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Slowinfastout
Just as it was the case a little over a year ago, Max with his latest antics is clearly spinning things to make everyone believe that the whole FIA is threatened, while in fact most people would recognise that the main problem is the exclusive behavior of the FIA's President.

Just as with Spankgate last year, Max is marketing the 'threat' as an attack on the FIA, and not on his individual person and behavior.. amazingly it seems he is again using this false premise to seek re-election.

Mosley part 10... I thought we were finally done with this scheme, but since it is shaping up like we will hear alot about Mosley, it might be a good idea not to plaster the board with countless Mosley threads.. rolleyes.gif
Henrytheeigth
He is like a bad smell, or a mosquitto, never goes away lol. But at least this season has been interesting and kind of funny in a sick way coz of him. Well over the last few years I guess it has all seemed like a bad joke...
Andy35
I voted yes just because as he goes completely insane from 3rd stage syphilis caught from hookers it will give me even more to write about whilst still someone defends him even as nobody else does. It will be amusing. Considering the 20 000 posts on the Mosley 1-9 threads and where even the Mosley 7 have given up defending him a long time ago it still is fun to watch a new person pop up who is as mad as max and wants to defend his integrity.

Fantastic! Bring it on.

Regards
President Mugabe of Zimbabwe
sorry, I meant Andy


VicR
He has been elected once and re-elected three times. When he was re-elected the second time he put a clause in that it shouldn't be possible to be re-elected three times. Since that time he has been re-elected three times. By his own rules, he can't candidate in October. That's something people often forget. He would have to remove that clause but the question is, on what grounds?

There should be a third option in the poll, 'no he can't'. Not without changing his own rules.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (VicR @ Jun 26 2009, 15:12) *
He has been elected once and re-elected three times. When he was re-elected the second time he put a clause in that it shouldn't be possible to be re-elected three times. Since that time he has been re-elected three times. By his own rules, he can't candidate in October. That's something people often forget. He would have to remove that clause but the question is, on what grounds?

There should be a third option in the poll, 'no he can't'. Not without changing his own rules.


No, if he was to be elected in October he would be on his second term since the two-term rule was introduced, look it up...

http://www.fia.com/en-GB/the-fia/statutes/.../Article19.aspx
MattPete
Mosley warns FIA of 'difficult period' ahead

Jesus H. Christ, why won't Max just go away and stop being a pest?
MaxScelerate
QUOTE (MattPete @ Jun 26 2009, 15:38) *
Jesus H. Christ, why won't Max just go away and stop being a pest?

Oh how I wonder!

....perhaps if there weren't a bazillion fans pushing over a gazillion journo's to run after him and ask, ask, ask we'd hear less, less and less of Max?
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (MaxScelerate @ Jun 26 2009, 15:43) *
Oh how I wonder!

....perhaps if there weren't a bazillion fans pushing over a gazillion journo's to run after him and ask, ask, ask we'd hear less, less and less of Max?


Well, as far as the latest twist is concerned, it is Mosley who has leaked his letter to di Montezemolo to the press to ensure that the chaos and the confusion remains at the forefront... since it was about breaking the peace and the agreement reached not 24hrs earlier, it would have been strange for the press to ignore it.
Motormedia
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jun 26 2009, 20:48) *
Well, as far as the latest twist is concerned, it is Mosley who has leaked his letter to di Montezemolo to the press to ensure that the chaos and the confusion remains at the forefront... since it was about breaking the peace and the agreement reached not 24hrs earlier, it would have been strange for the press to ignore it.


Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.
klover
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 19:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.

Do you for a second believe that had Montezemolo apologized your idol wouldn't have come up with another excuse to break his word again and again and again...
Motormedia
QUOTE (klover @ Jun 26 2009, 20:57) *
Do you for a second believe that had Montezemolo apologized your idol wouldn't have come up with another excuse to break his word again and again and again...


Stop worrying so much about my preferences and start worrying about in what way FOTA could have avoided this mess after the agreement. If FOTA wants to "win" this conflict, the need to do right, not create problems for themselves because they underestimate or fail to read Mosley.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 15:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.


