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gio66
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Sep 2 2010, 16:18) *
So, no other chance for Chandhok or Klien.


Karun became Red Bull driver for the road shows.
primer
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Sep 2 2010, 15:37) *
Probably, his own pockets.


With that kind of money he could at least try and buy a seat with a quicker team. rolleyes.gif Williams, STR and Renault would not be averse to a decent 'second' paydriver as long as they have one quick charger to lead the points battle.

The guy may be no second coming of Senna, but he is nowhere as bad as some think. People see a 'Japanese F1 driver' and automatically think the worst.
Petroltorque
QUOTE (primer @ Sep 2 2010, 17:25) *
With that kind of money he could at least try and buy a seat with a quicker team. rolleyes.gif Williams, STR and Renault would not be averse to a decent 'second' paydriver as long as they have one quick charger to lead the points battle.

The guy may be no second coming of Senna, but he is nowhere as bad as some think. People see a 'Japanese F1 driver' and automatically think the worst.

The guy is slower than molasses on a hot day. But hey, if his money allows the team to improve the package for next year, so be it. Kolles' interview on the front page has shed absolutely no light on the teams future plans.

As an aside Lotus look like changing motive power to Renault in the hope of ditching the appalling Xtrac transmission. Does this mean that they will now run KERS? If so it will give the other new teams something to think about. KERS and Exhaust Driven Diffusers are the absolute must haves for performance gains in 2011.
Gene and Tonic
Will the EDD be as effective with the single diffuser?
DanardiF1
QUOTE (Gene and Tonic @ Sep 2 2010, 18:13) *
Will the EDD be as effective with the single diffuser?


They used to feed the exhausts right into the diffuser in the 90's. I think McLaren were one of the last to abandon them in favour of the Ferrari-pioneered periscope exhausts. The only problem with feeding the gases that directly is 1. heat and 2. the throttle issue, both of which have modern solutions that are being used in the DDD cars now, so I don't see it necessarily being a dead end technically.

The old-style diffusers pre-2009 were too far back in the car to be able to use this technique properly, but even the single-diffusers of next year will be on the same point of the car as now, so it should still be relevant.
Gene and Tonic
Very informative - thanks smile.gif
noikeee
QUOTE (primer @ Sep 2 2010, 17:25) *
With that kind of money he could at least try and buy a seat with a quicker team. rolleyes.gif Williams, STR and Renault would not be averse to a decent 'second' paydriver as long as they have one quick charger to lead the points battle.

The guy may be no second coming of Senna, but he is nowhere as bad as some think. People see a 'Japanese F1 driver' and automatically think the worst.


He's not as bad as some other paydrivers we've seen along the years, I'm a bit surprised to see him often within only a few tenths of Bruno Senna in qualy, but come on, even in GP2 with the very best team ART, with F1 experience vs a bunch of noobs, he was humiliated by the whole grid...
korzeniow
HRT reached deal with Toyota Motorsport

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The deal will see HRT using Toyota Motorsport's Cologne headquarters, staff and designs of the 2010 car which is called the TF110. Toyota is reportedly rehiring engineers to ensure that they can produce a competitive car for the 2011 F1 season.


Great news! We will see value of Toyota's chassis that we miss so much ths season smile.gif
Gene and Tonic
Excellent news!
Is that a reliable source? Toyota can't stay away cool.gif
Crusoe
21 July 2010 @ 10:00 GMT - Charles Cooper

That's probably where the rumors surfaced.
DanardiF1
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Sep 4 2010, 11:15) *
HRT reached deal with Toyota Motorsport



Great news! We will see value of Toyota's chassis that we miss so much ths season smile.gif


Does this mean the team will be Hispania-Toyota? Or will they run Cosworths still? I assume the latter, as even Lotus with their backing are having to weigh up whether to buy out their Cossie contract to get another deal...

I think it's good that Toyota are using their excellent facilities for a commercial project like this... They've been rehiring engineers all year for something like this, as I've also heard they're looking at WRC as well...

