Bower Birds are famous for being attracted to anything shiny

Feel free to add to this thread if you like, here is an example....

http://jalopnik.com/5232502/ferrari-f40-lm-supercar-teardown

Notice the kit car'ish construction of the chassis in the Fazza (no different to a Lambo either).

How about your favorite drawing Tony Mathews?

Cool. That rear chassis don't look too strong does it! Still, I quite like the handmade finish you get with Ferraris.
Stoopid question: what is the reasoning for the painted brake discs?

I'm normally repelled by shiny things but I'm a bit of a fan of the Lancia LC2:
http://www.gurneyflap.com/lancialc2.html

Stoopid answer: Temperature sensitive paint.

why not tell him, if the green goes white under braking, temps ok, if red goes white then more cooling is required, if green stays green then brakes re running too cool,
not stoopid you didnt know once.

Still a stunning car.. Who own(ed) it, Mr Fox?

I'm obviously a Bower Bird cheapy, and if I had the room - and permission - I'd be surrounded by 'stuff'. Not all of it is shiney, my W163 piston is definitely matt, and stained, but beautiful to my eyes. Surface finishes have always fascinated me, and often Jim Allington and I would discuss, over our morning coffee - can I hear Pseuds Corner calling? - the difference between chrome, nickel, polished steel, polished aluminium, anodised...Oh! The days seemed so short!

I have a small collection, one large item, a couple of 'middling' items - a pair of Penske CNC-machined bulkheads - and a few smaller bits. One, a March-Porsche P90 gold-anodised titanium wheel nut I have posted on another thread, an F3000 wheel, and so on. The large item is a dummy Ilmor Chevrolet 265A engine, but as I had to down-size it is no longer with me but languishing in storage, sadly no longer in the exhibition condition that Paul Morgan had it prepared for me. One of these days...

I miss aluminium tubs, they were a challange to paint, but ultimately more interesting than all-carbon, but a shiny coolant pipe or heat exchanger against glossy carbon, complete with reflections, was great! All a bit odd when my decor of choice is minimalist, but perhaps just as a back-drop to some beautiful objects, shiney or matt!

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z16739/...ir-Concept.aspx

Me too. I love looking at metals and metal finishes. The variety is infinite.

Well that was kind of the reason for the thread, we can all go to any car forum etc to see cars but I would like to see metal as per my first example - especially partly disassembled cars.

Speaking of the beauty of bare metal, here is a car built by my good buddy Dan Webb, a free-form hot rod he created as a tribute to Barney Oldfield's Golden Submarine. For the past three years or so he has shown the car in various degrees of completion at SEMA in Las Vegas and at the Detroit Autorama. The engine is a late model Ford DOHC four; the body panels were formed by Craig Naff and the wheels are Dayton Wire. At this year's Autorama last month he displayed the completed car -- and yes, it's completed; he says it will never, ever be painted. Check out the detailing.

The matching black roadster next to it, built previously, belongs to his daughter Ashley.

^drool

Now thats shit hot, thanks McGuire.

I can look at radical Rods all day long and thats close to the best I have seen.

I guess he may have seen a Maserati 250F at sometime in his life? the cockpit reeks of a 250F.

Did he by chance do the spectator railing as well!

Please feel free to show a few more shots of it.......

That aint nothing. Check out Leno's Tank Car.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQHRNeY9zUU

http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive...ge/4206704.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDhonGxsKyE Tank Car drifting.

Yep, also 8CTF. Webb is one of those guys who looks at everything across the automotive spectrum and takes in all of it. He won the Ridler Award way back in 1990 and has since taken the attitude of been there, done that so stuff all that and let's do something original. It's sort of incorrect to regard this car as a hot rod; it's more of an automotive objet d'art. I have quite a few construction photos but it will take a while to find them.

Great and highly appreciated if you could, ta

here's a gallery at Jalopnik. You want to click through each photo for max res...wouldn't want to miss anything.

http://jalopnik.com/photogallery/Goldensub09/

That tank car is just monstrous. The Golden Sub looks like something out of Flash Gordon or something, it truly is art. I don't really go for hot rods and stuff like that but that thing is just cool, down to the exhaust coming out of the point of the teardrop. Maybe it's because I love streamlined shapes.

Gotta laff, your the biggest NASCAR fan around here!

Our bowerbirds are attracted to blue things....



photos shamlessly stolen from the net

I have never seen a bowerbird with polished alloy in its mouth.

The most beautiful machine ever made.

You might if he'd ever been to my dentist!

I can't see it, theres a plane parked in front....

I can't see it, the engine covers are still on...

I would have thought that a dude/bloke like yourself would like to delve even deeper into the matter. Have you ever drawn a Merlin? Would you kindly post a link or a picture if you have?

I've seen one in a 57 Chev and a V2 motorcycle.