Apologised for what?

Nothing in Mosley's letter was shown to be a deal breaker.. the perception carried in the media from the various FOTA statements Max is unhappy with is a ridiculous reason to break the agreement, especially when the real-world practical implications of the statements are considered.

Instead of writing to di Montezemolo and leaking his childish letter to the press, Max should have settled the score and directly address and correct whatever statements FOTA has made that he believes to be incorrect.

By going for the latter option, by directly settling the score, Max would have given the impression that he is reinforcing the deal instead of breaking it.. it's therefore totally transparent he's not happy with what was agreed, and looking at ways to look back at it again with the fake renewal of his involvement being still needed as an added 'bonus'.

Again, it's quite transparent.
giacomo
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 21:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.


Its really foolish to argue that the actions of anyone else could have prevented the trademark chaos Mosley is used to raise around himself.
DLaw
I think Max should try to get a pen pal.....that's all he does nowadays, writes letters.

I know is lonely at night when the world think that you are a twat, even your BFF Bernie is not returning your calls.
DLaw
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 12:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.



I think Max is on Luca's "ignore" list, email never got through.
DOHC
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 21:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.


Come on... So Mosley had "no choice?" Mosley had no responsibility to make things right?

Quite on the contrary: Mosley has been given numerous chances to STFU and make sure that F1 is a pleasant, entertaining, interesting and exciting sport, attractive for investors, fans and media alike, with clear rules, simple rulings, clean sportsmanship and reliable interpretations. He's failed on every account.

You can't have leaders who think that their job is to thwart enemies within, but that's what Mosley is all about. It's a long time since he had anything at all to contribute. He's using F1 to fight for his own prestige and influence, but doesn't know what to do with either one. It's hard to imagine worse leadership.
Madras
QUOTE (DLaw @ Jun 26 2009, 21:23) *
I think Max is on Luca's "ignore" list, email never got through.


I wouldnt be surprised if he just sent a succinct "F*** off c***face" in reply.
Brawn BGP 001
Am I missing something here, but why is this a part ten thread what were the other 9 about?
Nonesuch
QUOTE (Brawn BGP 001 @ Jun 26 2009, 23:00) *
Am I missing something here, but why is this a part ten thread what were the other 9 about?

The series, if you will, was started after his personal life became a topic of discussion.

You can find them all here.
Slowinfastout
QUOTE (Nonesuch @ Jun 26 2009, 17:03) *
The series, if you will, was started after his personal life became a topic of discussion.

You can find them all here.


Let's be careful here, Max first reaction was to call for an Extraordinary Grand Assembly, so it was not only about his personal life but about his personal sex life being carried over at the very center of the FIA by Max himself.

It's an extremely important distinction to make, and BTW Max still hasn't established the link with motorsport that justified this action (by action I mean bringing Spankgate to the FIA instead of away from it)
Nonesuch
Fair enough Slowinfastout, that does indeed seem to be a relevant point. smile.gif
DOHC
QUOTE (Brawn BGP 001 @ Jun 26 2009, 23:00) *
Am I missing something here, but why is this a part ten thread what were the other 9 about?


Nothing of importance, just some 20,000 posts or so (seriously! rolleyes.gif ), plus, as a free bonus, an introduction to the joys of BDSM practices. That is, typical FIA issues.
donskar
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 27 2009, 04:03) *
Stop worrying so much about my preferences and start worrying about in what way FOTA could have avoided this mess after the agreement. If FOTA wants to "win" this conflict, the need to do right, not create problems for themselves because they underestimate or fail to read Mosley.


Be fair. Didn't Mosley call FOTA members "loonies"?

Given his published indiscretions, Max should be VERY careful about throwing stones. He lives in a very fragile glass house surrounded by heaps of gravel.
HoldenRT
QUOTE (Brawn BGP 001 @ Jun 26 2009, 21:00) *
Am I missing something here, but why is this a part ten thread what were the other 9 about?

There goes your credability for anything you say related to Max.
Motormedia
QUOTE (donskar @ Jun 26 2009, 21:30) *
Be fair. Didn't Mosley call FOTA members "loonies"?

