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DFV
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Jan 28 2010, 12:44) *
There have been reports that Campos offered to sell to Stefanovic, but the Serbian declined because Campos was selling at an inflated price and the debt due to Dallara was included in the pricetag.


And Stefanovich apparently also said something along the lines of: "why buy it at an inflated price today, when I can get it cheap after Feb. 1st?"
Slowinfastout
Regardless of the figureheads and the purse holders (spectacular wankers, in some cases..), it would be a great shame if both the Toyota and the Dallara cars went to waste... the USF1 and Virgin too, for that matter..
Sausage
Well why would StefanGp buy it anyway, they are gunning to take the place of a team who falls out, not to buy one out.
Regardless it sounds really desperate from Campos' side
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Sausage @ Jan 28 2010, 08:04) *
Well why would StefanGp buy it anyway, they are gunning to take the place of a team who falls out, not to buy one out.
Regardless it sounds really desperate from Campos' side


I guess because the outfit comes with an official FIA F1 entry(?)..

That said, who knows what the hell is Stefanovic really up to.. that's the weirdest most unusual F1 shadowy adventure we've seen in ages.. if it can be called that..
Paolo
If Campos fails, there will be an available and presumably quite good Dallara chassis up for grabs...
highdownforce
WTF? Really, this is getting ridiculous.
noikeee
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Jan 28 2010, 16:55) *
WTF? Really, this is getting ridiculous.


roflmao.gif

Oh dear.
showtime
Nothing new, Campos always said he wanted to sign a woman in the future (he did it before) but I don't think that's gonna happen for 2010.
pingu666
redface.gif
highdownforce
QUOTE (showtime @ Jan 28 2010, 15:28) *
Nothing new, Campos always said he wanted to sign a woman in the future (he did it before) but I don't think that's gonna happen for 2010.

I'm not talking about signing a woman, I'm talking about rumors of a 31 year old driver that are not suited to F1 at all.
And it's a even worst prospect than Soucek or Tung!
The Ragged Edge
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Jan 28 2010, 16:55) *
WTF? Really, this is getting ridiculous.


At this rate, we'll hear Tiff Needlell will be driving for them soon. eek.gif
Slowinfastout
Another nugget of info relating to Teixeira: A1 Team USA awarded $4.5m

That guy is such a trainwreck, I wouldn't let him even mention my name if I was Campos..
Levike
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jan 28 2010, 18:44) *
Another nugget of info relating to Teixeira: A1 Team USA awarded $4.5m

That guy is such a trainwreck, I wouldn't let him even mention my name if I was Campos..


Yes he is a wreck and Bernie and the FIA and Co isn't because they are boyscouts...
highdownforce
A1GP to be Sold
DFV
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Jan 28 2010, 20:49) *


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The High Court ruled last week that the administrators of A1GP Operations, the company which ran the one-make series, had "better title" to the assets than A1GP boss Tony Teixeira's holding company. Administrator Tim Bramston explained that he is now able to proceed with the sale, which will include the 25 Ferrari-powered A1GP cars used in the final year of the series in 2008-09.

Bramston said that he wants to sell A1GP as a whole to secure "the best price" for the creditors of the operations company.

"People have expressed interest in the past," he said, "but I would like there to be a proper marketing process and can't comment further."

Asked whether Teixeira will be able to bid for the assets, Bramston stated only that they will go to the highest bidder. Teixeira has repeatedly stated that he intends to relaunch the series, most likely with a one-off race early this year before a full season over the winter of 2010-11.

The assets for sale include all the jigs and molds needed to manufacturer the cars, seven spare Ferrari V8 engines and assorted chassis parts. The ownership of 10 Lola chassis used during the series' first three years is still subject to court proceedings.

A1GP Operations went into liquidation in the summer with debts of nearly £100 million ($162 million), which included £80 million ($129 million) owed to A1GP Holdings. It was subsequently moved into administration as a precursor to a sale.


So Teixeira has lost the asset of 25 race cars, wonder how the High Courts decision will influence the supposed Campos partnership?
highdownforce
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 28 2010, 17:56) *
So Teixeira has lost the asset of 25 race cars, wonder how the High Courts decision will influence the supposed Campos partnership?

QUOTE
Asked whether Teixeira will be able to bid for the assets, Bramston stated only that they will go to the highest bidder. Teixeira has repeatedly stated that he intends to relaunch the series, most likely with a one-off race early this year before a full season over the winter of 2010-11.

That's the problem.
THE "driverider"
QUOTE (highdownforce @ Jan 28 2010, 16:55) *
WTF? Really, this is getting ridiculous.