The TF110 will take a bit of reworking to fit a single diffuser, a Cosworth engine, and some of the aero progress that's been made this year, but if Hispania can afford it then I think that would be quite easy work for the guys at Toyota... They'll also have some good tyre data from their work with Pirelli I guess?
MadYarpen
QUOTE (DanardiF1 @ Sep 4 2010, 12:51) *
They'll also have some good tyre data from their work with Pirelli I guess?



honestly I hope not... I mean no one should have it. Or everyone.
DanardiF1
QUOTE (MadYarpen @ Sep 4 2010, 11:55) *
honestly I hope not... I mean no one should have it. Or everyone.


I agree that it should be or all or not, but Toyota must have got something from their own data that they could program into simulator and design calibrations... I'm not saying that Pirelli gave them any data because naturally that would be unfair, especially with F1 engineers moving from team-to-team, but Toyota would need some setup ideas from them in order for Pirelli to see what's working...

Is this why Bruno Senna has been cautious about saying he's looking at going elsewhere? Because this could be a competitive car even next year... Would hate to see him leave but then find they've got their hands on a belter of a car...
gio66
QUOTE (korzeniow @ Sep 4 2010, 12:15) *
HRT reached deal with Toyota Motorsport



Great news! We will see value of Toyota's chassis that we miss so much ths season smile.gif


This is not a news. Look at the date of publication, July 21, 2010
ensign14
HRT are now being sued by their lawyers...

DLA in legal terms are a sort of Dallara. They're worldwide but not really heavy hitters at the topmost levels. So somewhat fitting.
highdownforce
QUOTE (ensign14 @ Sep 10 2010, 09:27) *
HRT are now being sued by their lawyers...

DLA in legal terms are a sort of Dallara. They're worldwide but not really heavy hitters at the topmost levels. So somewhat fitting.

Yep, it was reported by Sport Business [ link ] , it says that those sues are related to debts made the team was still named Campos and was under its old ownership.
So, basically there wasn't much improvements since that time.

Meanwhile Bruno says the nothing is agreed with him for 2011 [ autosport.com ], and yesterday he confirmed that the car has no updates for Monza, what means the they will run more downforce than necessary [ tazio.com.br ].
Petroltorque
I presume Hispania are not planning to do any work on the present chassis and must be putting all their resources towards 2011. To do it on a budget would mean buyiny the tub moulds for the present chassis and Willis designing a proerly optimised car. One hopes they manage to dump the Xtrac transmission. The Toyota tie-up is fast becoming a pipe dream.
highdownforce
QUOTE (Petroltorque @ Sep 10 2010, 13:16) *
I presume Hispania are not planning to do any work on the present chassis and must be putting all their resources towards 2011. To do it on a budget would mean buyiny the tub moulds for the present chassis and Willis designing a proerly optimised car. One hopes they manage to dump the Xtrac transmission. The Toyota tie-up is fast becoming a pipe dream.

I think they never mean to uodate the car since they dumped Dallara, that was just talk.
Mastah
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2010/09/12/yama...pit-stop-video/

What a mess ohwell.gif.
Petroltorque
BBC F1 Forum had a revealing interview with Tony Fernandez who was scathing about the Xtrac transmission. Its the reason why they are changing to Renault.
Don't know if Hispania can afford $20 000, thats a lot of CFD time.
DanardiF1
QUOTE (Petroltorque @ Sep 12 2010, 21:32) *
BBC F1 Forum had a revealing interview with Tony Fernandez who was scathing about the Xtrac transmission. Its the reason why they are changing to Renault.
Don't know if Hispania can afford $20 000, thats a lot of CFD time.


Yeah the whole powertrain back of the Cosworth, which is a good block as Williams are showing, is apparently outdated and not good enough for the amount of use they get now. Fernandes has nearly got a Renault deal sorted for his team, but I wonder if Virgin and Hispania can afford to get out of their Xtrac transmissions and get some other... certainly can't develop their own?