Given his published indiscretions, Max should be VERY careful about throwing stones. He lives in a very fragile glass house surrounded by heaps of gravel.


If FOTA are more interested in getting even with Mosley with regards to insults, than to minimise negative media, then, I'm afraid, friends of motorsport and F1 in particular are gonna be very dissapointed in what's coming.
Brawn BGP 001
QUOTE (HoldenRT @ Jun 26 2009, 22:35) *
There goes your credability for anything you say related to Max.

Care to explain..?
Josta
QUOTE (Brawn BGP 001 @ Jun 26 2009, 22:00) *
Am I missing something here, but why is this a part ten thread what were the other 9 about?


Mosley.
klover
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 21:03) *
Stop worrying so much about my preferences and start worrying about in what way FOTA could have avoided this mess after the agreement. If FOTA wants to "win" this conflict, the need to do right, not create problems for themselves because they underestimate or fail to read Mosley.

Stop worrying so much about FOTA and look up to the guy you defend. He stirs up most if not all of the conflicts. It is in his intrusive nature, he thrives on conflict. Do not paint him as an innocent bystander who is on the receiving end of verbal and other abuse, in fact he is at the forefront of dishing it out.
jonpollak
Max,
Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out...
Unless you've paid for it to do so.
Jp
Boing 2
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 21:03) *
Stop worrying so much about my preferences and start worrying about in what way FOTA could have avoided this mess after the agreement. If FOTA wants to "win" this conflict, the need to do right, not create problems for themselves because they underestimate or fail to read Mosley.


a mosley apologist giving lectures on what's 'right'.......i'm off to check the dictionary, surely that's the definition of hypocrisy roflmao.gif
Boing 2
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 22:35) *
If FOTA are more interested in getting even with Mosley with regards to insults, than to minimise negative media, then, I'm afraid, friends of motorsport and F1 in particular are gonna be very dissapointed in what's coming.


how can we be disappointed? we've had nearly twenty years of Mosleys venom, bile, corruption and treachery. You could put a monkey in charge of the FIA and we'd call it a step forward.
Lazarus II
I think he should crawl back into the cave where his family came from wave.gif

BTW - It's always ~80-85% that want Max out.
OnyxF1
Should Mosley seek another term in office? No. I'll never forgive him for the numerous changes he made to the rules which killed overtaking. Worse is that he did it in defiance of the drivers' sentiments at the time and threatened to bring any driver who criticised his grooved tyres/narrow cars bollocks before the WMSC for "bringing the sport into disrepute".

I won't forgive him and his chum Bernie for killing Sportscar racing in the early 90s either.
DLaw
10 people here voted for Max to run for another term.
wave.gif

Hey, it takes all kind.
Muz Bee
Mosley - another 3 years?

Jackie Stewart a certified half-wit
Ron Dennie - not the sharpest knife
FOTA - loonies
$100 million fine
Grooved tyres
2.4 litre V8s
Don't get me started! mad.gif

GTFO wave.gif
Aubwi
People love to hate Max, and the latest round of brinksmanship seems to have really rattled a lot of the fans. But I was never all that concerned. Both sides had too much at stake in keeping F1 intact. And now it seems we are set to have cars with no TC and no refuelling, just like I wanted. I KNOW Max is a huge asshole, but somehow I keep picturing F1 falling to pieces once he's gone. He may serve as some kind of unifying, stablising force with all his awesomely tenacious prickishness.
senna da silva
QUOTE (Aubwi @ Jun 27 2009, 01:29) *
People love to hate Max, and the latest round of brinksmanship seems to have really rattled a lot of the fans. But I was never all that concerned. Both sides had too much at stake in keeping F1 intact. And now it seems we are set to have cars with no TC and no refuelling, just like I wanted. I KNOW Max is a huge asshole, but somehow I keep picturing F1 falling to pieces once he's gone. He may serve as some kind of unifying, stablising force with all his awesomely tenacious prickishness.