That is fantastic if it happens, motorsport is a sport which all people not matter of their gender, age, ethnicity, social class, or any disabilities they might have.
DFV
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 28 2010, 22:03) *
That is fantastic if it happens, motorsport is a sport which all people not matter of their gender, age, ethnicity, social class, or any disabilities they might have.


While I agree with most of your points, I would like to say that some physical and/or mental disabilities still will disqualify you from getting a Superlicense. After all you wouldn't get a regular driving license either, so a Superlicense should probably be a tad more difficult...
Gilles4Ever
Please take the Texeira/A1GP discussion to the A1GP Thread, the Texeira/Campos stories and discussion are for this thread.

Thanks
brabham bt50

http://twitter.com/stephanesamson

A reliable source tells me that Tony Texeira has bought 100% of Campos Meta1 today. StefanGP gets closer to a 2010 grid slot, I think...
noikeee
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 28 2010, 21:03) *
That is fantastic if it happens, motorsport is a sport which all people not matter of their gender, age, ethnicity, social class, or any disabilities they might have.


Absolutely - which is exactly why someone who was a backmarker in Spanish F3, Formula Palmer Audi and Superleague Formula, shouldn't get a seat just on the basis of her gender.
dank
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Jan 28 2010, 21:31) *
http://twitter.com/stephanesamson

A reliable source tells me that Tony Texeira has bought 100% of Campos Meta1 today. StefanGP gets closer to a 2010 grid slot, I think...


Who is Stephane Samson when he's at home?
Bouncing Pink Ball
QUOTE (THE @ Jan 28 2010, 17:03) *
That is fantastic if it happens, motorsport is a sport which all people not matter of their gender, age, ethnicity, social class, or any disabilities they might have.


Yes, if that person has demonstrated the ability to deserve a seat. Girls (or any other underrepresented group) on merit, please.

I'm starting to think Campos may not make the grid. Shame. I really thought all the new teams would be there, despite all the naysaying around here. frown.gif


Talryyn
QUOTE (Bouncing Pink Ball @ Jan 28 2010, 16:10) *
Yes, if that person has demonstrated the ability to deserve a seat. Girls (or any other underrepresented group) on merit, please.

I'm starting to think Campos may not make the grid. Shame. I really thought all the new teams would be there, despite all the naysaying around here. frown.gif


I really wanted to see what Bruno could do with the Dallara, this is upsetting for sure. Push comes to shove USF1 can pick Senna up and the cars! lol.gif
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 29 2010, 06:56) *
So Teixeira has lost the asset of 25 race cars, wonder how the High Courts decision will influence the supposed Campos partnership?

If Teixeria doesn't own A1 anymore, it makes it easier for him to buy into Campos. Bernie Ecclestone has said he'll block any move by Texieria to get into Formula 1 until his A1 debts are paid. But since Texieria does not own A1, he no longer owns their debts. It could be that his plan is to use the Campos team as a platofrm to re-start the series by basing the re-imagined A1GP around Campos.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Jan 29 2010, 00:14) *
If Teixeria doesn't own A1 anymore, it makes it easier for him to buy into Campos. Bernie Ecclestone has said he'll block any move by Texieria to get into Formula 1 until his A1 debts are paid. But since Texieria does not own A1, he no longer owns their debts. It could be that his plan is to use the Campos team as a platofrm to re-start the series by basing the re-imagined A1GP around Campos.


I'm not sure it's as simple at that... did you read the pitpass link I posted earlier?

Teixeira could well be personally linked to the money owed... in fact it would be quite a special scheme if he wasn't..

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=39824
DFV
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jan 29 2010, 06:23) *
I'm not sure it's as simple at that... did you read the pitpass link I posted earlier?

Teixeira could well be personally linked to the money owed... in fact it would be quite a special scheme if he wasn't..

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_new...es_art_id=39824


If I was Campos I would probably steer clear of Teixeira if i wanted to receive any money from selling the team. If this represents Teixeira's business ethics I can also understand why Ecclestone is a bit cautious...
brabham bt50
QUOTE (dank @ Jan 28 2010, 23:05) *
Who is Stephane Samson when he's at home?


Journalist of French Newspaper "Le Parisien"
loki
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jan 29 2010, 06:23) *
I'm not sure it's as simple at that... did you read the pitpass link I posted earlier?

Teixeira could well be personally linked to the money owed... in fact it would be quite a special scheme if he wasn't..