And the 'Stang is great but only when it's got those teeth! I like Thunderbolts too.

Some Aussie put an engine from this plane in is 55 Chevy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiU3VpP2VhU&NR=1

It is only fitting that the P51, the most beautiful thing in the history of the universe also has the most beautiful sound ever heard.
I thought I wanted one until I put in 6 hours over 4 days with the intent of purchasing it. The pre-flight and post flight inspections every day proved tedious having to add gallons of oil and fuel each time. Having had a Pitts S2B, it spoilt the experience of anything I have flown since. The Pitts just needed another 1000hp.
The P51 take off and landing is great fun. The climb rate and acceleration over the top is impressive. The Merlin doesn't sound as nice in the cockpit as it does outside and without ear protection, one would go deaf in a minute. The roll rate is awful. I don't know how those boys had dog fights in these things with full fuel, ordinance, armor, etc. all of which had been removed from this one yet it still was a sluggish performer. Since the old bird was 60 years old at the time, it had to be treated kindly. You can't spin it or fly inverted or even loop it. You will get to places in a hurry but you will have to wait while the 70 gallons of fuel that you have burned for each hour of flight is replenished. You have to use crap fuel which won't give you the power you want anyway. Note the mild aerobatics they perform in P51s at air shows. The novelty wore off on the 4th day. At half the price, I ended up with an Extra 300c which wasn't as much fun as the Pitts and also short of a 1000hp. The Mustang is worth over $ million today. It would cost you over $100 000/year even if you didn't fly it. Been there, done that.

I'm afraid this dude/bloke was never commissioned to do a Merlin, much as he would have liked to.

Do it for fun you greedy capitalist pig.

Commission him to do it you bloody cheapskate!

You tell him, cheapy, I'll hold your coat! PhII, I can't afford to work for two months for nothing, illustrating was a job, not a hobby! Somewhere I have a photo taken from inside a Mustang whilst inverted - I'll look it out.

Capitalism is good!! I hope Comrade that in years to come your developing country can find the same capitalistic pleasures that we treasure. I must go, I think my housecleaners new Cadillac has just arrived.





Must have been uncomfortable for you, not much room I'm guessing (must have hung your legs over the top of the seat I guess, was the canopy open?).

Somewhere I have a photo taken from inside a Mustang whilst inverted - I'll look it out.

Was it this one?

http://leesburgfire.org/images/mustang_002.jpg

Tee Hee.

Cheeky buggers! Just you wait...!

You can take a picture during a roll (aileron or barrel) at the inverted point. To fly it inverted is another matter. The wing is a high laminar flow profile and the loading goes even higher inverted. I hesitated during an aileron roll to inverted flight in the P51 and to obtain level flight, the wing buffeted as I pushed the nose up to a high pitch. Hard work and a tremendous loss of energy. In a dog fight where a push over to negative is required, it was more effective to roll to positive to save your ass. Aerobatic planes have a symmetrical wing and as long as you have inverted fuel and oil, this attitude is effortless to maintain. It can be done in a P51, Spitfire, ME 109, FW 190 but was rarely done because of high energy loss. If you were on a 109's six in your Spit and he decided to push it over negative, your fuel supply would be interrupted if you did the same, Manfred would either roll inverted and pull back to a positive dive or pull back shortly after a brief negative push over. After you had inverted to follow him positive, he would be in a climb.

Yeah, this was half-way through a gentle barrel-roll, but I can't find the photo's at the moment, so I have to prepare myself for some more ribbing...

Found it! The back of Paul Morgan's head as we barrel-rolled 'somewhere over England', as they used to say - in fact somewhere over Bedfordshire, between Hitchin and Sywell aerodrome. I've tried, a couple of times, to identify the exact spot on the map by the road layout, but it ain't easy. Paul's Mustang, as PHII knows, had the large rear tank removed to allow for a small seat, but the headroom is limited due to the slope of the canopy, especially if you ate all your greens as a child.

After a fly-by of my house, much to my then-wife's surprise, we headed back, and half way to Sywell Paul asked if there was anything else I'd like to do. Strapped for an answer all I could think to say was "Any chance of a roll?". Paul said he'd have to gain some height, and then over we went, me pushed further and further down with the g, the trusty Nikon on motordrive, with a 15mm lens, unable to look through the viewfinder, so I'm fairly happy with the shot, even happier with the memory.