You could be right,I might be crazy, But Max should Shut the F#ck up and get on with his job if he actually serves a purpose!
Muz Bee
QUOTE (Aubwi @ Jun 27 2009, 02:29) *
And now it seems we are set to have cars with no TC and no refuelling, just like I wanted.

And NO FIA championship to race in unless Max gets his arse licked. mad.gif
How would it be possible for Max to come out looking worse than he does now. If the teams say "breach of deal, we're leaving" all Mosley will have left is a trail of broken deals, broken promises, and flipflops to contemplate, along with the title "the man who destroyed F1". And he's such a maggot he wouldn't even care IMO.

Good businesses are built on relationships of trust, not smart-arse trickery and stupid, schoolyard name-calling and baby-whining. He is beneath contempt.
fanboy
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 20:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.



Mosley's job is to look after the interests of the sport, yet hes now putting personal issues ahead of the sport and threatening to break the deal because of media statements. Why am i even replying to a fantatical troll like you who only exists here to defend his fascist idol.
cheapracer
I am so effin tired of seeing Mosley this Mosley that in this forum.
wide-front-wing
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 20:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.



You have got to be kidding me. rolleyes.gif
Muz Bee
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 20:55) *
Well, if Montezemolo had apologised (to me - EDIT) and put things right he would have ensured that there had been no chaos. His choice, really.

(My edit - does that sound right?)

Small wonder some believe Max is with us on the BB.
Slowinfastout
Here's FOTA at work... you be the judge.

QUOTE
Bologna – 25 June 2009



FOTA PRESS CONFERENCE - TRANSCRIPT



Luca di Montezemolo: All of us have been really surprised by the enthusiasm that we have received from spectators, fans, in the FOTA side, the team side, the web side and in the press side from the public.

I don’t want to say anything because I have already spoken in Paris, but I like that all FOTA members starting from John Howett, vice-chairman, can say something to you and be ready to answer all your questions. As I said yesterday, I want to thank in a very deep way all the FOTA members, because they have been able to work together and today after less than one year, FOTA is an important association that has done a lot of work for the sport, for F1 – starting from important cost reductions.

John Howett: I think from my side on behalf of all our members, I express our appreciation to our chairman who has taken a very active and positive role in the organisation and performance of FOTA, and I think has ensured the unity among the members. This has ultimately resulted in a victory for Formula 1. There should be no victor from either side, and now I think we have the possibility of a very stable, sustainable platform that will enable us to continue F1 with the best drivers, the best cars and the best circuits in the world. That is from my side all I would like to say.

Flavio Briatore: Absolutely I share the feelings of our chairman and John. What we achieved yesterday was very positive for the FIA, it was very positive for F1, it is very positive for us. We have been working together with FOTA in the last year, and a lot has happened.

What we want is a Formula 1, and we achieved what we want – an F1 with the best drivers, with the best teams and we want to work to have a better show, entertaining better the people. We want to make sure the fans are with us, and make sure the fans are enjoying the fight between drivers. In the last six or seven months there was a lot of talk about politics and costs, and I don’t believe this is the subject the fans like. The fans like a show, they like a race, and we need to talk about sport again. We are happy to achieve this situation, we are happy to work for that.

After many years with the presidency of Max Mosley, we want to say good luck for the retirement. Sometimes we are in different positions, and sometimes we have different opinion, but the common sense yesterday was winning – and thank you to Luca too to negotiate. At this point we are looking for the future, and we are very close as well for an agreement on the commercial side, there are a few issues, but I hope in a few days we have an agreement for F1. I want to thank you for supporting us, I think is very different for the F1 and media supporting us.

Martin Whitmarsh: Okay just to add to what has already been said, I think in the years I've been involved in Formula 1 I haven't witnessed before the co-operation between the teams. There have been occasions in the history of Formula 1 when perhaps we haven't spent enough time on the governance of our sport. We haven't spent enough time co-operating to improve and build our sport and I see in the last few months, fantastic efforts through challenging times by all of the teams represented here and I think that is a very positive way in which we can go forward within our sport.