Perhaps Sakon can stump up the $20'000, he is paying for his drive after all, why not give a bit extra to help the team out...
DanardiF1
QUOTE (Petroltorque @ Sep 12 2010, 21:32) *
BBC F1 Forum had a revealing interview with Tony Fernandez who was scathing about the Xtrac transmission. Its the reason why they are changing to Renault.
Don't know if Hispania can afford $20 000, thats a lot of CFD time.


Yeah the whole powertrain back of the Cosworth, which is a good block as Williams are showing, is apparently outdated and not good enough for the amount of use they get now. Fernandes has nearly got a Renault deal sorted for his team, but I wonder if Virgin and Hispania can afford to get out of their Xtrac transmissions and get some other... certainly can't develop their own?

Perhaps Sakon can stump up the $20'000, he is paying for his drive after all, why not give a bit extra to help the team out...
Mandzipop
http://brunnosenna.com.br/votacao/

The 5 finalists for the helmet challenge.
highdownforce
QUOTE (Mandzipop @ Sep 14 2010, 13:18) *
http://brunnosenna.com.br/votacao/

The 5 finalists for the helmet challenge.

Well the very basic Ayrton design is miles away from those five.
And the second one has two McLarens!
Les
The 2nd one is horrible. Its a tough choice between 1 and 4. 5 is horrible too. Think I'll vote for 1.
highdownforce
QUOTE (Les @ Sep 14 2010, 14:14) *
The 2nd one is horrible. Its a tough choice between 1 and 4. 5 is horrible too. Think I'll vote for 1.

I've picked the huge 50 one.
Les
Everyone else loves it! What do I know! (Its first above but 2nd on the voting form which I was referring to)
highdownforce
I was also surprised.
ensign14
Third one is the best for Bruno, the fourth is the best overall design but too removed from what he is commemorating.
Mandzipop
I really don't like the 5th one. I don't know why, but I just don't. It looks like the majority of voters agree.
verde
http://continental-circus.blogspot.com/201...a-hispania.html

This blog (a reliable source in portuguese) is saying that Hispania didn't pay some of the bills related to the Cosworth engines and, running out of engines on the last rounds, the Japanese Grand Prix could be the last one for the spaniards. This could also be the reason for the team is saving the cars inside the pits on the Friday sessions.

I hope it's wrong, but as for Hispania, I don't doubt...
Baddoer
QUOTE (verde @ Sep 14 2010, 22:49) *
http://continental-circus.blogspot.com/201...a-hispania.html

This blog (a reliable source in portuguese) is saying that Hispania didn't pay some of the bills related to the Cosworth engines and, running out of engines on the last rounds, the Japanese Grand Prix could be the last one for the spaniards. This could also be the reason for the team is saving the cars inside the pits on the Friday sessions.

I hope it's wrong, but as for Hispania, I don't doubt...

Nonsense. HRT used 7 engines for both cars, were they're now?
highdownforce
QUOTE (verde @ Sep 14 2010, 15:49) *
http://continental-circus.blogspot.com/201...a-hispania.html

This blog (a reliable source in portuguese) is saying that Hispania didn't pay some of the bills related to the Cosworth engines and, running out of engines on the last rounds, the Japanese Grand Prix could be the last one for the spaniards. This could also be the reason for the team is saving the cars inside the pits on the Friday sessions.

I hope it's wrong, but as for Hispania, I don't doubt...


The source for this article is the Portuguese Autosport.
Not very reliable, if you ask me.
gio66
QUOTE (verde @ Sep 14 2010, 20:49) *
http://continental-circus.blogspot.com/201...a-hispania.html
This could also be the reason for the team is saving the cars inside the pits on the Friday sessions.


Wrong. The cars have remained in the pits because of "stupid small problems", as Bruno told me.
SB
QUOTE (Mandzipop @ Sep 15 2010, 02:06) *
I really don't like the 5th one. I don't know why, but I just don't. It looks like the majority of voters agree.