According to the link he's listed as one of the judgment debtors. It appears they got a default judgment and in the US if he's protected via a corporate entity he would be shielded from collection unless there was some sort of criminal malfeasance, wrongdoing, etc or unless he personally (not through his corporation) guaranteed the debt. Getting a judgment is one thing. Collecting on it is another.

As for Stephan do they even own a 2010 spec car or IP for a car? I thought that Toyota was a 2009 spec. At this stage they would have to buy the IP for the car from Campos, pay Dallara for it and get enough crew and equipment to make Bahrain. In Cup you can put a two car team together in a couple of weeks because there is no constructor rule.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (loki @ Jan 29 2010, 12:52) *
According to the link he's listed as one of the judgment debtors. It appears they got a default judgment and in the US if he's protected via a corporate entity he would be shielded from collection unless there was some sort of criminal malfeasance, wrongdoing, etc or unless he personally (not through his corporation) guaranteed the debt. Getting a judgment is one thing. Collecting on it is another.


I don't care about the technicalities. Teixeira seems to be screwing racers and race fans alike... That Campos isn't actively distancing himself, his team and F1 from that smelling turd is worrisome (to me).

QUOTE (loki @ Jan 29 2010, 12:52) *
As for Stephan do they even own a 2010 spec car or IP for a car? I thought that Toyota was a 2009 spec. At this stage they would have to buy the IP for the car from Campos, pay Dallara for it and get enough crew and equipment to make Bahrain. In Cup you can put a two car team together in a couple of weeks because there is no constructor rule.


StephanGP has the car that Toyota were designing for 2010. Apparently he doesn't need the Dallara.. I'm not sure he would need anything from Campos apart from their place on the grid.. (which sounds incredible to me, but increasingly looks to be the case!)

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/81126
intothepits
So will Stefan pick up Bruno if Campos doesn't make it?
Sausage
QUOTE (DFV @ Jan 29 2010, 09:56) *
If I was Campos I would probably steer clear of Teixeira if i wanted to receive any money from selling the team. If this represents Teixeira's business ethics I can also understand why Ecclestone is a bit cautious...


Besides that he is a man who has been accused of trading blood diamonds, managing criminal networks and mercenary groups, supporting his son in law who is currently locked up in The Hague for warcrimes trial etc. etc. I'd be more than a bit cautious smoking.gif
MadYarpen
somebody said F1 needs more colourful characters. Scary.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (intothepits @ Jan 29 2010, 13:58) *
So will Stefan pick up Bruno if Campos doesn't make it?


Stephan isn't automatically in if Campos doesn't make it.. the FIA can't give Stephan an entry just like that, and after the entry-procedure court thing StephanGP attempted, they would probably be the last to get one if they could..

IMO the whole thing stinks to no end.. it's a weird mixture of crooks, desperation, aspiration and power-madness.. with the FIA, Ecclestone, Teixeira, Stefanovic, Campos, all the other team bosses, etc..

Might just add up to nothing at all, and 12 teams total in Bahrain.. if the other new ones make it..

Personally, I hope Campos makes it alone or with some other 'investors' than Teixeira.
gio66
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jan 29 2010, 20:16) *
Personally, I hope Campos makes it alone or with some other 'investors' than Teixeira.


I totally agree.

Sure, F1 is not a boarders school but I think that everything has a limit.
Maybe ...
The Ragged Edge
QUOTE (Sausage @ Jan 29 2010, 19:11) *
Besides that he is a man who has been accused of trading blood diamonds, managing criminal networks and mercenary groups, supporting his son in law who is currently locked up in The Hague for warcrimes trial etc. etc. I'd be more than a bit cautious smoking.gif


If Stefan GP got a place on the grid, it would prove F1 has no morals. Zoran Stefanovic is the Sebian version of Tony Buckingham. They are cut from the same cloth and have the same connections. IE; Simon Mann, Adnan Khashoggi, Tim Spicer, Victor Bout and Eli Calil just to name a few. Well connected and dangerous men.
Youichi

Vitaly Petrov's faceboook page contains a link to the Campos Meta teams page.....

http://www.facebook.com/vitaly.petrov1?ref=sgm

pikamoku
from AS:
Teixeira owns 100% Campos-Meta but Adrian Campos still onboard. This monday he has a difficult task in Paris to explain how the teams plans are going ahead.

using google services:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=es&tl=en

where writes Fields-Goal means Campos-Meta roflmao.gif
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (pikamoku @ Jan 30 2010, 18:02) *
from AS:
Teixeira owns 100% Campos-Meta but Adrian Campos still onboard. This monday he has a difficult task in Paris to explain how the teams plans are going ahead.