We have concentrated, as Flavio said, on too many negative issues in the last few months. I think there is a clear commitment from all of the teams here to work now on the show and the entertainment, on making sure we reflect the wishes of the fans who support us now – I think we can make the sport better. And I hope that we yesterday reached a historic point for Formula 1, enabling perhaps to look outwards rather than continually looking in at the inner workings of our sport. It is an exciting moment for our sport and one that can only build it to be bigger and better.

Mario Theissen: Not much to add. I really thank Luca and John for the big effort they have put in. I think it has been a very, very strong year for all the teams, for the co-operation. It was really exceptional to be part of this process and yesterday in my view we have reached a breakthrough situation in the way that we have now a clear view of the future of the sport. It is a fantastic day for the sport, for the fans and definitely for us as teams as well. We have a clear view for the format of the series for the future and I think this is a very strong foundation now to come to an agreement and a conclusion on the commercial side as well. Which we will follow in the coming months.


Christian Horner: I would just like to re-endorse what has been achieved especially under the chairmanship of Luca di Montezemolo whose represented FOTA so positively. I sit here with a duty of care not just to the fans but to our employees as well and I think that with what has taken place over the last 24 hours with the solutions that have been reached I think it is very, very positive for Formula 1. As Martin says we can now focus on the fans, on creating a better show, on creating an even better sport and I think that F1 this year the championship on-track has been a strong championship. Hopefully now focus can be turned back to the circuit and the important factor of going racing. It was great day for Formula 1.

Stefano Domenicali: For sure it is important that F1 will stay as a real F1, that was one of our priorities for the future. For sure we as a FOTA we will welcome the new teams that are coming to F1, but of course it is important to make sure that the value of this formula is to make sure that these companies are able top F1 not only for one year but also for the future. And this will give another input to this championship. We need to make sure the new ones, who are very welcome, are really part of this business, not because we need to have new in terms of numbers, but new in terms of fresh blood into the championship. This is a very important point that we need to make sure of for the benefit of what we have achieved in these last days.


Nick Fry: Brawn GP, for a small private team stability is absolutely critical and from Ross and myself we are really pleased that the achievements of yesterday really do pave the way for a very bright future for Formula 1. I’d also like to take this opportunity to thank all of our competitors. It’s very clear that without the support of Luca and Ferrari, without the support of Mercedes, without the support of McLaren we probably wouldn’t be here today. It’s difficult to exaggerate the unity that you see in front of you. We’ve all stuck together, Brawn GP has been supported very strongly by all of our competitors and I’m very proud of that and we’re proud to be here among this group so we’re looking forward very much to a good future for Formula 1.


Franz Tost: When FOTA was established there were a lot of issues on the table from the commercial side, from the governance and from the regulation side. Thanks to the chairman Luca di Montezemolo to the vice chairman John Howett and also Flavio Briatore we could sort out all of these issues from the commercial side as well as from the governance and that we also have stabilised regulations for the championship is quite important especially for a team like Toro Rosso. But from this, FOTA pushed very hard to come down with the costs which also helps a lot a team like Toro Rosso from the engines, from the gearbox and also from the aerodynamic side. I think that now we can concentrate on racing and we can concentrate to increase the show and come up with a good one.

Luca di Montezemolo: If there are some questions, we are pleased to answer them. Let me just summarise, because what is coming out from all of the colleagues around this table the very good team spirit inside FOTA. It’s a big collaboration, everybody has worked a lot over the last two weeks, particularly John and Flavio have done a fantastic job and I’m happy that all of the other members recognise this. So thank you very very much. I would like also to call your attention to the coherence of FOTA. We said since the beginning that we were looking for some priority points and I want to thank the FIA World Motor Sport Council for the very positive meeting yesterday and the very constructive attitude towards the interests of F1. We will keep the 2009 rules the same for everybody - this is extremely important. We will have stability in F1 at least until the end of 2012. It means no cost, because with stability you have no cost. We also have governance like in the previous years in which the rules come from clear procedure with the F1 Commission. And we will continue as teams, as car manufacturers, to work for important cost reductions as we have already done with success regarding engines and gearboxes. Flavio will also be working with the commercial rights holder to improve the show and the interest in the sport. I’m confident we can find a solution with CVC in the next days – CVC is the company that owns the rights of F1. So our role is in two years, by the end of 2011, to achieve a cost basically like in the 1990s. It means that finally for small or big teams, it’s important to think of the balance between cost and the revenues at the end of 2011. We are united in the interests of the sport and I think that yesterday was a very positive and constructive agreement. Again, as my colleagues have said before, mainly for the spectators because the spectators were pissed off with the continued changing of the rules, it was difficult to understand. I have to say that after a month of confrontations we are also pleased to thank the president of the FIA for his decision to leave the FIA in October, to thank him for the work that he has done - particularly for safety because this was and still is a big priority in Formula 1 and the sport. Formula 1 has done a huge, huge improvement in safety.