Completely agree ... totally no idea about what kind of message he wants to present.

The only sound reason to me which he could become a finalist is that there were only 5 people taken part ? stoned.gif stoned.gif stoned.gif
highdownforce
Talking about unreliable sources:

HRT an option for ousted Spanish Formula 1 driver Pedro de la Rosa [ link ]

GMM says that Diario AS claims that not only PdlR has a offer from Hispania, but also that an agreement with Toyota has become reality.
They were doing good until this last part.


Edit:
QUOTE (SB @ Sep 14 2010, 22:08) *
The only sound reason to me which he could become a finalist is that there were only 5 people taken part ? stoned.gif stoned.gif stoned.gif

As reported here in Brazil, more than 500 designs were sent.
I'm guessing that many were out of standard to be used.
gio66
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Sep 15 2010, 15:10) *
As reported here in Brazil, more than 500 designs were sent.


Yes, and Bruno said that 95% are very bad. tongue.gif
highdownforce
If I wasn't so busy id have tried it myself...


Anyway, Kolles have commented about a possible Villeneuve tied up: [ Motorsport-total.com ] [ Google Translation ]

Maybe someone could help with a better translation.
Bleu
I did one too. The worst thing there is that it might remind too much of Alex Yoong's helmet. lol.gif Bottom was yellow and then there as 10 multi-coloured stripes. Top was green/white with 50 done in Brazilian flag.
William Hunt
In Spain they are linking Javier Villa to a 2011 Hispania race seat.
Disgrace
The first one is great, made by the guy responsible for the Pilotoons website. The fourth one looks like a Fisichella helmet.
highdownforce
QUOTE (William Hunt @ Sep 15 2010, 17:56) *
In Spain they are linking Javier Villa to a 2011 Hispania race seat.

Yeah, I've seen that too!
This would mean Mapfre involvement.

QUOTE (Disgrace @ Sep 15 2010, 18:02) *
The first one is great, made by the guy responsible for the Pilotoons website. The fourth one looks like a Fisichella helmet.

I didn't realize it was Mantovani's attempt until now, thanks!
Tiakumosan
If Hispania had money could they buy (and use) the transmission developed by Williams?
Petroltorque
Hispania could use any drivetrain they wish, provided they can fund it.
jee
QUOTE (William Hunt @ Sep 15 2010, 22:56) *
In Spain they are linking Javier Villa to a 2011 Hispania race seat.


Not Roldan Rodriguez? lol.gif
Spanish press ist one of the craziests in the whole world...
Tiakumosan
QUOTE (Petroltorque @ Sep 16 2010, 09:25) *
Hispania could use any drivetrain they wish, provided they can fund it.


Thanks! up.gif
gio66
The many aeropacks developed by HRT

Sakhir

Melbourne

Kuala Lumpur

Shanghai

Montmelò

Monaco

Istanbul Park

Montreal

Valencia

Hockenheimring

Hungaroring

Spa-Francorchamps

Monza
Fastcake
Well that's rather easy to explain.

I see it took seven races before the word "Hispania" appeared on the rear wing. That £30 quid paint job was this years entire development budget.
Mandzipop
QUOTE (Fastcake @ Sep 16 2010, 21:39) *
Well that's rather easy to explain.

I see it took seven races before the word "Hispania" appeared on the rear wing. That £30 quid paint job was this years entire development budget.


If that is the only update, then the drivers are doing quite well considering.
Fastcake
QUOTE (Mandzipop @ Sep 16 2010, 22:37) *
If that is the only update, then the drivers are doing quite well considering.

Yes it is pretty much, apart from a few minor updates like the fuel system. The Hispania mechanics/driver have done a fairly good job in set up and fully exploiting what they have got, which largely explains why they've managed to hang on to the back. Considering the zero testing, and I doubt whether anyone there has seen a simulator, they deserve a well done just for not completly collapsing.
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