I can see it now:

"So ... we've got ten million dollars each from Mr. Y. A. Kuza of Tokyo, Mr. Vory V'zakone of Moscow and Mr. Costanora of Sicily ..."
Showty
Ecclestone doesn´t want Teixeira on F1, Ecclestone wants this Stefan guy on F1, monday´s outcome looks pretty clear...

What it´s curious is that Ecclestone decided in favor of Campos and against Epsilon (Villadelprat) because of Campos was more on his side and also was about to use the Cossworth engines and Villadelprat already had talks with Ferrari for the engine and was really close to LdM.

I guess this is the way F1 works these days.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Showty @ Jan 31 2010, 02:16) *
Ecclestone doesn´t want Teixeira on F1, Ecclestone wants this Stefan guy on F1, monday´s outcome looks pretty clear...

Yeah, because Teixeira has massive debts from A1GP. He managed the sport so poorly that he pretty much started running it into the ground as soon as he took control of it, and he intends to use the team to promote the series. If you were Ecclestone, the man who controlled the commercial rights to the sport, would you want someone coming along, buying into a team and then using it - and by proxy of that, the sport - to promote a rival open-wheel series?
Talryyn
So is this Monday thing for all new teams, or just Campos? And if I were USF1 I would be all over Bruno Senna right now, especially considering how much Peter Windsor likes him.
William Hunt
If I as a team boss with a lock of cash flow I would be all over drivers that have the biggest sponsor budget and that are still decent drivers. After all: with debts or money problems you can't compete in F1 or at least not long. If Maldonado does have a lot of money it's a no brainer who I would choose.
Captain Tightpants
QUOTE (Talryyn @ Jan 31 2010, 09:51) *
So is this Monday thing for all new teams, or just Campos?

Just Campos.

QUOTE (William Hunt @ Jan 31 2010, 10:10) *
If I as a team boss with a lock of cash flow I would be all over drivers that have the biggest sponsor budget and that are still decent drivers. After all: with debts or money problems you can't compete in F1 or at least not long. If Maldonado does have a lot of money it's a no brainer who I would choose.

There's just representative of Campos' inability.
Hole
21 hours ago, AS reported that Campos has sold all his team to Texeira... But I still haven't seen anything in the international press, at least for now... Am I missing something?
http://www.as.com/motor/articulo/formula-a...dasdaimot_5/Tes


EDIT: News from few minutes ago.
http://www.laverdad.es/murcia/20100131/dep...a-20100131.html

QUOTE
«Lo que se está hablando de la venta de la escudería no es cierto. Estoy en Italia en medio de una reunión y no puedo decir más», fueron las palabras de Carabante.


"What it's being said about the sale of our team is not true. I'm in Italy in a meeting and I cannot say anything more".
Slowinfastout
Teixeira couldn't even foot the bill and bring his existing series to an existing planned event of his own damned series... what possible use would he be to Campos as far as actually paying bills?
brabham bt50
The latest from ( Autosport.com journalist ) Dieter Rencken on Campos-Stefan GP

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en
Wouter
QUOTE (brabham bt50 @ Jan 31 2010, 17:09) *
The latest from ( Autosport.com journalist ) Dieter Rencken on Campos-Stefan GP

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y...sl=de&tl=en

Hmm. We may yet see Ralf Schumacher return in F1, then. Doesn't look too good for Campos.
Showty
QUOTE (Captain Tightpants @ Jan 30 2010, 23:49) *
Yeah, because Teixeira has massive debts from A1GP. He managed the sport so poorly that he pretty much started running it into the ground as soon as he took control of it, and he intends to use the team to promote the series. If you were Ecclestone, the man who controlled the commercial rights to the sport, would you want someone coming along, buying into a team and then using it - and by proxy of that, the sport - to promote a rival open-wheel series?


I just wanted to point at the fact that Campos got its place mainly because of the politicals and now they could lose it mainly because of the politicals.

This is by no means serious.

It that Teixeira guy brings the money to ensure Campos is on F1 then the FIA has to accept it, it´s their mess in the very first place, what were the FIA looking at when the different projects of new teams were showed to them?
TheF1PERSON
QUOTE (Talryyn @ Jan 29 2010, 04:20) *
I really wanted to see what Bruno could do with the Dallara, this is upsetting for sure. Push comes to shove USF1 can pick Senna up and the cars! lol.gif


When Senna was negociating, he said he was not talking to USF1.
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