Mmmm. Did he pull back the power at this point in the roll? You say it is a barrel roll, but he could be dishing out in an aileron roll. The longitudinal axis should be parallel to the ground half way thru the roll with stick forward to zero G at about 250mph, be it aileron or barrel. Not achieving this, he finds that during this next quarter roll shown in the picture (180 to 270) he is at 165' with a 30' nose down attitude. He should not exceed 20' If he were rolling to the left, the engine torque would be assisting the roll and less rudder and aileron would be required. Rolling to the right requires more planning and practice. If your camera is directly in front of your face, the roll out to the right looks coordinated and he appears to be upright in his seat. In other words, he has rudder input appropriate for this aileron deflection, which in this case, is near max. He is also pulling back hard and he must be a bit miffed at his performance, especially when some wise guy is recording it. Airspeed and G loads is building fast as he spirals out. What speed did you reach and how many Gs was reached when that wing got level? If he didn't pull back the power, Id say the airspeed may have reached 400mph and 5 Gs. A properly executed barrel roll is considered a mildly positive maneuver. WWII pilots often rolled fully coordinated by instinct because the guns are accurate that way. Trouble with that is that you can dish out like Morgan is doing. A lot of pilots don't use the rudder during the first half of the roll for this reason. Victory rolls are usually to the left and the wave roll from left to right is fully coordinated. Watch for this in the next movie you see. There is no adverse yaw if all this is done correctly.
The mechanic of the owner of the plane checked me out. He was a tall guy and his feet were next to my knees.

I make an annual pilgrimage to the Battle of Britain museum in Hendon. Been to Duxford many times.

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Found it! The back of Paul Morgan's head as we barrel-rolled 'somewhere over England', as they used to say - in fact somewhere over Bedfordshire, between Hitchin and Sywell aerodrome. I've tried, a couple of times, to identify the exact spot on the map by the road layout, but it ain't easy. Paul's Mustang, as PHII knows, had the large rear tank removed to allow for a small seat, but the headroom is limited due to the slope of the canopy, especially if you ate all your greens as a child.

After a fly-by of my house, much to my then-wife's surprise, we headed back, and half way to Sywell Paul asked if there was anything else I'd like to do. Strapped for an answer all I could think to say was "Any chance of a roll?". Paul said he'd have to gain some height, and then over we went, me pushed further and further down with the g, the trusty Nikon on motordrive, with a 15mm lens, unable to look through the viewfinder, so I'm fairly happy with the shot, even happier with the memory.
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I'm not that big on traditional hot rods but who doesn't love great workmanship?
http://www.roddersjournal.com/gallery/v/Gallery008.jpg.html
http://www.roddersjournal.com/gallery/v/Gallery099.jpg.html

Always had a thing for Magnesium wheels...
http://www.roadsters.com/wall_500x408.jpg

Many of these are clad in chrome paint but some...
http://forums.streetfire.net/showthread.php?t=4074
...get this lecher's drool response going.

"meanwhile, in the motorcar kingdom, they're finding all that glitters is not chrome" -Elvis Costello

Wow, back on track! I have to confess that in my view it is easy to have too much chrome, I don't know what it is that troubles me, it's just too 'treacley', I know that it is electrically deposited, and only a thin layer, but I think it should be used sparingly. Other coatings don't have the same effect on me, cadmium, nickel, anodising - perhaps it is just the ultra-high gloss of chrome that I get tired of. A bit here and there is fine, but I prefer polished metal, and a satin finish on aluminium looks neat. I also think engine-turning is easily over-done, not surprising that it tends to feature on dash-boards and fire-walls more than anything else. I find it disappointing to peer under the hood of most of todays performance cars, road or race, to see a bland enamelled cover and a name plate - only a few bulges to tell you it is a V6, V8 or V10.

I've always thought the DeLoreans looked cool.

In terms of interesting construction pictures, the off road community does alot of very interesting things. For those interested in race vehicle construction and fabrication, I warn that the following link could lead to hours and hours staring at the screen. Just click on any of the feature vehicles, note that the thumbnails all enlarge to very good resolution. Again, be warned before clicking on the link, hours and hours, seriously:

http://www.race-dezert.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=27

You have been warned!!!

Love this...

http://www.microcarmuseum.com/video/p50.html

from here ....

http://www.microcarmuseum.com/video/index.html

Yeah I know and surprised at the standards these Guys have, as high as F1 - bizzare when you think of what they do to them!

The handling looks death defying - talk about "Unsafe at any Speed" - the Corvair had nothing on the P50.

When I was in Canberra for a while I met the owner of a large trucking company who's trucks were some of the fanciest in Australia and regulars in a magazine there called "Trucking Life". We were all having a beer together and we found out from him the chrome and accessories were for a reason or as he put it himself pointing to one of his rigs "if I put another $10,000 worth of chrome on that I will have my drivers working for free" and he was serious!

More on the Peel microcar here, from BBC Top Gear.

Richard

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I make an annual pilgrimage to the Battle of Britain museum in Hendon. Been to Duxford many times.


Me too! I don't normally do planes but these places are fantastic. In fact I went to Duxford yesterday. My eyes were sitting out on stalks all day long.

hold it! is that an sr-71 nose??