We want to thank the FIA and the World Council for the unanimous agreement yesterday to approve and accept FOTA's proposals. Again, we hope to find an agreement in the next day with John Howett dealing together with Flavio Briatore.




Q. The objective of bringing F1 closer to the public and the fans has been talked about. How do you aim to achieve this within the existing framework with the FIA and the commercial rights holder?



Martin Whitmarsh: I think as you are aware, FOTA undertook a very interesting survey of fans trying to understand what they wanted. The initial work led us to some conclusions that were put before the FIA. Unfortunately, none of those suggestions and ideas, which we felt were positive, were accepted. We now have to continue that work. We have to be structured in the way that we speak to the audience, asking them what they expect from the sport, the format of the sport, how they understand it, how it's presented, how we provide information. We have to continue the work. There is no singular point; I think it is listening to what the audience wants and making sure that we respond to it to improve the show, the spectacle and the information that's provided.



Q. How will the new teams fit in with FOTA, and will Williams and Force India be allowed back in. These three new teams signed up under the old rules



John Howett: First of all I think we need to have some dialogue with these teams to establish whether they wish to join FOTA or not. FOTA is open, we believe dialogue is constructive and positive. Obviously before doing that there is the issue of reaching an understanding with them on their position, based on the new regulatory framework. It's too soon to say, but our door is open and I guess in the next two to three weeks, as the total situation is stabilised, we will enter into discussion with them should they wish to meet.


Q. Are the positions between FOTA and Mr Mosley now clear? Do you have an idea who can succeed Mr Mosley as president of the FIA?

John Howett: I believe yesterday the confirmation was given to the World Motorsport Council on what was agreed, and they endorsed entirely that. So from our side there should be no ambiguity at all. Secondly, the federation is an independent body with its own constitution, and it will be their business who they elect as the future successor to their president. From the teams point of view, we would like to see somebody who actually is independent, if you like, perhaps independent from any of us currently or historically. The federation covers much more than just motorsport, it is in fact involved in worldwide touring and I think also from the position of manufacturers they would wish to have somebody that was also able to represent appropriately the requirements of worldwide motorists, as well as purely focusing on sport.


Luca di Montezemolo: Just one personal point because yesterday I was not only representing Ferrari, but also all the Formula 1 teams at my first meeting of the World Council. I saw a very positive atmosphere, very constructive from all the members of the World Council. We have achieved a clear agreement, an agreement that is important to re-establish good, personal relations, and this is important looking ahead. This is something I want to emphasise.

The other thing is I was there also representing the car manufacturers. The meeting we had in Brussels with ACEA, under the chairmanship of Carlos Ghosn, the chairman of Renault, and with the chairman and CEO of all the car manufacturers - BMW, Ferrari, FIAT, Renault, Mercedes and Toyota - has been extremely useful because for the first time the top management of these companies have been directly involved in Formula 1. This is important for the future.

I want to say, one of the important agreements we achieved was an important commitment from manufacturers and big teams to race and continue to be in Formula One, at least until the end of 2012.

So in the past, if somebody was worried, maybe after Honda left or somebody else, not now. The car manufacturers and the big teams will remain in Formula 1, and this is the reason why yesterday's agreement is important for us to work together for a better future for F1. F1 needs fresh air, needs ideas, needs improvement, working together to achieve this goal.

