver in the fireld will score points.
6, Jean Todt will be the new FIA president, and start working with the teams against Bernie.
7, McLaren will rob Brawn of Virgin sposnorship.
8, McLaren will replace Kovalainen with Rosberg.
9, Ferrari sacks Räikkönen, and signs Alonso for 2010.
10, Williams will be on the podium five times, but won't win.

1. Brawn will continue to win early in the season....
2. but reliability issues mean others will catch up.
3. lewis hamilton will continue to extract the maximum from the car, and win a race or two.
4. Toyota will win a wet race
5. Frustration with another average season will see Kubica depart BMW at the end of season
6. alonso will struggle to get into the points, but will still easilly best piquet.
7. Vettel and rosberg will be in contention for the world title.
8. ferarri will resolve their issues, and win again before too long.
9. Kovalinen, piquet and bordais will not compete in f1 in 2010
10. nakajima will crash all by himself and cause a safety car at least twice more during the season

Ok here goes

1. Button will be WDC
2. A Brazilian will be second but it won't be Piquet (obviously) because
3. He will have been sacked by Flav before the season is half over
4. Hamilton won't win a race
5. But Mark Webber will
6. And so will Massa
6. Alonso will announce that he's going to Ferrari for 2010
7. Because Kimi will retire at the end of the season
8. Kubica will get three podiums, but no wins
9. Nakajima's F1 career will be over at the end of 2009
10. Force India will get at least 5 points

So that's what the 'edit' button is for!

1. A Toyota will grab a win
2. Heidfeld will win in a farcical race
3. Brawn will win at least 4 races
4. Alonso will win the final race of the year
5. and Piquet won't be driving there
6. Barrichello will retire after challenging for the title
7. Brawn will win the WCC
8. Kimi will have the most DNFs
9. But Massa will win twice
10. Lewis will lead home a McLaren 1-2 at a race until Kovy bins it
11. Webber will win a wet race
12. but Vettel won't win any
13. Someone will get seriously hurt in a crash
14. Most of my predictions will be wrong

1. Brawn GP and Branson will have a fairly public dispute.
2. Timo Glock will win a race.
3. Bourdais will be replaced mid-season.
4. McLaren will only get near to the pace at the very end of the European season.
5. Ferrari will be fully on the pace by the start of the European season.
6. It will not rain over the weekend of the British GP.
7. The Hungarian GP will be a wet race...
8. ...during which Jenson will crash out while leading.
9. The Malaysian GP will be stopped before the allotted time.
10. Williams will not race their flywheel KERS.

Going to bump this thread as well.

Some people's actually look OK, but others are far wide of the mark. Snap Matt's #9 and #10 are bang on target - in fact most of his are spot on.

Snap Matt: can you let us know what the lottery numbers are going to be this weekend?

1. wrong
2. wrong
3. Due to Frank Williams, they probably won't be looking for any drivers, so wrong.
4. wrong
5. Unlikely. If anything with the new teams wanting experience alongside pay driver, there will be more veteran drivers on the grid. So probably wrong.
6. probably right.
7. More of an eyebiter in Massa's case. But wrong. Mostly boring.
8. Right, BMW is gone.
9. Not really. Only Williams, (the backstabbing bastards) and force india caused problems.
10 Probably right. Todt will win due to the threats and downright vote rigging, so Max will continue.
11. Wrong.

Not a very good record. .

Fair effort that.

In sum 2.5 points. Miserable fail!

Can you believe it I forgot to post my predictions, but I did find this piece of paper where I had written down my 10 prediction for the year back in January. Here they are:

1. The Malaysian GP will be red flagged due to rain and only half points awarded
2. Briatore will be fired for fixing the 2008 Singapore grand prix by ordering Piquet to crash deliberately
3. Hamilton will lose a podium finish in Australia for lying to the stewards and the McLaren team manager Ryan will be fired as a result
4. Michael Schumacher’s comeback will be aborted in August due to injuries sustained in a motorbike accident
5. Ecclestone will express that he thinks that Hitler was a good leader and that it was good for Formula 1 that Senna got killed
6. FOTA will publically initiate the launch of a rivalry series
7. Jenson Button will be the world champion in a new team called Brawn
8. Massa will wave the chequered flag at the Brazilian GP
9. BMW will announce that 2009 will be their last season
10. Kovalainen will repeat Massa’s 2008 Singapore fuel rig mishap in Brazil

I wouldn't worry about it. TBH, anyone who could predict this season would make mystic meg look like a Kimi/Fernando/Lewis/Schumacher etc fanatic.

It has been a great season, and the best guy won.

If you'd picked one or two of those - of if you'd been far more generalised rather than picking specifics - I might have believed you, but all ten? Sorry, but I'm calling BS.

I'd forgotten how much sh*te he posted when he was around, but I'll give it to him, he got some stuff right

Nice agenda

Number 2 ain't right atm either.

But all correct. "Sir" Frank is an absolute arsehole.

I personally know a number of Sauber members, and "Sir" Frank putting them out of a job because he is scared of losing, (last race was perfect BTW. Both Williams out with a Sauber on the podium), is beyond contempt.

Yes, I have an agenda. I want Williams to go bankrupt. That would be just deserts for the hard working Sauber team members, who have only one guy stopping their entry.

If Williams go belly up, then Sauber get to race. Given the fact that they are better than Williams, this would be the perfect result.

Let's not have this argument again. It's pretty plain that your agenda only chooses certain facts. Like, for example, the way Martin Whitmarsh expressed doubts over QADBAK's owners. Did you know that the QADBAK name is registered in the Virgin Islands, but is only a shell corporation? Did you know that one of their representatives, Russell King, recently had assets seized in a court investigation? Did you know that one of the Middle Eastern families it claims to represent denies any and all association with the group? Did you know that no-one knows who Lionel Fischer - the man QADBAK would have appointed to represent the team - actually is? There's a whole lot going on behind the scenes that nobody knows anything about, but which is making everyone more than a mite jittery. And since QADBAK needs unanimous approval to make the grid s a fourteenth team, FOTA only need to have one person block them. That person happens to be Frank Williams; for all we know, he agreed to block QADBAK as one of the conditions of the team rejoining FOTA, a kind of show of loyalty.

And it's not like every Sauber employee will be lining up for government supprt, will it? There's four new teams out there, all of whom will be in serious need of skilled people.

I'm calling sarcasm...

There are people here who know many people at Williams (and Brawn, and McLaren, and LiteSpeed, and so on and so forth). You just argued yourself into a hole from which there is no escape by making a statement which



Frank Williams is doing what others fear to do (because of their shareholders, primarily): speaking his mind and toeing the line. If the rules state that a team can't compete because they didn't sign the Concorde Agreement, why should *anyone* let them? BMW at a corporate level are to blame for this - not Williams, not FOTA, and (for once) not the FIA.

BTW your "use" of "quotes" around Sir Frank's title is disingenuous - he really does have a knighthood. And a Legion d'honneur, too. I dare say that he's rather more honourable than a significant percentage of people involved in motorsport at a similar level, bearing in mind that he's never sold his soul (or the company) to the highest bidder and walked away with millions.

you're lousy fortune teller

5 out of 10, well, you're average fortune teller

Whats his current nickname?

5 good, 1 undecided, 4 wrong... Not too bad!

1) The chances of me being right on this one seem slim to non existent
2) Half correct, i'm impressed with how Sutil has done
3) Half correct
4) Correct
5) Sort of, no technical expert
6) Won, and won another, which is good for him
7) There is one more race for him to do it...
8) Not sure how correct I am on this one
9) Correct
10) Correct
11) Incorrect (though its good to see it back next year)