Q: What are going to be the precise technical and sporting regulations for next year, for example will the medal system be in place or not?


Flavio Briatore: The 2010 regulations will be what we are racing with now in 2009, we go back to the 2009 regulations and the Formula 1 Commission of 1998.


I'm sorry but the predicted chaos just isn't there...

In fact, this is what is needed.. F*ck off Mosley.

It's as simple as that..
Lifew12
QUOTE (Motormedia @ Jun 26 2009, 21:03) *
Stop worrying so much about my preferences and start worrying about in what way FOTA could have avoided this mess after the agreement.


Why not think about the way Mosley could have avoided this mess?
One
QUOTE (Slowinfastout @ Jun 29 2009, 10:16) *
Here's FOTA at work... you be the judge.



I'm sorry but the predicted chaos just isn't there...

In fact, this is what is needed.. F*ck off Mosley.

It's as simple as that..



Honestly this Max Mosley and his behavior truly exhaust me. Please FIA let him stop doing whatever he is doing. Max Mosley is now pain to watch, pain to read pain to even think of him.
One
QUOTE (Lifew12 @ Jun 29 2009, 10:19) *
Why not think about the way Mosley could have avoided this mess?




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Agreed
skid solo
QUOTE (One @ Jun 29 2009, 11:12) *
Honestly this Max Mosley and his behavior truly exhaust me. Please FIA let him stop doing whatever he is doing. Max Mosley is now pain to watch, pain to read pain to even think of him.



My sentiments exactly. it's like listening to a whining child, he just needs to be put in a room by himself until he stops moaning and seeking attention by behaving badly. Piss off max wave.gif
HoldenRT
QUOTE (Brawn BGP 001 @ Jun 26 2009, 22:36) *
Care to explain..?

By your own admission, you are coming in at chapter 10, after having not seen the previous 9 chapters. It's like trying to write a book about WW2, if you know only about the Invasion of Berlin onwards. You missed the invasion of Poland, France, Battle of Britan, D-Day, liberation of France, Holland, Battle of the Bulge etc and that's just the Western Front. It's like walking into the theater when there is 15 mins left in the movie, and then try to argue about it with other film critics afterwards. You missed the bulk of the movie. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to have a "qualified" or "credible" opinion, it helps to have some background knowledge doesn't it? Especially if you are going to defend him. Mosley has been in power 16 years. I'm not saying everyone should know every little thing about those 16 years, but those 9 other chapters of Mosley topics, were all made in the last 12 months or so.
Andy35
QUOTE (HoldenRT @ Jun 29 2009, 22:32) *
By your own admission, you are coming in at chapter 10, after having not seen the previous 9 chapters. It's like trying to write a book about WW2, if you know only about the Invasion of Berlin onwards. You missed the invasion of Poland, France, Battle of Britan, D-Day, liberation of France, Holland, Battle of the Bulge etc and that's just the Western Front. It's like walking into the theater when there is 15 mins left in the movie, and then try to argue about it with other film critics afterwards. You missed the bulk of the movie. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but to have a "qualified" or "credible" opinion, it helps to have some background knowledge doesn't it? Especially if you are going to defend him. Mosley has been in power 16 years. I'm not saying everyone should know every little thing about those 16 years, but those 9 other chapters of Mosley topics, were all made in the last 12 months or so.


Exactly, none of the Mosley 7 are continuing to defend him. Even Kar and Gareth have buggered off when they have finally realised The News of the World is less of an enemy than Mr Mosley to fans of premier motor racing.

Any respecting President of an august body would have resigned last year, because Max didn't shows you not where justice lay but where Max's psychology lay. All the events since then have shown this time and time again. We had a lighthouse showing up Max's deficiencies last year, because people chose to cling to the garments of the great dictator just means they are now washed up on the beach.

So in summary of 10 Mosley threads

TOLD YOU SO.

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Regards
Andy




Orin
Part 10... hopefully this is the one where they bury him.

Right now Mosley looks out of options, even throwing a paddy didn't work as expected. Perhaps in a few short months he'll be retiring to his dungeon for good.
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